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I hate to say it, because I wish for nothing more then for Millsap to be the solution to our problems, but the fact is, Milsap is no Boozer.
Boozer has his bad nights through out the season, and Boozer sometimes is terrible on the defensive end, but he wins games for the Jazz, it's that simple.
Millsap just isn't a top 20 player like Boozer, and he isn't a go to scorer.
If the Jazz are thinking Championship in the next 5 years, either Boozer has to be here, or someone better then Boozer, otherwise the Jazz have no shot.
Boozer has his bad nights through out the season, and Boozer sometimes is terrible on the defensive end, but he wins games for the Jazz, it's that simple.
Millsap just isn't a top 20 player like Boozer, and he isn't a go to scorer.
If the Jazz are thinking Championship in the next 5 years, either Boozer has to be here, or someone better then Boozer, otherwise the Jazz have no shot.
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I still think a championship is possible with Millsap, but there's more team adjustments that have to be made to create that situation. I won't be heartbroken whether Boozer goes or he stays, but as has been argued consistently and with validity, Boozer is a much more complete offensive player. And I'm definitely starting to think that the solution to compensating for Boozer's abysmal and shameful defense is to let Memo walk and hand the keys to Koufos.

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perhaps hand the keys to Joel Pryzbilla.
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Problem is Boozer had Milsap backing him up. Who does Milsap have? 

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JockRider wrote:Problem is Boozer had Milsap backing him up. Who does Milsap have?
EXACTLY!! To me, THIS is the biggest difference between Boozer and Millsap. If we had a guy like a Craig Smith or a Jason Maxiell, Leon Powe, Carl Landry, Andray Blatche, etc. backing up Millsap I think we'd be just as well off, if not more so, than when we had Boozer and Millsap.
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Batronuj wrote:I hate to say it, because I wish for nothing more then for Millsap to be the solution to our problems, but the fact is, Milsap is no Boozer.
Boozer has his bad nights through out the season, and Boozer sometimes is terrible on the defensive end, but he wins games for the Jazz, it's that simple.
Millsap just isn't a top 20 player like Boozer, and he isn't a go to scorer.
If the Jazz are thinking Championship in the next 5 years, either Boozer has to be here, or someone better then Boozer, otherwise the Jazz have no shot.
http://www.shamsports.com/content/pages/data/salaries/jazz.jsp
Any ideas how to keep Boozer and stay under the cap?
Trade AK? Anyone with 17.8M in 2010 cap will be looking for someone other than AK, true?
Let Memo walk? How much of his salary will it take to re-sign Boozer? Does it look like we would save enough to keep Millsap? Nope. Plus we have to field enough other guys to fill the roster.
I'd love to keep Boozer (and Millsap). I can't see how the Jazz can make this fly without the tax. At least for two years until AK comes off the books.
Pay, trade or walk? Oh, the drama of it all!

Seriously, who knows? Doesn't help to have all the injuries going into the trade deadline. Maybe we just stand pat and let Boozer make up our minds for us. If he stays, I bet we tax.
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Phenom415 wrote:JockRider wrote:Problem is Boozer had Milsap backing him up. Who does Milsap have?
EXACTLY!! To me, THIS is the biggest difference between Boozer and Millsap. If we had a guy like a Craig Smith or a Jason Maxiell, Leon Powe, Carl Landry, Andray Blatche, etc. backing up Millsap I think we'd be just as well off, if not more so, than when we had Boozer and Millsap.
Please explain how a back-up makes a player better?
I agree, Millsap is no Boozer and I've realized that finally the last week or so. He definitely isn't as strong or consistent in the post as Boozer. Utah needs Boozer back ASAP or else we might be able to get a stud PF like Greg Monroe or Jordan Hill

