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[Game 52] Houston Rockets at Milwaukee Bucks Game Thread

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Re: [Game 52] Houston Rockets at Milwaukee Bucks Game Thread 

Post#161 » by langer » Tue Feb 10, 2009 5:25 am

Guys, math is simple in here.

Rafer complained about TMAC 1
Ron complained about TMAC 1
Yao complained about TMAC 1

1+1+1=3 complained about TMAC

Who is the problem?
Do u guys really think it is a coaching problem tonight?
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Re: [Game 52] Houston Rockets at Milwaukee Bucks Game Thread 

Post#162 » by Iggyemu » Tue Feb 10, 2009 5:34 am

langer wrote:Guys, math is simple in here.

Rafer complained about TMAC 1
Ron complained about TMAC 1
Yao complained about TMAC 1

1+1+1=3 complained about TMAC

Who is the problem?
Do u guys really think it is a coaching problem tonight?


Coaching is the problem every night. Its easy to complain about a fellow teammate. You are asking to be traded if you complain about the coaching. Thats not pretty math...but thats rock solid logic.

McGrady is a problem as well. I am not disagreeing with that. But as tonight showed its more than McGrady. He has never been a leader...to expect him to pick and up and all of a sudden lead is wishful thinking. This entire team struggled tonight. And the coaching..especially what ever it is we call defense....is poor. The main reason for all of this...is that Adelman just doesn't mesh with this team. He was a poor hire as we are all seeing now.
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Re: [Game 52] Houston Rockets at Milwaukee Bucks Game Thread 

Post#163 » by tisbee » Tue Feb 10, 2009 5:55 am

Just re-watched 2 Half to watch offense again. But what caught my eye was a familiar Rocket-killer.
3Q,just over 6 min to go,Rox down 8. Bucks miss,get offensive rebound,fouled on shot,2 FTs.
Next possesion Yao called for offensive foul,Bucks make shot and are fouled. Miss FT,get offensive rebound,make basket. Rox now down 14 and rout is on.

In the discussion on PGs,Guy986 made point Rockets aren't running any offense. Some sad numbers from this game to illustrate his point.
The Rox had 17 possessions in 3Q before Ron entered the game. From the time the ball passed 1/2Court they attempted 38 passes.(2.23 passes per possesion.)
From the time Ron entered til he left in 4Q they had 21 possessions and attempted 33 passes.(1.57 passes per possession.)
After Ron left til end of game,26 passes in 14 possessions.(1.86 passes per possession.) Towards end of game there were 3 solo fast breaks and there was 1 while Artest was in game.

Ron shot 5 of first 6 times he touched ball in 3Q,w/1 3pt made,3 misses and once getting fouled and making both FTS. The next 6 saw 4 passes,1 made 3,1 miss. For the game Ron was credited w/1 assist(Scola had 2),but in 2half 2 Rockets got FTs after Ron passes.

McGrady in 3Q:
Missed jumper
Passed to Scola,who missed J
Missed J,Yao lost offensive rebound
Passed to Yao who scored
Beautiful pass to Rafer who missed layup
Dribbled around key before missing J,Yao fouled on offensive rebound
Passed to Alston who made 3
Passed to Battier,who drove and was fouled,made 2 FTs
Bobbled pass and lost it for Bucks layup
Passed to Alston who missed open 3.
Sat on bench rest of game.
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Re: [Game 52] Houston Rockets at Milwaukee Bucks Game Thread 

Post#164 » by Teckon » Tue Feb 10, 2009 6:16 am

tisbee wrote:Just re-watched 2 Half to watch offense again. But what caught my eye was a familiar Rocket-killer.
3Q,just over 6 min to go,Rox down 8. Bucks miss,get offensive rebound,fouled on shot,2 FTs.
Next possesion Yao called for offensive foul,Bucks make shot and are fouled. Miss FT,get offensive rebound,make basket. Rox now down 14 and rout is on.

In the discussion on PGs,Guy986 made point Rockets aren't running any offense. Some sad numbers from this game to illustrate his point.
The Rox had 17 possessions in 3Q before Ron entered the game. From the time the ball passed 1/2Court they attempted 38 passes.(2.23 passes per possesion.)
From the time Ron entered til he left in 4Q they had 21 possessions and attempted 33 passes.(1.57 passes per possession.)
After Ron left til end of game,26 passes in 14 possessions.(1.86 passes per possession.) Towards end of game there were 3 solo fast breaks and there was 1 while Artest was in game.

