There's this article on the front page pertaining to rating elite point guards in their rookie year compared to Rose. Aside from Chris Paul, statistically these point guards seem to break out, when the time is right, in their 5th year. Considering Brooks was never considered a prospect to the likes of Payton, Kidd and DWillaims, he's gonna probably need more time and/or have a lower ceiling.
He played half of last year in the D-League. I don't understand what the rush is. He's gonna be good.
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jzmagik wrote:Bottom line is, this guy is showing flashes of Head's massive decline. Head was a solid contributor a few seasons ago in the regular season, remember when he used to hit all those clutch game winning 3s? Now look where he is...
While Head wasn't quitecompletely incapable, he was never a viable long term contributor, keeping his position almost entirely due to lack of better options and his cheap rookie contract. He's sucked his entire career, but isn't incompetent, which made him a valuable (to us) fill-in/placeholder. Head didn't decline in skill, he declined in usage due to his lack of skill.
jzmagik wrote:Do you want me to compile a list of all the guards who have better ball handling skills than Brooks, who supposedly has "very good" handles? I maintain that he's slightly above mediocre in this area which isn't that big of a deal.
Don't really care... was only stating that he doesn't suck at handling the ball, that he's far better than Head, and that comparing him to allstars isn't fair, regardless of where he's actually at.
jzmagik wrote:Like I said before in a previous thread, I was all for starting Brooks over Alston before, but when Brooks can't hit shots, he's far worse than Alston. He can't make a simple entry pass, he doesn't run the offense that well, and despite his penetration it often results in absolutely nothing happening and just putting down to 10 seconds starting from scratch.
This lull or return to standard production (whichever way you prefer to see it) was why myself and a few others were espousing that we wait a few months before replacing Alston as the starter (I had a good hunch Adelman wouldn't do anything). It seems pretty obvious now that he isn't ready yet.
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T-Wack wrote:You just don't get it, do you? It's the dudes second year in the league, and you want him to be an All Star, already. He's not going to be amazingly efficient throughout 82 games in his second year, especially given the fact that he barely saw the floor in his first. Aaron has proven that when given consistent minutes, he can put up big numbers, and when playing alongside McGrady, he's even better. Kid has shown flashes of being a star, and one week ago was the key to starting this hot streak in the Boston game.
Despite his current slump, he is still a better basketball player than Rafer Alston. And he isn't even close to the level of scrubbiness of Luther Head. You sound ridiculous.
2nd year in the league excuse is meant for those jump out of college early
Brooks is 24 already
i don't expect him to be an all-star
i just want him to be consistent
at least Wafer is being consistent
IMO if you can't play with Yao you are done on this team
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jzmagik wrote:moofs wrote:http://www.nba.com/playerfile/aaron_brooks/season_splits.html
He's continuously declined through the season, awesomeStill, you're exaggerating because of his slump, he's not remotely close to Luther Head in either production or talent. Like Bay said, nice job comparing a backup to all-stars. He might just need to play with TMac, as has been suggested, and who's been out all month.
Do you want me to compile a list of all the guards who have better ball handling skills than Brooks, who supposedly has "very good" handles? I maintain that he's slightly above mediocre in this area which isn't that big of a deal.
Like I said before in a previous thread, I was all for starting Brooks over Alston before, but when Brooks can't hit shots, he's far worse than Alston. He can't make a simple entry pass, he doesn't run the offense that well, and despite his penetration it often results in absolutely nothing happening and just putting down to 10 seconds starting from scratch.
Bottom line is, this guy is showing flashes of Head's massive decline. Head was a solid contributor a few seasons ago in the regular season, remember when he used to hit all those clutch game winning 3s? Now look where he is...
Let me also show you Brooks total playoff stats last year.
8/25 fgs, 0/10 from 3, 3 assists, 3 turnovers in 50 minutes of play...
I don't want to hate on Brooks, and I hope he turns it around, but right now things aren't looking so good...
