Looking Back on Rick DiPietro's Contract

WEFFPIM · Post #1 » by **WEFFPIM** » Wed Jan 21, 2009 6:44 am

Contract was signed in 2006. 'Twas a 15-year, $67.5 million contract. In the two+ seasons he's played 140 games total, a GAA of about 3, 8 shutouts total, and the Islanders have a fantastic record of 87-97-26, and made the playoffs once in that span, squeaking into the 8th seed in '07. He's now done for this season after playing an astounding 5 games, the Islanders have the worst record in the league by far, and the franchise is desperate for money or they're moving to Kansas City.

Now, you can't put their financial woes on DiPietro's fragile shoulders, but that contract would sure look nice off the books right about now to a potential buyer. To summarize this thread, if there was anyone who was a fan of this signing when it happened, you still feel that way now?

sh00n · Post #2 » by **sh00n** » Wed Jan 21, 2009 7:15 am

I don't think anyone was a fan of it. They were stupid for offering it and they're morons now.

Post #3 » by **Celtics_Champs** » Wed Jan 21, 2009 3:26 pm

Yeah, didn't they sign Yashin to a big deal like that. He failed. It was pretty obvious this contract would fail as well. Too bad for Dipetro, no one is going to want a injury plagued goalie with a contract like that.

Post #4 » by **timd1218** » Wed Jan 21, 2009 4:09 pm

The contract fails now because he is injured. If he was playing like he was projected too, it would be a great contract.

I don't blame the Islanders for signing DiPietro to this contract. If everything panned out they way they hoped, the contract would have been a steal. He was their franchise player.

It would be like Montreal giving this deal to Price now and the same thing happens to him.

burn1down · Post #5 » by **burn1down** » Wed Jan 21, 2009 4:18 pm

timd1218 wrote:The contract fails now because he is injured. If he was playing like he was projected too, it would be a great contract.

I don't blame the Islanders for signing DiPietro to this contract. If everything panned out they way they hoped, the contract would have been a steal. He was their franchise player.

It would be like Montreal giving this deal to Price now and the same thing happens to him.

Thats true. If it was so bad, Vinny, Ovechkin. . .these guys wouldnt be getting 6+ years with contracts.

The problem is you gave it to a goalie (tenders get hurt more than players pretty often) and at the time, a very unproven one at that.

And to add comment to them making the playoffs that one year. . . correct me if i am wrong, but didnt Duby carry them into the playoffs the last couple of weeks and then played the series? I dont think Rick even had much to do with that

sh00n · Post #6 » by **sh00n** » Wed Jan 21, 2009 4:24 pm

timd1218 wrote:The contract fails now because he is injured. If he was playing like he was projected too, it would be a great contract.

I don't blame the Islanders for signing DiPietro to this contract. If everything panned out they way they hoped, the contract would have been a steal. He was their franchise player.

It would be like Montreal giving this deal to Price now and the same thing happens to him.

I don't even think I'd like Price getting a 15 year deal. That's way, way too long. Even Vinny's contract is too long for my liking.

WEFFPIM · Post #7 » by **WEFFPIM** » Wed Jan 21, 2009 6:38 pm

burn1down wrote:And to add comment to them making the playoffs that one year. . . correct me if i am wrong, but didnt Duby carry them into the playoffs the last couple of weeks and then played the series? I dont think Rick even had much to do with that

Yep, won on the final day of the season, and it's precisely my point.

Post #8 » by **ajaX82** » Thu Jan 22, 2009 4:00 am

Its not his fault that the team around him blows. That has to account for some of his crap stats. His injuries are unfortunate as well, but not really his fault.

Lets give him next season, if healthy, til we pass judgement.

Post #9 » by **Crowned** » Sat Jan 24, 2009 8:19 pm

6 or 7 years would've been appropriate for a goaltender. I don't care how good Dipietro is, 15 years is too extreme.

sh00n · Post #10 » by **sh00n** » Sun Jan 25, 2009 4:21 am

Crowned wrote:6 or 7 years would've been appropriate for a goaltender. I don't care how good Dipietro is, 15 years is too extreme.

Yep. Lifetime contracts are way too risky - I'd never like to see my team sign someone to a deal like that. Between 5-7 is fine, but anything over that is pushing it.

harding156 · Post #11 » by **harding156** » Sun Jan 25, 2009 10:59 pm

It was a bad contract any way you look at it. Too many things can happen in 15 years. Best case scenario would have been 15 great injury free seasons, which obviously didn't happen. Even if it had happened it still would have been a bad contract, but a bad contract that panned out. It's kind of like jumping out of a plane without a parachute. Even if you somehow survive, it was still a bad decision.

Post #12 » by **timd1218** » Wed Jan 28, 2009 6:39 pm

So, with the report saying Zetterberg is going to get a 10 year deal, and since some of you think the DiPietro deal is bad, do you feel the same with this?

sh00n · Post #13 » by **sh00n** » Wed Jan 28, 2009 6:52 pm

Yep. 10 is too long for a contract.

burn1down · Post #14 » by **burn1down** » Wed Jan 28, 2009 9:06 pm

Z getting 12 is crazy. He will be 40 when its over.
This is a guy who has gone (deep most times) into the playoffs, will be in olympics next year (and at least one more), and not a pansy, but certainly not known for toughness. 40?? Thats crazy.

