My Travis Outlaw Pipe Dream

Youth4Glory · Post #1 » by **Youth4Glory** » Thu Feb 5, 2009 9:01 pm

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/t ... &te=&cash=

Anyway we can get Charlotte to do this trade

Boston out: Scal, JR Giddens, Gabe Pruitt,
Boston in: Travis Outlaw, Shavlik Randolph

Why for Boston: Get the tall athletic 3 off the bench for spare parts. Cut Randolph

Why not: Too late in season to make changes, Scal's integral part at this point, we need gabe as 3rd pg

Portland In: Desagna Diop, Gabe Pruitt
Portland Out: Ike Diogu, Travis Outlaw, Shavlik Randoplh

Why for Portland: Get rid of underperforming expensive Randolph and Diogu, filling up front line. Upgrade to Desagna Diop, giving them front line of Oden Pryz & Diop (BIG!!). Opens up spot for Webster to come back, can't afford to resign Outlaw now with Miles on books.

Why Not: Get limited value for Outlaw

Charlotte In: Ike Diogu, Scal, Giddens
Charlotte Out: Desagna Diop

Why for Charlotte: They Essentially turn Ryan Hollins & Matt Carroll into Scal, Diogu & JR Giddens. Not bad considering what they came from. Not sure what Diop gives them anyway. Diogu can score in there system, JR is ayoung bench wing for them to assimilate with Bell & Diaw, and scal can hit the spot up three and be a good mentor for that young team.

Why Not: Don't have the roster space? (though would espn let me do it then?) They like what they have in Diop (good defender averaging 2.7ppg for 5.5mil per year), aren't high on Diogu and his recent struggles in Portland, and think scal is the worst player in the league, despite what hes shown recently.

Any thoughts? Probably really unrealistic, but as I said, its my Travis Outlaw pipe dream. I'd like to see some other tweaks and see what others can come up with to get Travis Outlaw in green.

DorfonCeltics · Post #2 » by **DorfonCeltics** » Thu Feb 5, 2009 9:15 pm

Well since I've been advocating for Outlaw for a couple of months now I'm all for it. Great job coming up with a 3 way trade Ross. Keep up the good work. I think it works for everyone involved.

BadWolf · Post #3 » by **BadWolf** » Thu Feb 5, 2009 9:22 pm

where does it work for Blazers?

wigglestrue · Post #4 » by **wigglestrue** » Thu Feb 5, 2009 9:36 pm

Why on earth would Portland do this?

Why for Portland: Get rid of underperforming expensive Randolph and Diogu, filling up front line. Upgrade to Desagna Diop, giving them front line of Oden Pryz & Diop (BIG!!). Opens up spot for Webster to come back, can't afford to resign Outlaw now with Miles on books.

Why Not: Get limited value for Outlaw

Outlaw is already signed through next season, for 4 million. Shavlik Randolph is making pocket change and expires. Diogu is relatively expensive for how useless he is, but he's also expiring. Underperforming and expensive = Diop, signed for the MLE through 2011-12. Webster already has a chunk of PT waiting for him whenever he comes back, it's called the 20 minutes that Batum's been inexplicably getting every game.

Youth4Glory · Post #5 » by **Youth4Glory** » Thu Feb 5, 2009 9:38 pm

blazers bolster front line for playoffs. turn two useless contracts (21 games played between doigu & randolph) and one guy they won't be able to resign into A strong interior defender and a young spot up shooter in Pruitt with pg potential, good insurance at sg with injured Roy. They open up minutes for Rudy & Batum and get something for Outlaw before he walks in two years. Won't be able to get anything for him next summer in trade as expiring because everyones in the lebron,wade,bosh sweepstakes. Portland won't be able to resign him as they are over the cap now with Miles on their books.

Does changing Pruitt to Baby or Bill Walker & a pick make it anymore enticing for Portland?
Works in trade checker

chakdaddy · Post #6 » by **chakdaddy** » Thu Feb 5, 2009 9:46 pm

Youth4Glory wrote:

Opens up spot for Webster to come back, can't afford to resign Outlaw now with Miles on books.

Portland won't be able to resign him as they are over the cap now with Miles on their books.

1. Portland is still under the cap even with Miles on the books.
2. Being over or under the cap is irrelevant in re-signing most players, including Outlaw because of the Bird exemption.
3. Portland has so much money there's nothing they can't afford to do, excepting salary cap restrictions.

Youth4Glory · Post #7 » by **Youth4Glory** » Thu Feb 5, 2009 10:14 pm

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/t ... &cash=15:2

experimenting with different three ways- is this any better/ more fair?

BillessuR6 · Post #8 » by **BillessuR6** » Thu Feb 5, 2009 10:27 pm

CHA just traded for Diop and now they ship him out? Makes no sense...And POR doesn`t need him, they have Oden and Pryzbilla down low...

I do like Outlaw but this trade just doesn`t work, IMO...

PDXKnight · Post #9 » by **PDXKnight** » Thu Feb 5, 2009 11:31 pm

thebirdman wrote:CHA just traded for Diop and now they ship him out? Makes no sense...And POR doesn`t need him, they have Oden and Pryzbilla down low...

Scalamental · Post #10 » by **Scalamental** » Thu Feb 5, 2009 11:35 pm

thebirdman speaks the truth. However, this is the best trade I've seen on this board in a while. I usually hold my tongue when I see a trade idea, on the lines of: if I don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all. But this one is really not that bad.

DorfonCeltics · Post #11 » by **DorfonCeltics** » Fri Feb 6, 2009 3:13 pm

Agreed. At least he put some thought and consideration into the trade as well as trying to justify it from each team's point of view.

Post #12 » by **sully00** » Fri Feb 6, 2009 4:05 pm

I think the player POR has to move is Pryzbilla. Who is a good player but not a great fit for Boston. I can't imagine the plan is for Greg Oden to play 20 mpg for the rest of this year and next, and at that point Pryz's production will fall off cliff and he will become very tough to move with that 7 mil salary in '11.

avi623 · Post #13 » by **avi623** » Fri Feb 6, 2009 8:54 pm

I'm sure Kevin Pritchard is burning to pull the trigger on this coup