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Adam Morrison, what can we expect?

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Re: Adam Morrison, what can we expect? 

Post#21 » by The Laker Kid » Sun Feb 8, 2009 7:42 am

ohara wrote:Bobcats Fan here. Just wanted to let you know that Ammo is a good kid, but has lost all his confidence. but like I said, he lost all his confidence. One thing I hope that does not happen is that when he makes mistakes, I hope Kobe doesn't verbally crush him. If he jumps down Ammo's throat, it will only push this kid into his shell even more. It really is sad.


what??? You mean he can't take stuff like "Ship his ass out" type of comments?? Maaann did we get another Kwame Brown type player?? I think Phil and Mitch should really try to stop talking to MJ because the dude CLEARLY tries to keep selling the Lakers the busts he drafted. Second, if this kid is mentally frail then WOW Kobe's gonna chew his ass to no end until he puts up superstar-esque numbers like Bynum.
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Re: Adam Morrison, what can we expect? 

Post#22 » by dingclancy » Sun Feb 8, 2009 7:55 am

I think Morrison will end up being the better player than Luke Walton and start for us AFTER next season. Like Phil said he is a developing player, injured his ACL, and cmon no one flourishes with that Bobcats coaching staff. You really think Morisson is worse than Sasha of two seasons ago? If Phil has a zen like experience with Adam Morrison in practice, he will get all the chance he needs. Lakers take pride in developing their player so my expectations are high for him

http://www.nba.com/hotspots/ -- according to this he either shoots hot or shoots cold depending on which spot. So his bad shooting percentage is a result from the Bobcats not knowing what to do with him. He should not have gone at third, but I say he is a better prospect than Luke/Sasha.

Put Morrison on the floor with Kobe, Bynum, Gasol and give him all the open shots then let us see what he can bring us. I know one thing Morrison has not proven yet that Vlad has proved the Lakers. Vlad has shown he is dumb. Morrison from college is a very smart player.

This is the Lakers, I have high hopes for him. Yeah so book it he becomes starter over Luke after two seasons. bye Luke!
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Re: Adam Morrison, what can we expect? 

Post#23 » by Showtime:Part2 » Sun Feb 8, 2009 8:48 am

ammo is almost underrated on these boards. he is a very skilled player. imo, he's like a less athletic dunleavy jr. from his warrior days, and look what happened to him once he went to indiana. kwame had no discernable skill set except god-given athleticism. ammo is the complete opposite. i think the triangle and not being the focal point of the offense are going to allow him to flourish. he'll turn into what vlad should have turned into.

GREAT trade for the lakers. i don't think we could have expected much more in terms of talent and salary for vlad
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Re: Adam Morrison, what can we expect? 

Post#24 » by Dr Aki » Sun Feb 8, 2009 8:55 am

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dcash4 wrote:i expect him to be on the active roster over sun yue.


Mbenga was already on the active roster over sun yue.


only because you mbenga was replacing bynum on the active roster

which is why sun was replacing farmar/sasha on the active roster beforehand

i expect ammo and brown will be benched until they show discernable aptitude of the triangle
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Re: Adam Morrison, what can we expect? 

Post#25 » by Erik Eleven » Sun Feb 8, 2009 10:06 am

Showtime:Part2 wrote:ammo is almost underrated on these boards. he is a very skilled player. imo, he's like a less athletic dunleavy jr. from his warrior days, and look what happened to him once he went to indiana. kwame had no discernable skill set except god-given athleticism. ammo is the complete opposite. i think the triangle and not being the focal point of the offense are going to allow him to flourish. he'll turn into what vlad should have turned into.

GREAT trade for the lakers. i don't think we could have expected much more in terms of talent and salary for vlad


I agree 100%. There is potential for huge upside in this trade.

I would never bet against a guy like that realizing his potential. He was a beast in college despite his limited athleticism. The question has always been if it'll ever translate to the NBA where this deficit becomes a much greater obstacle than in college. But he's extremely competitive and I think the triangle might be one of the few systems within which he could function effectively on an NBA level, a la Luke. If he, against popular prognosis, should break out his NBA game next season, it will mean that we completely robbed them. Many players do break out in their third NBA year. In his last college year, some legit experts compared his scoring talent to freaking Bird. I didn't agree with that comparison, but he was an extremely potent scorer in college.

I think Radman was out regardless, something about showing late for practices started the latest rift with Phil, I think. One space cadet move to many? If Vlad had to go regardless, we could have done way worse than Adam Morrison.
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Re: Adam Morrison, what can we expect? 

Post#26 » by Jajwanda » Sun Feb 8, 2009 11:03 am

With hard work I can't imagine that he doesn't end up a better player than Luke. What does he lack that Luke has? If he ever gets back his shot it's over.

He's going to use the triangle to his advantage. The corner threes the easy opportunities to drive. The post ups when SFs guard Kobe. I wouldn't completely look over this kid. He's skilled and driven. Talented? Not especially (although sometimes size and eye-hand coordination are overlooked).

If he can develop into a cheaper Luke and we deal off Luke it'd be great.
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Re: Adam Morrison, what can we expect? 

Post#27 » by chefy » Sun Feb 8, 2009 11:47 am

Showtime:Part2 wrote:ammo is almost underrated on these boards. he is a very skilled player. imo, he's like a less athletic dunleavy jr. from his warrior days, and look what happened to him once he went to indiana. kwame had no discernable skill set except god-given athleticism. ammo is the complete opposite. i think the triangle and not being the focal point of the offense are going to allow him to flourish. he'll turn into what vlad should have turned into.

