College players thread/ Draft Related thread

[Worm Guts]

Even if we lose Miller, there's not really room for Gomes, Brewer, Carney, and another wing. Maybe if it's a guy you want to develop or a clear upgrade.

[theGreatRC]

Buddinger is a bust.

Why move Miller if not for an upgrade somewhere?

I agree. I'm in the minority that wants Miller to stay; every good team needs a 6th man like him, and if we improve at the SF position next year, we could definitely use him instead of trade him for someone who isn't better than Miller..I know Miller is going to find his stroke this season.

Worm - Isn't there a way we could have Brew backup at the 2, and have Gomes start and Miller backup at the 3..with Carney seeing spot minutes off the bench at either position?

[Worm Guts]

Worm - Isn't there a way we could have Brew backup at the 2, and have Gomes start and Miller backup at the 3..with Carney seeing spot minutes off the bench at either position?

If a 9 man rotation is ideal, and we need a backup 4/5 and a backup 1, that leaves room for 2 backup wings. You could probably squeeze a 10th man in with spot minutes, like you said.

[Krapinsky]

Worm - Isn't there a way we could have Brew backup at the 2, and have Gomes start and Miller backup at the 3..with Carney seeing spot minutes off the bench at either position?

If a 9 man rotation is ideal, and we need a backup 4/5 and a backup 1, that leaves room for 2 backup wings. You could probably squeeze a 10th man in with spot minutes, like you said.

I don't think this is realistic. The only reason Carney is getting minutes is b/c Brewer is out. When Corey comes back we will not have the playing time for Carney, thus giving him the money he deserves will be a waste. This is, of course, assuming we still have Miller on the roster.

If we add a PG in the draft, this makes it even worse, b/c then Foye will most likely play exclusively at the 2. I'm not sure where the minutes will come from. I think Carney is as good as gone.

[Devilzsidewalk]

Carney fits in with this team perfectly, if it comes down to roster spots and cash, then we should trade Mikey for expirings. Carney at 3 mil is way better than MM at 9.

[jpatrick]

I don't know. If Miller is traded, I think Budinger would be a steal at the end of the first round. He's a shooter who can open up the court but he's also got a nice handle and really plays the right way (making the right basketball play).

Do I think he has the quickness to make alot of 1 on 1 plays? My guess is no, but Miller's not that quick and he seems to do a nice job off the bounce. And let's not forget, this is a dude with a 40 inch vertical who could be a world class volleyball player, he's not just a Jason Kapono unathletic shooter. I think he gets a bad rap because he's not the most aggressive guy in the world and he comes across as way to "California cool," so people question his drive as a BB player. He also got stuck in that quagmire known as the Arizona program.

With that said, Turner is a much better prospect but will go late lottery or mid first round, not sure he'll even be around at our Miami pick (and to me definitely not for the Utah or Boston picks).

[john2jer]

I don't know. If Miller is traded, I think Budinger would be a steal at the end of the first round. He's a shooter who can open up the court but he's also got a nice handle and really plays the right way (making the right basketball play).

Do I think he has the quickness to make alot of 1 on 1 plays? My guess is no, but Miller's not that quick and he seems to do a nice job off the bounce. And let's not forget, this is a dude with a 40 inch vertical who could be a world class volleyball player, he's not just a Jason Kapono unathletic shooter. I think he gets a bad rap because he's not the most aggressive guy in the world and he comes across as way to "California cool," so people question his drive as a BB player. He also got stuck in that quagmire known as the Arizona program.

With that said, Turner is a much better prospect but will go late lottery or mid first round, not sure he'll even be around at our Miami pick (and to me definitely not for the Utah or Boston picks).

And Budinger is really good at wiping off the bottoms of people's shoes with his face.

[Devilzsidewalk]

That was a hate crime. In fact any assault against Budinger is a hate crime because he's whiter than the whole world, part of some sort of underground mining race I'd assume.

[TheProdigy]

BJ Mullens has been playing considerably better lately. Assuming we have a pick between 6-10, I would be happy if we ended up with him. What if Griffin, Harden, Rubio, Holiday, and Thabeet have already been selected? Who would you rather have instead of Mullens? Jennings, DeRozan, Monroe, Aminu, Teague, Evans, Hill?

[AQuintus]

I would rather have any of those guys (with the exception of maybe DeRozan depending how he does in the tournament) over Mullins. I like Mullins' size and athleticism, but otherwise he does absolutely nothing for me.