Like I said it's all or nothing with him right now , when he is hitting shots he has confidence and also draws the defense and creates shots , when he isn't scoring he looks confused , the defense doesn't collapse when he drives there fore his quickness results in nothing.
He really improved his defense from last year and really improved in all areas.
He is in a slump now because he is losing his confidence when he doesn't score and then he looks cluless , but the coaching staff let him get through and tell him to stay aggressive and look for his shot , he will get out of it and find a way to be effecite creating for others even when he doesn't score.
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MaxRider wrote:T-Wack wrote:You just don't get it, do you? It's the dudes second year in the league, and you want him to be an All Star, already. He's not going to be amazingly efficient throughout 82 games in his second year, especially given the fact that he barely saw the floor in his first. Aaron has proven that when given consistent minutes, he can put up big numbers, and when playing alongside McGrady, he's even better. Kid has shown flashes of being a star, and one week ago was the key to starting this hot streak in the Boston game.
Despite his current slump, he is still a better basketball player than Rafer Alston. And he isn't even close to the level of scrubbiness of Luther Head. You sound ridiculous.
2nd year in the league excuse is meant for those jump out of college early
Brooks is 24 already
i don't expect him to be an all-star
i just want him to be consistent
at least Wafer is being consistent
IMO if you can't play with Yao you are done on this team
Wafer is in his 4th year. When T-mac comes back, or Artest, Brooks will be better
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Brooks still looking horrible
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Brooks has been a liability whenever he's on the floor, he's horrible defensively, is not a good ball-handler, and his shot isn't falling. He needs to snap out of it.
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I played the Association mode in NBA 2K9 and after a couple of seasons (I put myself at starting point guard but Head and Brooks shared equal PT) Brooks surpassed Head in player rating.
I know it's a video game, but I thought I'd just put that out there.
I think the kind of point guard the Rockets keep getting is the shooting guard stuck in a point guard's body.
I know it's a video game, but I thought I'd just put that out there.
I think the kind of point guard the Rockets keep getting is the shooting guard stuck in a point guard's body.
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I wonder if Brooks still has any value left?
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jzmagik wrote:I wonder if Brooks still has any value left?
He's on the Sophomore team lol..
He should have good value due to his upside. Once he gets more consistency, he will be a beast.
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Play Wafer alongside T-Mac at point already in place of Brooks.
That was Brooks' appeal right? He's a better scorer than Alston, and T-Mac can handle running the offense.
Well Wafer is better at scoring than Brooks. Has he shot under 50% in any game as a Rocket so far? (Ok, he probably has, but overall he must be shooting close to or over 50).
That was Brooks' appeal right? He's a better scorer than Alston, and T-Mac can handle running the offense.
Well Wafer is better at scoring than Brooks. Has he shot under 50% in any game as a Rocket so far? (Ok, he probably has, but overall he must be shooting close to or over 50).
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Like I've said all year long, give the kid the bulk of the minutes at point guard, and he'll outperform Alston, easily. He's way more talented, he just needs the coaches confidence and the minutes, and he's going to be great.
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T-Wack wrote:Like I've said all year long, give the kid the bulk of the minutes at point guard, and he'll outperform Alston, easily. He's way more talented, he just needs the coaches confidence and the minutes, and he's going to be great.
not only that Wack, but rmbr:
Brooks/Artest/Mac/Scola/ Yao is 4-0
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grond wrote:Play Wafer alongside T-Mac at point already in place of Brooks.
That was Brooks' appeal right? He's a better scorer than Alston, and T-Mac can handle running the offense.
Well Wafer is better at scoring than Brooks. Has he shot under 50% in any game as a Rocket so far? (Ok, he probably has, but overall he must be shooting close to or over 50).
I would think he has shot under 50% because his fg% is 47.. But Wafer is awesome, I hope he keep it up. Rocket need to get rid of Head, he's just wasting spaces.
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