The future thread

[KM44]

I don't know if I'm allowed to do this, but I thought it would be fun to post what I want the kings to do before the trade deadline and through the offseason. I was thinking that anyone could post a scenario of what they wanted as well.

So here's what I would do...

If you look at our roster, we have our SG, PF and C positions that could be filled for the next ten years. That leaves the PG and SF spots to be filled, and I think that PF could also be improved upon if the right deal comes our way.

Personally, I think that we should try and trade for a young SF before the deadline by using Salmons, Miller, Greene, Hou 1st and whatever else is expendable to try and draw in a nice young SF (ie gay, thornton, green, thad young, wright ect...) I'm not saying we could get any of those without giving up an important piece of our foundation, but those should be our targets. Now that Redd is out, Milwaukee needs a wing and they already had some interest in Salmons to start. So here's a scenario of what we can do.

*Disclaimer* these are based off the best judgement I have. I put some time into it, but I don't think it's perfect in any way shape or form. Just giving some food for thought.

Sac trades: Salmons, Thompson
Sac receives: Green, Jones, Mil 2010 1st rounder

Mil trades: Alexander, Jones, Lue, 2010 1st (top 10 pro)
Mil receives: Salmons, Watson

OKC trades: Green, Watson
OKC receives: Thompson, Alexander, Lue

Kings lineup following trade:
Beno/Jackson
Martin/Douby
Garcia/Greene
Green/Hawes
Miller/Hawes

We look a bit worse because Green is out of position for now, but the next trade fixes that.
Kings trade with someone: Miller, Moore/Thomas or both, for expiring PF who can start, picks.

Kings lineup:
Beno/Jackson
Martin/Garcia
Green/Garcia
(Whoever)/Williams
Hawes/Williams
So this is a trade that I tried to work with and I failed. I know what I wanted, but I couldn't find the perfect match, and frankly, I have spent too much time on this already. The point of this trade is to get a guy who's expiring, can start and PF and doesn't need to score. If you can figure out what that guy is, tell me.

The season ends, we have a terrible record and now we're at the draft. We now have three spots filled in our starting lineup, and lets say we have the second pick. I think we go point guard here, and fill that void. We pick Rubio. Then once we get to the Hou 1st, which lands at like 24 and we get either a PF (hansbourough) or another PG for depth (lawson).

Kings lineup:
Rubio/Brown
Martin/Garcia
Green/Garcia
You'll see/Hansbourough
Hawes/Hansbourough

Then we get to FA. We go after and get Paul Millsap with all of the money leftover from the void left by miller, moore, thomas ect... We have 2 1st round picks in 2010 and whatever player we got in the second round this year (barring us not trading it away).

Kings lineup before 2009-2010 season:
Rubio/Brown
Martin/Garcia
Green/Garcia
Millsap/Hansbourough
Hawes/2009 second rounder

This is my dream for the sacramento kings. Let's see if Petrie can do something like this!

[bflewis]

To be honest, I don't really like the idea of Green and losing Thompson!
What about this:
At the deadline, we trade Miller + HOU Pick to Utah for Korver + Harpring(to make $$$ even)!
Trade Salmons to a contender in the west who needs some D for expirings/picks!
Say we get the #2 Pick, Draft Rubio but if we end up getting 4-5, I say Jennings!

Rubio or Jennings/Beno/
K-mart/Garcia
Korver/
Thompson/???
Hawes/???

Then in 2010, go out and make a huge run after Joe Johnson and draft a big man in 2010...

Rubio or Jennings/Beno
K-mart/Garcia
Joe Johnson/ Korver
Thompson/???
Hawes/2010 Draft

[SacKingZZZ]

Ah, the good 'ol, "I'm the GM thread", sad this seems to come out earlier and earlier every year.

[SacKingZZZ]

I think the fun thing about doing this sort of thread is you can determine what kind of style you will play. I'll start with the athletic "run 'n gun" idea!


Trades before the deadline:

Trade 1:

Sac trades:

Brad Miller and Kenny Thomas

Mem trades

Marko Jaric, Hakim Warrick, Steve Francis, and Greg Buckner

Reason: This trade shaves 10 million off the cap this summer for the Kings, we take on Jaric but gain a perfect combo F that fits into the, "I kick the ass of the Kings when we play them" clause usually associated with players the Kings target. Taking on Jaric is because trading for Miller totally doesn't fit into what Heisley said he is trying to do this morning, but since they clear Jaric, he'd do it.

Trade 2:

Sac trades:

John Salmons

Tor trades:

Anthony Parker, Tor 1st (top 3 protection)

Reason: Clear another 5 million off the books this summer and get a potential lotto pick. I am sure after this trade the Raptors can contend for the playoffs but it still might be a pick in the neighborhood of 15-18 regardless.