[PeeDee]

Evans and Holiday both with great games for their teams last night. DeRozan did well too, he seems like he's a solid role player for the Trojans this year, not the dominant prospect a lot of people thought he was going to be.

[Devilzsidewalk]

I think the Wolves should spend all their firsts on PG/SG/SF and try to trade any or all of Telfair/Miller/Gomes for a PF/C and/or expirings and/or future picks

or trade Telfair/Miller/Gomes for AK47 if possible and spend one of the firsts on a PF/C

Collison/Ollie
Foye/Evans
AK/Carney
Love/Smith
Jefferson/Jordan

yea!

but basically we struggle so much on the perimeter and there's tons of good PGs and SFs in the draft, we should use those picks on those positions rather then spending a lot more money on the guys we have. It's just good fiscal responsibility. I like Telfair and Miller and especially Gomes, but it doesn't make sense to be paying 15+ million for that trio, we can spend a fraction of that and get the same production from rooks, Ollie, and Carney.

[john2jer]

That was a hate crime. In fact any assault against Budinger is a hate crime because he's whiter than the whole world, part of some sort of underground mining race I'd assume.

I'd put money on me possibly being whiter than him. I can tan, but it disappears within a day. I used to work in the dark for 5 years, 40 hours a week during the day, so I rarely saw the sun, and I think my skin forgot how to retain color because of it.

I haven't seen Mullens in a few games, but early in the season he looked over-hyped and like he'd turn out to be a bust. I've heard rumors he's shown improvement, but I'll have to watch some games before I buy into it.

[revprodeji]

mullens reminds me of patrick o bryant or chris mihm and that scares me.

devil, all we know is this summer we will need to make some serious moves. for roster spots alone. I am hoping perhaps for a big trade or s/t that clears some minutes and brings in a big fish at the 1 or 3 our two biggest weak spots.

bassy and gomes are fine but as bench guys not 25+min starters. we need a starting pg and we need to see if brew can start or if he is our childress off the bench. cookie's minutes need to go to defensive big.

we have a lot of pieces and some serious potential. I just pray we do not screw it up.

[Worm Guts]

mullens reminds me of patrick o bryant or chris mihm and that scares me.

I think he's alot bigger than those guys with the same mobility. He's got such a massive frame. He needs to learn to use it, though. He should be averaging 14+ ppg just off of dunks.

[PeeDee]

Nice article on Tyreke Evans:

http://collegebasketball.rivals.com/con ... CID=909645

[revprodeji]

evans has potential but needs to stay another year at least. he makes so many mental mistakes but has crazy tools.

worm, I could be sold on mullens in the 20min craig smith role but how much more of a prospect is mullens over pekovic?

[Worm Guts]

worm, I could be sold on mullens in the 20min craig smith role but how much more of a prospect is mullens over pekovic?

I shouldn't pretend to be an expert, but Mullens seems to have better physical gifts and a bigger upside while Pekovic seems more skilled and probably more of a sure thing.

[Devilzsidewalk]

mullens reminds me of patrick o bryant or chris mihm and that scares me.

devil, all we know is this summer we will need to make some serious moves. for roster spots alone. I am hoping perhaps for a big trade or s/t that clears some minutes and brings in a big fish at the 1 or 3 our two biggest weak spots.

bassy and gomes are fine but as bench guys not 25+min starters. we need a starting pg and we need to see if brew can start or if he is our childress off the bench. cookie's minutes need to go to defensive big.

we have a lot of pieces and some serious potential. I just pray we do not screw it up.

that'd be ideal to package some guys and come away with a PG or SF (Miller/Gomes/Telfair for AK?)

I like Gomes, Miller and Telfair ok, but if my choices are stick with them and not use all the draft picks or trade them - even for expirings - to free up the cash and roster spots so we can use all the picks, then I'm going w/ the latter. Keep the foundation of Love/Jefferson/Foye, but the rest of the guys aren't really doing much, we should look to discard some of the extras and get some rookies in here, hopefully one of the rooks blows up. It happens every year, so it's a good gamble since we pretty much know what we're getting from our role players and it's nothing too singular.

But if the Wolves don't make any trades and we add 1 guy and come back next season w/ our same slow, unathletic team, I think we're making a mistake. Roll the dice.

[PeeDee]

I'm sold. Just watched the Memphis/Gonzaga game... If the Wolves land anything outside of a top three pick, Tyreke Evans should be their guy.

He has flaws, but man, what's good about him is special.