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Millsap doesnt work because Sloan is here. Utah is PF and PG U, pick n rolls, flex motion...you name it. With a guy like Millsap we cant do the Jerry Sloan offense. If we want Millsap at PF we have to go after a guy like Hamilton or Maggette. With Boozer and w/o Millsap we go after a Turiaf type guy.
Just like Bat, Locke and many others on this board have said Millsap is a bonafide starter, above average player, but he is no all-star. Boozer is top 5 at his position. ALL-NBA 3rd team.
Just like Bat, Locke and many others on this board have said Millsap is a bonafide starter, above average player, but he is no all-star. Boozer is top 5 at his position. ALL-NBA 3rd team.
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gonzo wrote:Batronuj wrote:
http://www.shamsports.com/content/pages/data/salaries/jazz.jsp
Any ideas how to keep Boozer and stay under the cap?
Trade AK? Anyone with 17.8M in 2010 cap will be looking for someone other than AK, true?
Let Memo walk? How much of his salary will it take to re-sign Boozer? Does it look like we would save enough to keep Millsap? Nope. Plus we have to field enough other guys to fill the roster.
I'd love to keep Boozer (and Millsap). I can't see how the Jazz can make this fly without the tax. At least for two years until AK comes off the books.
Pay, trade or walk? Oh, the drama of it all!![]()
Seriously, who knows? Doesn't help to have all the injuries going into the trade deadline. Maybe we just stand pat and let Boozer make up our minds for us. If he stays, I bet we tax.
Well look at it this way. Utah or any team for that matter pays the tax till after the season. Utah can sign everyone and use Korver, possibly Memos expiring contract to get under the cap or if we are stellar when healthy Utah will take the hit for a legit title run.
It all depends what Millsap gets offered. If Memphis, Detriot or OKC come with a big offer then we have a big decision on our hands. If people are economically conscious all Millsap can get is the Mid-Level.
Utah is very stubborn. They wont admit they made a huge mistake with the AK signing...hence why they didnt trade him for Marion or anyone else when his stock was higher. Memo probably has the most trade value right now.
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Millsap is not better than Boozer...
Now is clear...
Now is clear...
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Millsap maybe the better overall player in the future, but he will never get to boozers level on offense. Although with these down games with millsap maybe it will decrease his value in free agency maybe he will only get 8 a year.

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I love Millsap, but I think you're fooling yourself if you don't think the Jazz need Boozer to win. Boozer>Millsap.
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Millsap isn't a bad scorer, he has great footwork and a consistent outside shot. Deron doesn't trust him on the pick n rolls, so we run fewer and instead rely on the pick and pop with an inconsistent Okur. The only thing that Boozer has that Millsap doesn't is respect in the league.
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Soul Patch wrote:The only thing that Boozer has that Millsap doesn't is respect in the league.





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Soul Patch wrote:Millsap isn't a bad scorer, he has great footwork and a consistent outside shot. Deron doesn't trust him on the pick n rolls, so we run fewer and instead rely on the pick and pop with an inconsistent Okur. The only thing that Boozer has that Millsap doesn't is respect in the league.
are you serious? Boozer is way more consistent on his shot. Boozer has arc oh his shot millsaps is flat plus he barely jumps. You are mistaken if you think Millsap is what Boozer is offensively.

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New Jazzy Nets wrote:are you serious? Boozer is way more consistent on his shot. Boozer has arc oh his shot millsaps is flat plus he barely jumps. You are mistaken if you think Millsap is what Boozer is offensively.
Not to mention the fact I don't cringe every time Boozer steps up to shoot a free throw either.

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My point was that the difference between Millsap and Boozer is over-exaggerated on both ends. Millsap can help with the scoring load but Dwill needs to start giving him the ball more on the pick n roll. Right now we're relying mostly on our jumpshots and that's not a good way to win ball games. To New Jazzy, Millsap's shot is consistent, maybe not as good as Boozer's but I'm comfortable with him shooting the 18-20 footers.
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It's amazing how insane people (including me) get during the season. In the playoffs last year, everyone was saying that Boozer sucked because his supposedly inside game was all about taking midrange jumpshots and that he was a pussy for not taking it strong to the basket. When Sap was putting up nice numbers and we were winning, it was: **** Boozer. Millsap rocks. And now that we're doing terribly, Boozer is the key to us winning?
I'm sorry to say this to you guys, but Boozer will be a pussy sometimes and his defense will still be horrible. If you think that once he gets back, we'll do great, you're all crazy. His rebounding and scoring will be nice to have, but we still won't be able to stop anyone. Every wing in the league will still have career nights against us and so will any decent big man. This team has some major flaws, including coaching, conditioning and especially mental and toughness problems.
I wanna say they're still young, but this team has been together for quite some time. They're just stupid and scared on the road and can't finish games at all. With everyone healthy, we have great depth and scoring and that will win us some games. But until we learn or at least try to playing some defense, we won't go very far, even with both Boozer and Ak back.
And anyone who thinks that Boozer is a much better FT shooter than Millsap clearly can't remember Boozer shooting FTs.
I'm sorry to say this to you guys, but Boozer will be a pussy sometimes and his defense will still be horrible. If you think that once he gets back, we'll do great, you're all crazy. His rebounding and scoring will be nice to have, but we still won't be able to stop anyone. Every wing in the league will still have career nights against us and so will any decent big man. This team has some major flaws, including coaching, conditioning and especially mental and toughness problems.
I wanna say they're still young, but this team has been together for quite some time. They're just stupid and scared on the road and can't finish games at all. With everyone healthy, we have great depth and scoring and that will win us some games. But until we learn or at least try to playing some defense, we won't go very far, even with both Boozer and Ak back.
And anyone who thinks that Boozer is a much better FT shooter than Millsap clearly can't remember Boozer shooting FTs.