Draft time:

Say we land a pick outside of the #1. We'll go with a worst case scenario and we end up with pick 4-7. With our pick we get Stephen Curry. Package the Toronto pick and Spencer Hawes to get Hasheem Thabeet and a future 1st (I personally think Hawes > Thabeet but he fits a need for the new direction). With the Rockets pick we select DeJuan Blair. With our 2nd rounder we take whoever falls, lets say we get lucky and it's Terrence Williams.

Trade and Free agency period:

1st things 1st, cut Mikki Moore. We should have approximately 15-17 million in space for '09. Sign Lamar Odom.

Our roster moving into '09:

PG: Curry/Beno/Jaric
SG: Martin/Garcia/Williams
SF: Odom/Greene
PF: Warrick/Blair
C: Thompson/Thabeet

Odom plays point F with Curry and Martin running off screens in the half court. Most importanly we utilize the clear athletic and speed advantage and run the hell out of the ball. A lot of pick and pop between Curry/Martin and Odom/Thompson/Warrick. Garcia, Thabeet, Williams, and Blair come in off the bench for toughness and defense. Defensively this team has serious potential because all 3 of Odom, Warrick, and Thompson can switch off onto the perimeter and all 3 are long and active.

[Nicky Nix Nook]

Thompson is not a starting C. He can swing to that postion but I wouldn't start him there.

[SacKingZZZ]

I like him there, quite a lot really. Obviously that team is one based on mismatches and he is a mismatch at C. He is far to0 mobile for most C's and would have a lot of the same advantages a guy like Amare Stoudemire had at C.

[KF10]

Heh, you still in love with Odom to the Kings, SacKingZZZ?

[pillwenney]

I like him there, quite a lot really. Obviously that team is one based on mismatches and he is a mismatch at C. He is far to0 mobile for most C's and would have a lot of the same advantages a guy like Amare Stoudemire had at C.

Amare also couldn't guard centers to save his life (not that he's much better at PF). Run 'n gun lineups like that don't work if you're trying to win a championship. Thabeet would be helpful (assuming he reaches his potential, which is obviously a pretty big assumption), but the team would just get killed inside whenever he was out.

[Nicky Nix Nook]

I like him there, quite a lot really. Obviously that team is one based on mismatches and he is a mismatch at C. He is far to0 mobile for most C's and would have a lot of the same advantages a guy like Amare Stoudemire had at C.

But he would get tossed around on defense.

[SacKingZZZ]

Heh, you still in love with Odom to the Kings, SacKingZZZ?

Honestly, I think he's the only free agent we'd have a shot at within the next 2 years worth even going after. Plus that was under a "run 'n gun" lineup and I feel with that lineup we'd need playmaking from another position, hence Odom, who can provide that. Just one of the ideas I had. Next will be the easiest, maybe likely, and entirely Petrie-esque route.

[KF10]

Honestly, I think he's the only free agent we'd have a shot at within the next 2 years worth even going after. Plus that was under a "run 'n gun" lineup and I feel with that lineup we'd need playmaking from another position, hence Odom, who can provide that. Just one of the ideas I had. Next will be the easiest, maybe likely, and entirely Petrie-esque route.

Yeah, I agree. I was only kidding. Like you said, under your "run n gun" lineup, Odom is ideal. To be honest, I kinda like Odom as a player. His versatility and can do a bit of everything. Perhaps, I wouldn't seeing Odom in the Kings jersey but his decision making is pretty scary.

[SacKingZZZ]

But he would get tossed around on defense.

Eh, not on a nightly basis. There aren't very many C's in the league that are going to toss around a 6'10", 250 pounder. And will see how much "tossing" they can do when they are so worn down they can't even stand up, Jason would give them fits with his speed.

[cdt3]

The Kings didn't pick up Coach Carril because they are going to run and gun, that ship has sailed with Theus. They are going to run the Princeton, and JT is a very good PF fit for it. He has 20/10/5 written all over him. He is going no where! I would like us to go after an 28 year old Hedo who can start for 4 years until Greene develops. I would not trade Salmons and keep him as our new Bobby Jax next year and let him play any of 1-2-3. Draft a PG who can finish games in the draft (see Jeff Teague). We are an explosive deep team again. Webber/Miller/Vlade used to do defend Shaq as well as any team could. Hawes/Thompson could also, they are just too inexperienced in playing together to be really good for a few years.

If Bibby were still here we would be in the playoffs because we would have won all the close games we used to lose. We are one player clutch away from winning. We not selling off the farm to win when we do not need to. We have spent the last couple years rebuilding and are very close to being complete the into a contender again.

[SacKingZZZ]

The Kings didn't pick up Coach Carril because they are going to run and gun, that ship has sailed with Theus. They are going to run the Princeton, and JT is a very good PF fit for it. He has 20/10/5 written all over him. He is going no where! I would like us to go after an 28 year old Hedo who can start for 4 years until Greene develops. I would not trade Salmons and keep him as our new Bobby Jax next year and let him play any of 1-2-3. Draft a PG who can finish games in the draft (see Jeff Teague). We are an explosive deep team again. Webber/Miller/Vlade used to do defend Shaq as well as any team could. Hawes/Thompson could also, they are just too inexperienced in playing together to be really good for a few years.

