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Re: With 2009 draft ... and three picks 

Post#21 » by 4ho5ive » Mon Jan 19, 2009 6:37 pm

They arent moving Jeff Green if we arent moving Foye/Brew/Love. Same goes for Westbrook. They already have capspace and multiple picks. Though eventually i see Green as a versatile Gomes type that comes off the bench and gives great back up SF/PF minutes. They may not agree but he isnt an all star at the 4 and Durant needs to be at the 3.
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Re: With 2009 draft ... and three picks 

Post#22 » by revprodeji » Mon Jan 19, 2009 7:51 pm

that makes sense...I have concerns about greens ability to defend the wing but I like his skill set and bbiq as well as his demenior on court.

I would rather have marvin williams and holiday but we will see what happens. chances are we screw it up.
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Re: With 2009 draft ... and three picks 

Post#23 » by revprodeji » Mon Jan 19, 2009 8:08 pm

an ironic thing is that you could make an argument that holiday is similar to westbrook. w/o the crazy athletic ability and more bbiq but both are bigger pg with the great ucla defense.

green and summers are both georgetown 4/5 both have great frames and strength but do not rebound to their potential and lack the killer offensive instinct.

I am convinced summers could be good but I doubt he is much more than gomes.
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Re: With 2009 draft ... and three picks 

Post#24 » by 4ho5ive » Mon Jan 19, 2009 8:14 pm

Also, both Westbrook last year and Holiday this year spent the majority of time playing the 2 next to Collison and are projected as NBA PG's
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Re: With 2009 draft ... and three picks 

Post#25 » by Steve_Holiday » Tue Jan 20, 2009 12:15 am

does ur basketball mind really put brewer in the asset boat of booth? I think brewer is still a key part of our future. I would like to not move him. but it is good to know that your sense of talent and value is fundamentally lacking.


One could argue that considering Corey Brewer to be a key piece of the Timberwolves' future also shows a lack of talent and value gnawledge. What GM would want Brewer? Wouldn't the answer to that question put him in the same "asset boat" as Calvin Booth? Certainly no closer to Al, Randy, and Kevin than he is to Booth, I would suspect.

Even if Brewer has the potential to someday be a defender of Trenton Hassell caliber, he would still have to show the ability to hit an open shot once in a while. I would also argue that any player considered to be "untouchable" in a trade should be able to stay on the court for more than 20 minutes a game.

All of this notwithstanding the torn ACL. How do you think that will impact his ability to defend elite wing players in the future?
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Re: With 2009 draft ... and three picks 

Post#26 » by TheProdigy » Tue Jan 20, 2009 1:10 am

Steve_Holiday wrote:Even if Brewer has the potential to someday be a defender of Trenton Hassell caliber, he would still have to show the ability to hit an open shot once in a while.


Believe it or not, Brew was our best 3 point shooter this year before he got injured. All of his work with Hoiberg in the offseason paid off. I agree with you that he isn't untouchable, but then again I only consider about 10 players in the entire league untouchable.
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Re: With 2009 draft ... and three picks 

Post#27 » by Steve_Holiday » Tue Jan 20, 2009 3:04 am

Believe it or not, Brew was our best 3 point shooter this year before he got injured. All of his work with Hoiberg in the offseason paid off.


I know his stats. He made 5 out of 12 three-point shots. I don't consider that to be a representative sample of his shooting ability. He's 25% from behind the arc for his career. Once he takes 30 shots during the 2009-10 season, I'll be willing to reconsider my assessment.
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Re: With 2009 draft ... and three picks 

Post#28 » by 4ho5ive » Tue Jan 20, 2009 6:34 am

You're taking a sample of 1 year though, thats hardly a career. Isnt that also a misrepresentation of his shooting ability. FYI he only took 36 shots from beyond the arc last year, again, you cannot seriously consider that a true representation of his skils

Mike Miller is 3-22 from deep in January, is that indicative of his skills??
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Re: With 2009 draft ... and three picks 

Post#29 » by Worm Guts » Tue Jan 20, 2009 1:23 pm

4ho5ive wrote:You're taking a sample of 1 year though, thats hardly a career. Isnt that also a misrepresentation of his shooting ability. FYI he only took 36 shots from beyond the arc last year, again, you cannot seriously consider that a true representation of his skils


If you saw him shoot last year, it absolutely was a representation of his skills. He was a terrible shooter from almost everywhere.
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Re: With 2009 draft ... and three picks 

Post#30 » by Sephiroth » Tue Jan 20, 2009 8:37 pm

Draft Thabeet.

Trade McCants and Telfair for Barbosa - they can have the BOS pick or the 2 second rounders if they want.

The rest I don't care.
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Re: With 2009 draft ... and three picks 

Post#31 » by john2jer » Tue Jan 20, 2009 8:40 pm

Sephiroth wrote:Draft Thabeet.

Trade McCants and Telfair for Barbosa - they can have the BOS pick or the 2 second rounders if they want.

The rest I don't care.


Doesn't Barbosa kill Foye's development, though? I peronsally don't like Barbosa all that much, and don't think he'd be that great here.
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Re: With 2009 draft ... and three picks 

Post#32 » by karch34 » Tue Jan 20, 2009 8:57 pm

I don't think the front office will give up on Brewer too soon. My opinion is that if there's a deal that truly makes us better and he's a key piece to getting it done then you do it, but it all depends on the deal.

As far as who to draft it depends on who's available, where we actually draft, and what we do with our previous pick(s). Some of my scenarios:
# 1
Harden
Teague
Bigman (Vyacheslav Kravtsov)

# 2
Jennings/Holiday
Ogilvy
Ellington

#3
Mullens/Thabeet
DeRozen/Gerald Henderson
Collison/Lawson

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