I know people have been saying this for years, but we may finally start to see the fall of Det pretty soon.

sh00n · Post #15 » by **sh00n** » Wed Jan 28, 2009 9:54 pm

There's no way they can keep Johan and Hossa now. We all knew Hossa in Detroit was a single season thing, but they may lose Franzen now unless he takes a big pay cut.

burn1down · Post #16 » by **burn1down** » Wed Jan 28, 2009 10:27 pm

sh00n wrote:There's no way they can keep Johan and Hossa now. We all knew Hossa in Detroit was a single season thing, but they may lose Franzen now unless he takes a big pay cut.

Add to that they have to add a tender pretty quick. . . . with the cap staying where it is or moving down, i really dont know how good this will be for Det.

Who knows though. . .that Vanek contract was laughable, now it doesnt seem as unreasonable. . .especially in a market like Buffalo

Post #17 » by **timd1218** » Thu Jan 29, 2009 12:07 am

The cap hit on Zetterberg isn't bad. It's like $6.5 million a year. It will be bad in the last few seasons, but right now, it's good.

Hossa is gone and it was a one year deal. He wants a cup and signed with the team he thought has the best chance. They can still sign Franzen.

Post #18 » by **ajaX82** » Thu Jan 29, 2009 1:09 am

burn1down wrote:Z getting 12 is crazy. He will be 40 when its over.
This is a guy who has gone (deep most times) into the playoffs, will be in olympics next year (and at least one more), and not a pansy, but certainly not known for toughness. 40?? Thats crazy.

I know people have been saying this for years, but we may finally start to see the fall of Det pretty soon.

The downfall of the Wings? Sure guy, keep dreaming

We kept one of the best players in the world for the rest of his career. 12 is too long, no doubt, but hey, he is going nowhere. Of course Hossa was gone. Franzen will prolly be back. I don't understand why this move is our "downfall?"

burn1down · Post #19 » by **burn1down** » Thu Jan 29, 2009 4:30 pm

ajaX82 wrote:
burn1down wrote:Z getting 12 is crazy. He will be 40 when its over.
This is a guy who has gone (deep most times) into the playoffs, will be in olympics next year (and at least one more), and not a pansy, but certainly not known for toughness. 40?? Thats crazy.

I know people have been saying this for years, but we may finally start to see the fall of Det pretty soon.

The downfall of the Wings? Sure guy, keep dreaming

We kept one of the best players in the world for the rest of his career. 12 is too long, no doubt, but hey, he is going nowhere. Of course Hossa was gone. Franzen will prolly be back. I don't understand why this move is our "downfall?"

Z is not the downfall, the money and lenght is leading to it. They have done an amazing job of getting people to go there on the cheap. . .with the last few major contracts, that is not the case as much.
Like i said, they still have to get a goalie in the next year or two, Johan has to be signed, and you probably (probably!) arent going to get too many 1 year contracts out of top knotch players like Hossa too many times.

Its not a bad thing, there arent many teams in history who have been on top or near the top of thier leagues as much as Det. Its inevitable. Throw in there that the Wings are in a market that is arguably hurt the most by the economy, and things will tighten up a bit.

Post #20 » by **ajaX82** » Thu Jan 29, 2009 5:25 pm

burn1down wrote:
ajaX82 wrote:
burn1down wrote:Z getting 12 is crazy. He will be 40 when its over.
This is a guy who has gone (deep most times) into the playoffs, will be in olympics next year (and at least one more), and not a pansy, but certainly not known for toughness. 40?? Thats crazy.

I know people have been saying this for years, but we may finally start to see the fall of Det pretty soon.

The downfall of the Wings? Sure guy, keep dreaming

We kept one of the best players in the world for the rest of his career. 12 is too long, no doubt, but hey, he is going nowhere. Of course Hossa was gone. Franzen will prolly be back. I don't understand why this move is our "downfall?"

Z is not the downfall, the money and lenght is leading to it. They have done an amazing job of getting people to go there on the cheap. . .with the last few major contracts, that is not the case as much.
Like i said, they still have to get a goalie in the next year or two, Johan has to be signed, and you probably (probably!) arent going to get too many 1 year contracts out of top knotch players like Hossa too many times.

Its not a bad thing, there arent many teams in history who have been on top or near the top of thier leagues as much as Det. Its inevitable. Throw in there that the Wings are in a market that is arguably hurt the most by the economy, and things will tighten up a bit.

True enough

First off though, gaining Hossa has been great, but its not like losing him will kill us. Note we won the cup last year with virtually the same team and no Hossa.

We have a nice mix of young playmakers (Hudler, Filppula) who fit the system perfectly to go with our veterans. We have some young talent in the system for when Lidstrom retires (Kindl?) and some of our grinders (Maltby, Draper) go by the wayside (Abdelkader, who will fit the Grind Line role perfectly). We have Jimmy Howard down there as well hopefully to grab the goalie reigns.

Now yes Detroit is hurt by the economy, but this town has been hurt for a real, real long time. Mike Illitch has money and knows how to spend it wisely. We have been a powerhouse for 15 years now, and thats not by accident. This city knows how to win (hockey wise of course) and will continue to for years to come.