If Bibby were still here we would be in the playoffs because we would have won all the close games we used to lose. We are one player clutch away from winning. We not selling off the farm to win when we do not need to. We have spent the last couple years rebuilding and are very close to being complete the into a contender again.

Haven't we kind of been there, done that with John Salmons coming off the bench?


And Bibby was here, we were a lotto team, we remain a lotto team, we would remain a lotto team, our pick would be lower, but we'd be a lotto team.

[SacKingZZZ]

Idea #2, the more likely route, fullfilling Petries wet dream:


Trades before the deadline:

Trade 1:

Sac trades:

Brad Miller

Chi trades

Gooden, Gray, Simmons, 2009 2nd round pick



Reason: We clear Millers contract off the books, get a look at a couple of young guys and a 2nd rounder. Da Bulls get a solid C for a solid PF and players they don't need.


Trade 2:

Sac trades:

John Salmons

Tor trades:

Anthony Parker, Tor 1st (top 3 protection)

Reason: Still love this deal. Clear more space, we become a player in free agency, get a pick that we can either trade or get another young player with.

Draft time:

Before the draft sign Eddie Jordan if he's available and ready to coach.

OK, say we get a top 3 pick, Petrie selects the big man of his dreams in Greg Monroe because he's the PERFECT system guy for us at PF. Plus he's developing a legit post game, he can block shots, can develop into a good mid-range game player as well, and has as high a ceiling as anyone we could get in the top of the lotto. With the Raptors pick (14-18) we take Darren Collison. He's a solid PG and will most likely be available around that time, if one of Mills, Maynor, or maybe even Lawson is there maybe take them over him. With the Houston pick (22-25) we take Sam Young. Tough as nails, athletic, and quite the bruiser at SF. Reminds me of a bigger, stronger Corey Maggette. With our 2nd round pick take whoever drops, hopefully Terrence Williams, and with the Chicago pick take Jeff Adrien. Another tough as nails player who will provide a rebounding and defensive spark to the frontcourt moving forward.

Trade and Free agency period:

With the cap space go out and sign Ben Gordon. I still think he is a solid option at PG if we run things through the high post since he will be needed for his shooting and cutting than anything else.



Our roster moving into '09:

PG: Gordon/Beno/Collison
SG: Martin/Williams
SF: Garcia/Greene/Young
PF: Monroe/Adrien
C: Hawes/Thompson

[KM44]

^Gordon truly cannot be a PG. The guy likes to shoot to much, and honestly, he isn't THAT great at it. Personally, I think that if we went in the route you provided, the kings should get rid of thompson and try and get a pg. Personally I think that we could get augustine for Thompson. I would love that, and if we could get Griffin...

K, well you can see the point.

[Nicky Nix Nook]

No. You have man crushes on the most random players and you're always willing to give up Thompson to get them.

[Wolfay]

Thompson stays. He was an absolute STEAL and GMs across the league know it.

[KF10]

^Gordon truly cannot be a PG. The guy likes to shoot to much, and honestly, he isn't THAT great at it. Personally, I think that if we went in the route you provided, the kings should get rid of thompson and try and get a pg. Personally I think that we could get augustine for Thompson. I would love that, and if we could get Griffin...

K, well you can see the point.

Well, I do agree that Gordon isn't an ideal PG in terms of playmaking and whatnot. But saying that he isn't a great shooter is wrong. The thing is that Gordon is an ELITE shooter when open. And as well as being one of the better (or one of the best) shooters in this league today IMO. Even though, he wants to shoots frequently and he gets the "streaky shooter" label...

To be honest, I liked DJ Augustine, I was actually on a bandwagon for drafting him last year but he was selected #9 overall. But I wouldn't trade JT. Thompson looks like he will be good in the near future.

[deNIEd]

Thank God you guys aren't the GM.

Trade w/Tor, Mia, Cle
Sac give: B. Miller, J. Salmons, M. Moore
Sac gets: W. Szczerbiak, E. Snow, 2009 Tor 1st (Lotto Protected), 2009 Cle 1st

Tor give: J. O'Neal, 2009 Lotto Protected 1st
Tor gets: B. Miller, J. Salmons, M. Moore

Mia give: S. Marion
Mia gets: J. O'Neal

Cle give: W. Szczerbiak, E. Snow, 2009 1st
Cle gets: S. Marion

Either A) We Land the top pick. Then, trade down w/ OKC for Holiday + Green for Griffin + Garcia

B) We get a pick 3-6, draft J. Holiday. Package the middle two picks together to get a higher one and pick up a SF. Let Petrie go Ape S**t w/ the last pick and let him select any wing he wants.