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John Salmons 

Post#1 » by babyjax13 » Thu Feb 5, 2009 5:17 am

I was wondering if anyone thought that John Salmons would be a good fit for the Jazz. He is putting up some good numbers in Sacramento, and it appears they are shopping him pretty heavily. I have honestly only seen him play 3 or 4 games, but I think that we could use another scorer, and Salmons could be a good fit for the right price--plus Sacramento has about 9 million in expirings as well, so we could do something like Boozer+Almond for Salmons+Williams+Jackson+? and shed enough salary next year to keep all of our vital players without going over the tax thresh-hold. The problem is that our small forward position would be even more clogged, but maybe it is still a viable option? Are there other good scorers that could be gotten cheap that you are aware of?
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Re: John Salmons 

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Re: John Salmons 

Post#3 » by babyjax13 » Thu Feb 5, 2009 5:29 am

I'm not saying Salmons would be the answer, or that it is a good trade from our side--but I have seen Boozer for Hamilton thrown around a lot without much opposition, so I don't see why trading for Salmons and a couple of decent bench players would be far off value wise (but again, I have not seen much of him so, I could just be misjudging his value).
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Re: John Salmons 

Post#4 » by KF10 » Thu Feb 5, 2009 6:16 am

I would actually do that deal to be honest. I'm not sure why the Jazz would. Probably if the Jazz felt that Boozer is going to opt out 100% and feels like that Milsap can be their starting PF for years to come.

Salmons would look good in a Jazz uniform. For some reason, Salmons likes to play against the Jazz. iirc he puts up big numbers against you guys.
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Post#5 » by Neon Black » Thu Feb 5, 2009 7:32 am

I personally feel like Salmons is one of those really talented scorers who somehow adds nothing to the chemistry of a team.

The reason Hamilton's name is thrown around so much is because he helps us in the areas we need. He's a the best spot-up shooter in the league, and the Jazz's UCLA offense would allow him to thrive. He's a veteran who's mentally tough on the road and in clutch situations.

I would be perfectly happy if we worked a trade involving Boozer and Korver for Hamilton and a solid back up PF/center. I haven't played with any trade checkers so i don't know exactly what might work out. But in my dream world, that would be one of the trades the Jazz would make.
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Post#6 » by seejaydeja » Thu Feb 5, 2009 2:59 pm

Salmons is all offense, no substance. I'll pass.
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Post#7 » by drivewayball » Thu Feb 5, 2009 3:55 pm

I'll sisregard the "all offense" charge against Salmons, as his stats and scouting report belie that. He rebounds, he gets lots of assists, and is reputed to be a solid defensive player. He would be a modest upgrade over Brewer, due to John's three-point shooting ability, or a very significant upgrade over CJ Miles. It would not figure to be a huge impact deal, though.
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Post#8 » by seejaydeja » Thu Feb 5, 2009 4:13 pm

Okay, Salmons averages both about 1 assist and 1 more rebound than Brew per game, while outscoring him by about 5ppg. Salmons gets about 6mpg more than Brewer per game.

A very modest upgrade indeed. Salmons numbers are inflated by the **** team he's on right now, if he came to Utah, I could see those numbers dropping significantly.

Again, I'll pass.
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Post#9 » by hoops4life » Thu Feb 5, 2009 11:22 pm

Don't you think that Salmons would get more stats with a better cast around him? A pg that can get him the ball in better situations and where a team doesn't key in on him as much since there are other people around him?

Sac has Kevin Martin and then he is their nubmer 2 guy, maybe 3, on offense. He would be a little further down the line and things would be more open for him.
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Re: John Salmons 

Post#10 » by Jazzman20 » Sun Feb 8, 2009 12:30 am

I'm not sure how well Salmons would fit into a Jerry Sloan offense, and I agree with the poster who made the point that Salmons doesn't add very much to the chemistry of a team. While it would be nice to add his stats (18.7 ppg, 3.5 apg, 41% from beyond the arc) to our roster, I'm just not sure how we would fit another guard/forward into our offense. Also, his defense is lacking. If we are going to go to all of the trouble to mix up our line-up with a trade, I think the Jazz would be better off adding a defensive specialist or a solid frontcourt player, not a scoring machine.
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Re: John Salmons 

Post#11 » by CAE15 » Sun Feb 8, 2009 1:12 am

rip has been doing it for years and is known for being one of the best players coming off of screens he is an ideal fit for sloans system, salmons is putting up numbers on a bad team. Utah doesn't let shooting guard create for themselves and try and score miles trys it once and while and usually sloan doesnt approve. slamons is a decent to good player but not anywhere near boozers value.
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