GREAT trade for the lakers. i don't think we could have expected much more in terms of talent and salary for vlad



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Re: Adam Morrison, what can we expect? 

Post#28 » by Dr Aki » Sun Feb 8, 2009 12:39 pm

ammo? driven? if he was driven, he wouldnt be this crap a NBA player

there are only a few players in the NBA that are "driven"
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Re: Adam Morrison, what can we expect? 

Post#29 » by 6_Rings » Sun Feb 8, 2009 2:39 pm

i bet he becomes fan favorite.

he was the best collegiate player in his time.

he'll revive his career playing with low-expectations and behind the MVP.

good Laker move. Radman is hopeless and expensive.
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Re: Adam Morrison, what can we expect? 

Post#30 » by KobeFan » Sun Feb 8, 2009 3:30 pm

Morrison lead the nation in scoring his final college season 28.1 PPG, ridiculous for that level. His shot is rated elite, could have the best shot in the league in his prime, Ray Allen-esque, but most of his other skills are below average. There's some untapped potential there.

Also, to the poster who said "very few NBA players are driven" ... I couldn't disagree more. I think any player who made it through the ranks to get to the NBA--and stay there--has paid their dues. The reason they're in the NBA is because they worked harder then everybody else their entire careers.
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Re: Adam Morrison, what can we expect? 

Post#31 » by doc.end » Sun Feb 8, 2009 4:01 pm

dcash4 wrote:i expect him to be on the active roster over sun yue.
A bit off topic question. Would you do that with Sun Yue as a throwing coming to Charlotte? Just wondering.
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Post#32 » by Sedale Threatt » Sun Feb 8, 2009 4:13 pm

Getting rid of Sun in addition to Radmanovic would have been the proverbial cherry on top.
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Re: Adam Morrison, what can we expect? 

Post#33 » by hermes » Sun Feb 8, 2009 4:21 pm

it should be said that Morrison has played in Charolette this whole time, and it isn't exactly a basketball positive environment, now he gets to go to LA with kobe and phil and have a shot to turn his career around

and he should definitely hang out with sasha more to work on his confidence
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Re: Adam Morrison, what can we expect? 

Post#34 » by mlayer » Sun Feb 8, 2009 4:32 pm

I like the trade for both teams and for all of the reasons cited. Ammo is not going to get much PT this year barring injury, so it's up to him in the offseason to prove himself - not just for next year but for his NBA future.

If Morrison isn't traded for an ending deal in the next two weeks, I fully expect him to hook up with Kobe during the summer and work out with him as they're both gym rats. Heck, Ammo's diabetes regimen practically requires it. Ammo might even end up on the Lakers' summer league team. Should he pick up the triangle in a reasonable amount of time, he'll challenge Luke for the starting SF spot (Ariza may still be most comfortable off the bench). If Ammo wins the job - maybe by midseason - then Mitch/Buss have to deal with possibly picking up his qualifying offer in 2010. If that happens, nearly $14 million of the projected savings (salary + lux tax) will be gone. That is, unless the FO is able to unload either Luke (difficult) or Sasha (less difficult).

For the next few years, Mitch has a dilemma. He effectively has 3 midlevel spots for 4 guys, a game of MLE musical chairs. One of those guys, Vlad, has just been traded and replaced by Ammo for now. Sasha and Luke have their deals. Trevor is at least a sure bet for a Sasha-value deal this offseason. Should Ammo prove himself a rotation player, someone else will be the odd man out. At this point that guy should be Morrison. I get the sense that he's going to do everything he can to make Mitch's decision difficult.
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Re: Adam Morrison, what can we expect? 

Post#35 » by hermes » Sun Feb 8, 2009 4:36 pm

mlayer, i believe it has been said somewhere that Morrison can't be traded for like 60 days

so he's here for the rest of the year
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Post#36 » by mlayer » Sun Feb 8, 2009 5:01 pm

That's only the case if he's packaged with someone else. He could be traded by himself to another team at any time before the deadline.
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Re: Adam Morrison, what can we expect? 

Post#37 » by Jajwanda » Sun Feb 8, 2009 8:27 pm

For example if the Lakers were to find a team under the luxury tax, that cares about 2010 and not so much 2009. You trade Morrison for a slightly larger contract and the Lakers include a little bit of cash.

That would put the Lakers far lower than last year as far as cap spending. The Lakers however would prefer to keep Morrison to see what he can do and instead wait for the off-season when they can maybe package a deal for Kirk Hinrich.
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Re: Adam Morrison, what can we expect? 

Post#38 » by Erik Eleven » Mon Feb 9, 2009 6:09 pm

Sedale Threatt wrote:Getting rid of Sun in addition to Radmanovic would have been the proverbial cherry on top.


Sun's roster spot helps paying the luxury tax for this team. Let's keep him around during these uncertain economical times.
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Re: Adam Morrison, what can we expect? 

Post#39 » by Erik Eleven » Mon Feb 9, 2009 6:22 pm

6_Rings wrote:i bet he becomes fan favorite.


Yup, for sure.

Let's give him some goggles and dub him "Rambis_2.0".
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Re: Adam Morrison, what can we expect? 

Post#40 » by semi-sentient » Mon Feb 9, 2009 6:23 pm

Showtime:Part2 wrote:he'll turn into what vlad should have turned into.


James Posey?

Tayshaun Prince?

Shane Battier?

What should Vlad have turned into?

You're setting yourself up for serious disappointment here.
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