Fatt Lipp's Off-Season : switch to a 3-4 Vers 2.0

[Lippo]

Vers 2
Capers in as DC.

Resigned:
Tramon Williams 4yr/12m
Colin Cole 3yr/4m
Atari Bigby 3yr/4.5m
Brady Poppinga 3yr/6m

Extended:
Greg Jennings 5yr/38mm
Nick Collins 4yr/22m

Cut/Release
Mark Tauscher
Jarrett Bush
Mike Montgomery
Tony Moll

FA Signings
Julius Peppers 3yr/32m
Marcus Tubbs 2yr/4m
Dwan Edwards 2yr/2m
Justin Miller 3yr/3.5m

Trade 1(9) to Phili 1(21) + 1(27)
Trade Al Harris to NE 2(56)
Trade Brohm to Carolina for 2(61)
Trade Nick Barnett to Indy for 3(92)

Using http://www.walterfootball.com/draft2009.php for draft positions.

Draft
1(21): OLB Aaron Maybin, Penn State Height: 6-4. Weight: 240. Projected 40 Time: 4.61.
1(27): DE Tyson Jackson, LSU Height: 6-5. Weight: 292. Projected 40 Time: 4.85.
2(41): S William Moore, FS/SS, Missouri Height: 6-1. Weight: 227. Projected 40 Time: 4.45.
2(56): CB Darius Butler, Connecticut Height: 5-11. Weight: 186. Projected 40 Time: 4.36.
2(61): C Antoine Caldwell, Alabama Height: 6-3. Weight: 307. Projected 40 Time: 5.13.
3(73): OT Jamon Meredith, South Carolina Height: 6-5. Weight: 302. Projected 40 Time: 5.04.
3(83): WR/TE Ramses Barden, Cal Poly-SLO Height: 6-6. Weight: 226.Projected 40 Time:4.55.
3(92): ILB Scott McKillop, Pittsburgh Height: 6-1. Weight: 243. Projected 40 Time: 4.69.
4(105): QB/WR Pat White, West Virginia Height: 6-0. Weight: 190. Projected 40 Time: 4.43.
5(137): T/G Augustus Parrish, Kent State Height: 6-6. Weight: 308. Projected 40 Time: 5.13.
6(169): P Kevin Huber, Cincinnati Height: 6-1. Weight: 220 Projected 40 Time: 4.85.
6(174): DT Antonio Dixon, Miami Height: 6-3. Weight: 328. Projected 40 Time: 5.30.
7(201): FB Quinn Johnson, LSU Height: 6-0. Weight: 251. Projected 40 Time: 4.70.



QB: Rodgers, Flynn, White
RB: Grant, Jackson, Wynn, Lumpkin
FB: Quinn, Hall
WR: Jennings, Driver, Jones, Nelson, Barden
TE: Lee, Finley, Humphrey
OT: Clifton, Meredith, Parrish, Giacomini
OG: Colledge, Sitton, Spitz, Babre
C: Caldwell, Wells, Spitz,
K: Crosby
KR: Miller, Blackmon, Nelson

DE: Jackson, Jenkins, Harrell, Jolly, Tubbs
DT: Pickett, Edwards, Cole, Dixon
OLB: Peppers, Kampman, Maybin, Poppinga, Hunter, Thompson
ILB: Hawk, Bishop, McKillop, Chillar
CB: Woodson, Williams, Butler, Miller, Lee, Blackmon
S: Collins, Moore, Rousse, Bigby
P: Huber
PR: Blackmon, Butler

[aaprigs311]

Peppers for 3 yrs 32 mill, cha right. I guess it's your offseason, but those trades aren't realistic. That offensive line looks like hell too.

[Ryan5UW]

Well, I'll say it's interesting. I see no way in hell Peppers signs for that little, or we get that much for Harris, Barnett or certainly Brohm. I guess one can dream though, but that's all it is.

[eagle13]

Unless you can get all your proposed trade partners and FA signees to smoke the same crack you are it ain't even coming close. But sure it would be nice. But if we're talking unreality we could do much better.

[automatic44]

I dont see why we would go after marcus tubbs. I don't really see him fitting in a 3-4. as much as i dont see philly (or anyone) having much of a reason to trade up into the top 10 of this draft, they wouldn't give us two firsts for that pick. with Al Harris' age and lack of a healthy spleen, don't think he will reel in a 2nd, he's probably worth a 3rd right now. not even gonna mention the peppers signing, he's not coming here.

[Wade-A-Holic]

That'd be quite the haul in free agency. I wish people would stop talking about Peppers as if signing him was even a possibility. Thompson is not going to get into a bidding war for him.

As for the draft, well, I hate Maybin more than anybody who is mentioned as a first round prospect out there. He's fast and that's it. The rest of the draft is just ok. I want nothing to do with William Moore, who is a total liability in coverage.

[ReasonablySober]

Guys like Harris, Brohm and Barnett will be much more valuable to us than to others. We won't be getting value in a trade.

If Raji, Brown or Jenkins are gone I think a deal down is a good move. I do like that first trade, though to make it work we're likely sending a 4th (maybe 3rd) to Philly. I could see them going for it if a guy they target is sitting there (Maclin, Crabtree).

