Packers hire veteran strength coach

CorporateBucks · Post #1 » by **CorporateBucks** » Wed Jan 28, 2009 10:57 pm

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/38559842.html

I didn't know there was a strength and conditions coach's hall of fame.....

Post #2 » by **MickeyDavis** » Thu Jan 29, 2009 3:56 am

That's a good hire it seems. The last guy was pretty bad from what we've heard.

rilamann · Post #3 » by **rilamann** » Thu Jan 29, 2009 7:13 am

Never hurts to have a guy on you're staff who's been around the block and knows his stuff.

Post #4 » by **MickeyDavis** » Thu Jan 29, 2009 1:13 pm

When MM came in he said he wanted to take weight training in a new direction. But the guy he hired used old methods from the 80's that didn't work and the players hated it. It took 3 years but at least MM made a change.

bigkurty · Post #5 » by **bigkurty** » Thu Jan 29, 2009 6:21 pm

MickeyDavis wrote:When MM came in he said he wanted to take weight training in a new direction. But the guy he hired used old methods from the 80's that didn't work and the players hated it. It took 3 years but at least MM made a change.

Yeah but the article makes it sound like this guy will be doing a lot of the same stuff only be kinder to everyone so they all have a joyous and pleasant time working out. I don't get it. These guys are professional athletes anyway who probably read about working out and compare ideas and routines all the time. Is a strength coach really that important? I have read a few books on strength and conditioning back when I used to be a workout warrior in college. Couldn't I train these guys? I mean I know what exercises work on what. This isn't rocket science. The only thing I can figure is that the main reason Rock was fired was because he put a lot of people off so people despised going to work out. Like maybe he called guys pussies and what not rather than be supportive and praising when they hit new goals. I could see that being the case I guess. Then I guess if this new guy has a better personality to get guys looking forward to working in the gym and in turn they show up more often and work out harder, then I could see the change being beneficial.

Post #6 » by **Wade-A-Holic** » Thu Jan 29, 2009 7:41 pm

MickeyDavis wrote:When MM came in he said he wanted to take weight training in a new direction. But the guy he hired used old methods from the 80's that didn't work and the players hated it. It took 3 years but at least MM made a change.

Not to mention what a cliche it is for a strength and conditioning coach's first name to be "Rock"

Post #7 » by **MickeyDavis** » Thu Jan 29, 2009 7:45 pm

From what I hear Rock didn't tailor workouts for individuals. Everyone did the same thing. When players have injuries (and virtually all players do at some point), it's important to alter their workouts accordingly to 1. not aggravate the injury and 2. maximize rehabilitation of the injury. That wasn't happening. None of us were in the weight room so we don't really know what went down. But Chmura was saying months ago that there were problems and that we needed a new strength coach. I guess MM agreed for whatever reason.

ugliestboy · Post #8 » by **ugliestboy** » Fri Jan 30, 2009 6:23 am

MickeyDavis wrote:From what I hear Rock didn't tailor workouts for individuals. Everyone did the same thing. When players have injuries (and virtually all players do at some point), it's important to alter their workouts accordingly to 1. not aggravate the injury and 2. maximize rehabilitation of the injury. That wasn't happening. None of us were in the weight room so we don't really know what went down. But Chmura was saying months ago that there were problems and that we needed a new strength coach. I guess MM agreed for whatever reason.

If you didn't hear wrong that is insane. Even on a fully healthy team you would still want to tailor your workouts. Take Kampman for example if he is going to stay as a DE next year his workouts should be completely different than if he is moving to linebacker. i have no idea if you are right but i guess i always assumed someone in that position would tailor (along w/ help from other trainers) each player's workout individually especially if players are hurt.

Post #9 » by **MickeyDavis** » Fri Jan 30, 2009 1:17 pm

I'm going by what Chmura has said many times on the radio. Yeah the guys a prick

But he has no reason to lie about this. He said he heard from many players about Rock and his lack of individual workouts.

I guess we'll never know for sure. Hopefully the new guy works out.

Post #10 » by **Wade-A-Holic** » Fri Jan 30, 2009 5:07 pm

MickeyDavis wrote:I'm going by what Chmura has said many times on the radio. Yeah the guys a prick But he has no reason to lie about this. He said he heard from many players about Rock and his lack of individual workouts.

I guess we'll never know for sure. Hopefully the new guy works out.

Yeah, you had said during the season that Chmura was saying these things, and after you told us, I remember reading similar things from a different source, which of course I can't find now that I want to post it.