Nets thoughts on Mike Miller rumor

[WallyWorld]

I am having a hard time seeing your guys' side of this one.

Mike Miller for an expiring contract, a young guy with issues and what will be a late first rounder is perfectly fair value. What better could you do?

I think we could even get better value for Mike from other teams.

[Preludepunk27]

I am having a hard time seeing your guys' side of this one.

Mike Miller for an expiring contract, a young guy with issues and what will be a late first rounder is perfectly fair value. What better could you do?

I think we could even get better value for Mike from other teams.

The problem on your end is Mike is really underperforming this season compared to previous years. I don't think it's his fault, just that your system isn't really designed for a guy like him.

And I may be the one of the few ones on this board, but I agree that what you're asking for is fair value. Now, if the Nets want to sleep a little more soundly at night, they can put a top 15 restriction on the pick. This allows us to make the playoffs but if we're the 7 or 8 seed, we still have a shot at keeping out pick for 2009. What is a hard sell right now is mainly this pick though. The question here really is: Does adding Mike Miller for 2 years merit giving up a 1st round pick that will, depending on how he gets, between 10-16 in the draft? I can tell you after our draft last year and how happy everyone was, I can see why people are being stingy. I would be more inclined if you gave us Miami's 2nd round pick in this draft so we can take a shot on the best player who fell out of the 1st round.

I'm rambling though, I can definitely understand the argument that Swift/Young Guy/1st for Miller is overpaying, but I feel it's relatively fair value depending on the restrictions on the 1st rounder and who the young guy is. At this point if it's Swat or Ager, yeah I'm all for it, but if CDR or Anderson's names come up, I'm not happy with the 1st rounder inclusion.

[vincecarter4pres]

Yeah, I already made a response to this in the other thread, but to foot note it, Miller is worth an expiring and a young prospect and a 2nd rounder or GS pick, maybe our 09 HEAVILY protected.

IF Mr. Anderson or CDR becomes part of the equation say good bye to the pick.

[Winter Wonder]

I am pretty sure a number of MN fans agree with you in terms of value (swift, boone, pick), but I think Most MN fans are trying to determine if they think clearing cardinal or another contract with Miller is the better idea for MN than the prospects (the whole Wally + 1st deal for Miller / Cardinal). I don't think most believe CDR or Anderson should be included.

In regards to the pick being included, I had seen some ideas about offering the Boston pick in exchange for the NJ pick. It is expected around 30, so about ten or so spots difference from NJ, but it IS a guaranteed contract. MN does also have a few second rounders (though not there own) as other means to try and balance a trade.

I don't think Anderson has been discussed in any matter and don't think their would be great interest in him as he is predominately (I believe) a power forward, where Boone can/could play more center. CDR there could be interest, but I am sure you are quite high on him and it wouldn't be worth the price you may ask to include him.

Either way, both boards have some reasonable ideas and not so reasonable. Odds are you end up with Hughes or someone else and not Miller anyhow.

[Preludepunk27]

I would say odds are the deadline will pass and all Nets, Bulls and Minny fans will be pissed.

[Chris Morris]

The guy I would still love us to go after is Salmons, but I don't know what Sacto would be looking for.

Salmons is a weak shooter, no?

[vincecarter4pres]

Salmons is a very good mid range shooter and has really improved his 3 point accuracy this year, I believe shooting 41% putting up about 3 and a half 3 pointers per game, so it is a fair sample size.

He does have an extra year on his contract, but if we were talking about going after Butler, so does he and Salmons makes around 5 mill in 2011, which is less then the current MLE.

IDK, I just like Salmons all around game, but truthfully, he is playing out of his mind this year and might cost close to what Butler would if we even have the pieces and that would be overpaying.

[shrink]

I thought you guys would be interested in this article

http://www.startribune.com/sports/wolve ... LanchO7DiU

McHale: Miller isn't on the trading block

The Wolves coach said rumors of a possible deal with the Nets aren't true, and he knows Miller's shooting struggles won't last forever.

Timberwolves coach Kevin McHale says there is nothing to the rumors that guard/forward Mike Miller might be traded to the New Jersey Nets.

"This is the NBA. If a good trade comes along, you do something," McHale said. "But I would like to keep the core of this group together and let them develop into what they can be."

Regarding Miller, who was acquired in a 2008 draft-day deal with Memphis, McHale said: "First of all, I can tell you that Mike has been unbelievable. Mike is such a great guy. His ability to rebound, pass the ball, defend out there -- he's been doing so many good things for us.

"The thing everybody looks at is he's not making shots right now. These are shots he normally makes. He's going to make those shots, I'm not worried about that. Mike Miller is not on the market. Someone told me that; that is not true."

[S.I.C. GM]

^ Whatever.

The bottom line is the Thorn or Kiki arent old Boston Celtic teammates. So McHale wouldnt make a deal with us anyway.

[Preludepunk27]

From everything I've read, McHale makes people's heads spin when discussing trades with him. As much as he talks up how solid Miller is, he's flat out lying about him being in their future plans. Miller is what guys like Najera are to us...high character guys that want to play and are willing to be a team player and help the young guys develop. However, there will come a point when they will ask him to take a back seat because a young guy is ready to step up. Miller will probably gladly accept watching most of the game from the bench to better help the team. He is not part of the "core" McHale is speaking of and you just need to understand his rhetoric to see what he's really saying.

Now, with that said, as much as I prefer Miller over Hughes, I didn't totally believe Miller was on the market to bein with. When I read the article mentioning it, I thought it made sense since Minny appeared to want the cap space for this summer and we had some chips that would allow them to do that while we upgraded our 3-spot. I will bet you Thorn and Kiki at least made a call about him regardless because lots of GM's like Miller, but McHale probably wasn't interested because we lowballed the hell out of them. Regardless, we have 25 days till the trade deadline, you never know what will happen. Now that Redd is done for the year, it may make it easier for us to land the 7 or 8 seed and Thorn and Kiki may feel we don't need to make any major moves to get there. I still would like to clear 1 contract to sign a backup PG, but I won't be that angry if we don't make a move.

[jerseyjac]

I am having a hard time seeing your guys' side of this one.

Mike Miller for an expiring contract, a young guy with issues and what will be a late first rounder is perfectly fair value. What better could you do?

I think we could even get better value for Mike from other teams.

probably could...but I dont think we're really all that interested w/ what you may think the Wolves are asking...no pick...Hughes comes cheaper...