[Ryan5UW]

Why would we be able to get a 2nd for Harris when 6 years ago we got him and a 4th for a 2nd? He's older, he's not going to have more value now.

[Wade-A-Holic]

Why would we be able to get a 2nd for Harris when 6 years ago we got him and a 4th for a 2nd? He's older, he's not going to have more value now.

To be fair, he wasn't anywhere near as highly regarded then as he's gotten to be since being in Green Bay (going from a nickel player to a #1, pro bowl-caliber guy), but I agree with you that there's no way we're getting a 2nd round pick for him. Maybe a late 3rd, but even that might be a stretch, which, if that's the case, makes him much more valuable to us than he is on the open market.

[Ryan5UW]

You're absolutely right, he's more highly regarded now, I don't disagree with you at all. However, back then he had a lot more of his career ahead of him, he was up and coming. Now, he's towards the end of his career and tailing off. If you can find a team that will trade for what he's been the past 6 years instead of what he's going to be the next 3, then you can get a 2nd round pick for him. But yes, he and Barnett are more valuable to us than what we could bring back in a trade. Brohm I'd say he's worth as much to us as anyone else - an 8th round pick

[automatic44]

the best thing to do with Brohm right now is to hold on to him. i know he looked terrible as a rookie, but so did Aaron Rodgers his first few years. McCarthy is one of the best at developing QBs, and i think in a few years Brohm could be pretty decent, making his trade value much better, or at least giving us a capable backup in the event Rodgers goes down. I liked Brohm in college, and I still believe he has the tools to start for somebody someday.

[MickeyDavis]

I would certainly give Brohm more time. Maybe McCarthy can do something with him. He couldn't with Alex Smith. But it's too early to give up on him. We should certainly see an improvement from him this summer. He's now had a year to learn the system and go through an entire season. If he looks completely lost again in the preseason there is cause for alarm.

[eagle13]

It would be foolish to trade Brohm now because anything less than a 2nd would be premature and no one would give us a 2nd for him at this time. There is about a 50/50 chance that brohm could develop and be worth a 1st or two 2nds in a year or two.

[Balls2TheWalls]

Brohm couldn't get us a 4th with what he showed last season. He looked like he didn't have the arm, he didn't have the patience, and he didn't have pocket awareness.

[Wade-A-Holic]

Brohm couldn't get us a 4th with what he showed last season. He looked like he didn't have the arm, he didn't have the patience, and he didn't have pocket awareness.

This is all irrelevant considering we're not going to trade Brohm, but all it takes is one team who liked him in the draft to get a 2nd or 3rd round pick for him. If they liked him coming out of Louisville, they still like him now. You could have posted the same exact thing about Rodgers after his first season.

[Lippo]

I dont see why we would go after marcus tubbs. I don't really see him fitting in a 3-4. as much as i dont see philly (or anyone) having much of a reason to trade up into the top 10 of this draft, they wouldn't give us two firsts for that pick. with Al Harris' age and lack of a healthy spleen, don't think he will reel in a 2nd, he's probably worth a 3rd right now. not even gonna mention the peppers signing, he's not coming here.

On Packerchatters

Update: Just as I was about to send this off to Packer Chatters I got some news.

I thought this may be a possibility given some of the recent events, and just had those thoughts confirmed today by one of my sources. I am talking about the possibility of the Packers signing Julius Peppers. The catch is this wouldn’t be through free agency, but through a trade with Carolina where we would swap Aaron Kampman for Peppers. I can’t tell you it will happen for sure, but I know for a fact that this is something the Packers are considering. I will try and keep you updated if I find out anything further. The person who shared the info isn’t my normal source, but I know them to be reliable. I would look for this to start hitting web sites like PFT within the next couple of days. If this does happen I wouldn’t expect to see it finalized until a week or so before the draft.

Coming up: I will share some names in this Draft you probably haven’t heard about, but are high on the Packers list.

[automatic44]

I still am not convinced he's coming here

[Ayt]

I dont see why we would go after marcus tubbs. I don't really see him fitting in a 3-4. as much as i dont see philly (or anyone) having much of a reason to trade up into the top 10 of this draft, they wouldn't give us two firsts for that pick. with Al Harris' age and lack of a healthy spleen, don't think he will reel in a 2nd, he's probably worth a 3rd right now. not even gonna mention the peppers signing, he's not coming here.

On Packerchatters

Update: Just as I was about to send this off to Packer Chatters I got some news.

I thought this may be a possibility given some of the recent events, and just had those thoughts confirmed today by one of my sources. I am talking about the possibility of the Packers signing Julius Peppers. The catch is this wouldn’t be through free agency, but through a trade with Carolina where we would swap Aaron Kampman for Peppers. I can’t tell you it will happen for sure, but I know for a fact that this is something the Packers are considering. I will try and keep you updated if I find out anything further. The person who shared the info isn’t my normal source, but I know them to be reliable. I would look for this to start hitting web sites like PFT within the next couple of days. If this does happen I wouldn’t expect to see it finalized until a week or so before the draft.

Coming up: I will share some names in this Draft you probably haven’t heard about, but are high on the Packers list.

More to come...