Ron shot 5 of first 6 times he touched ball in 3Q,w/1 3pt made,3 misses and once getting fouled and making both FTS. The next 6 saw 4 passes,1 made 3,1 miss. For the game Ron was credited w/1 assist(Scola had 2),but in 2half 2 Rockets got FTs after Ron passes.

McGrady in 3Q:
Missed jumper
Passed to Scola,who missed J
Missed J,Yao lost offensive rebound
Passed to Yao who scored
Beautiful pass to Rafer who missed layup
Dribbled around key before missing J,Yao fouled on offensive rebound
Passed to Alston who made 3
Passed to Battier,who drove and was fouled,made 2 FTs
Bobbled pass and lost it for Bucks layup
Passed to Alston who missed open 3.
Sat on bench rest of game.


Good observation. However i have a big issue with the Great Coach Adelman on the bold part. Adelman didnot call any TimeOut to help. To me the best time to call will be when the rockets are 14 down after the quick 6 pts scored by Bucks. That will give an opportunity to calm the rockets and made some recovery runs.

But that's not what Adelman had in mind. Instead it was Bucks who called a TimeOut after the lead can increase to 19. Adelman acted that he wanted to proof something and his ego to prove a point seem bigger than a team win-loss.

When Ron came in, the game was already too far out of reach and the team just played without any passion or burden. The observations from such mode of play may be skewed and not representative. the rockets were playing to get more points (not to be embarrassed) instead of the mentality to win the game (hence no defense).
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Re: [Game 52] Houston Rockets at Milwaukee Bucks Game Thread 

Post#165 » by jzmagik » Tue Feb 10, 2009 7:11 am

Honestly I'm not suprised we lost this game.

Also, I feel really bad for Tmac getting hung by the rim in the beginning. His body is just failing him right now, and I know its a step back mentally for him.
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Re: [Game 52] Houston Rockets at Milwaukee Bucks Game Thread 

Post#166 » by hackle » Tue Feb 10, 2009 7:17 am

T-Mac United wrote:
hackle wrote:Yo, my TV broke, how did we do?





hehehe


Is that the 3rd TV you broke?


yes and tmac scored 3 pt. when i broke my 30th tv he's be a monster. so guys, let's break some TV!
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Re: [Game 52] Houston Rockets at Milwaukee Bucks Game Thread 

Post#167 » by moofs » Tue Feb 10, 2009 4:53 pm

tisbee wrote:Just re-watched 2 Half to watch offense again. But what caught my eye was a familiar Rocket-killer.
3Q,just over 6 min to go,Rox down 8. Bucks miss,get offensive rebound,fouled on shot,2 FTs.
Next possesion Yao called for offensive foul,Bucks make shot and are fouled. Miss FT,get offensive rebound,make basket. Rox now down 14 and rout is on.

In the discussion on PGs,Guy986 made point Rockets aren't running any offense. Some sad numbers from this game to illustrate his point.
The Rox had 17 possessions in 3Q before Ron entered the game. From the time the ball passed 1/2Court they attempted 38 passes.(2.23 passes per possesion.)
From the time Ron entered til he left in 4Q they had 21 possessions and attempted 33 passes.(1.57 passes per possession.)
After Ron left til end of game,26 passes in 14 possessions.(1.86 passes per possession.) Towards end of game there were 3 solo fast breaks and there was 1 while Artest was in game.

Ron shot 5 of first 6 times he touched ball in 3Q,w/1 3pt made,3 misses and once getting fouled and making both FTS. The next 6 saw 4 passes,1 made 3,1 miss. For the game Ron was credited w/1 assist(Scola had 2),but in 2half 2 Rockets got FTs after Ron passes.

McGrady in 3Q:
Missed jumper
Passed to Scola,who missed J
Missed J,Yao lost offensive rebound
Passed to Yao who scored
Beautiful pass to Rafer who missed layup
Dribbled around key before missing J,Yao fouled on offensive rebound
Passed to Alston who made 3
Passed to Battier,who drove and was fouled,made 2 FTs
Bobbled pass and lost it for Bucks layup
Passed to Alston who missed open 3.
Sat on bench rest of game.


Ouch. Really hurts to have it all spelled out like that.

hackle wrote:yes and tmac scored 3 pt. when i broke my 30th tv he's be a monster. so guys, let's break some TV!


Damn man!
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