Wiretrap: VC to the Spurs?

[StClairBandit]

just the past year alone.."Spurs close to acquiring Artest".."Spurs close to signing Maggette".."Spurs close to signing Mutombo"..

Wow, so true...

[Ballings7]

More realistically, I could see us inquiring about Dan Gadzuric, though I'm not quite sure how his BBIQ is.

[vincecarter4pres]

Gadz BBQ is high, always set real high.
But only one side, you want to get that convection action going to get an even cook on the meat.

[Baddy Chuck]

More realistically, I could see us inquiring about Dan Gadzuric, though I'm not quite sure how his BBIQ is.

If you took Jefferson/Gadz for just about any one/two year deals I would love you.

[The Magic Man]

Im a Magic fan and I must say if you aquire VC without giving up your Big 3,I say that you guys will be the team to beat in the West.

Can you imagine this lineup
pg:Parker
sg:Ginobli
sf:Carter
pf:Duncan
c:Oberto

08-09 NBA CHAMPIONS.
sf:

[the southern dandy]

When I originally heard about these rumours I was quite excited. After some consideration I realised that I was more enamoured with the name, rather than the proposed player.
There's no doubting that VC is an incredibly talented player and athlete, and if we were weak at the guard spots I'd be very much for acquiring him. The problem is that his stats seem 'hollow' in a way. He does put up his stats legitimately and in a quality manner, don't get me wrong. It seems as if his presense in a game has very little input into the actual result of the game. This is just an opinion.

For me to want to 'gut out the roster', as would happen if a VC trade occured, that player would have to either:
* Be a strong player in a position of need - This is obviously not the case here as we are loaded on the wings.

* Or a bonafide gamechanging talent - I'm just not convinced that VC is that at this point in his career.

[coyotes_geek]

For me to want to 'gut out the roster', as would happen if a VC trade occured, that player would have to either:
* Be a strong player in a position of need - This is obviously not the case here as we are loaded on the wings.

* Or a bonafide gamechanging talent - I'm just not convinced that VC is that at this point in his career.

Same here. Getting VC sounds good if you're playing fantasy basketball, but it wouldn't make the Spurs a better basketball team.

[SMRattler]

This "rumor", which I think is nothing more than some ploy by an agent trying to get something for his client and himself, never made sense to me.

I mean, at his salary, we'd have to trade too many players for him. And we are talking about a team that is the clear-cut #2 team in the West. Just as clear as the Lakers have separated themselves to be the #1 team in the West, I think we've created more separation from everyone else for #2. Why would you alter a team chemistry/rotation/depth for a guy that does not address the shortcomings against the Lakers (size/rebouding/depth)? In fact, it would probably weaken some of those areas, at least in terms of depth.

Ok, the Lakers are clearly the best team in the West in my opinion. But I think the gap is not so great that it can't be overcome. In a 7 game series we would have no room for error and would need to play Pop-perfect ball for 48 minutes each game. And the Lakers would need to help our cause in some way too. But that's how close we are.

My point is, we need a guy, probably a big guy, that can come in, know his role, play some defense, hustle, protect the paint and rebound like a madman. What we don't need is to give up some of our contributors/depth and bring in a guy that wants to take 20 shots a game with questionable defense and doesn't help close the gap against the Lakers.

I think the VC pipe dream just takes us backwards and closes the gap we created for #2.

Long story short: not gonna happen and glad it's not.

[Rod700]

Realgm rumored trade of Carter to Spurs, but Nets weren't interested in any of Spurs players except Mason.
http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap/4/#

How about this:

Ginobli and Mason
for
Carter and Boone OR S. Williams

[Blame Rasho]

No way....

[coyotes_geek]

Realgm rumored trade of Carter to Spurs, but Nets weren't interested in any of Spurs players except Mason.
http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap/4/#

How about this:

Ginobli and Mason
for
Carter and Boone OR S. Williams

No thanks. Manu > Vince

[SD2042]

Pass.

[SMRattler]

More on this total BS "rumor":
http://basketball.realgm.com/src_wireta ... with_nets/

Now we are getting somewhere. Spurs won't do anything stupid, the Mavs on the other hand...

Nets figure they can easily fool Cuban to think the Spurs would add a seat-stuffer like VC. Cubes couldn't resist... he'd even give up JHo and maybe more of their future to get him.

So, they'd have the same Kidd/VC combo that worked so well in NJ plus Dirk/Terry. And Nets would have the only two young players with talent the Mavs used to have: JHo and Harris.

[Blame Rasho]

More on this total BS "rumor":
http://basketball.realgm.com/src_wireta ... with_nets/

Now we are getting somewhere. Spurs won't do anything stupid, the Mavs on the other hand...

Nets figure they can easily fool Cuban to think the Spurs would add a seat-stuffer like VC. Cubes couldn't resist... he'd even give up JHo and maybe more of their future to get him.

So, they'd have the same Kidd/VC combo that worked so well in NJ plus Dirk/Terry. And Nets would have the only two young players with talent the Mavs used to have: JHo and Harris.

Via wiretap...

That Vince-Carter-to-Spurs rumor seems to have heated up overnight, with some sources indicating San Antonio to be the most likely destination for the mercurial New Jersey shooting guard.

The latest scenario would have the Spurs sending Roger Mason, George Hill, Fabricio Oberto and Bruce Bowen to New Jersey for Carter. New Jersey would then immediately waive Oberto and Bowen, to get themselves under the 15-man roster limit.

The benefit for the Spurs would be obvious: They would acquire an elite, All-Star caliber scorer on the wing. The deal, however, would not be painless: They would have to part with Mason, a top-notch 3-point shooter, and Hill, a rookie point guard who had figured prominently into the team's long range plans.

The benefit for the Nets would be mostly financial. They would clear Carter's $16.1 million salary from the books.

No deal was imminent as of this morning, but this development will be something worth monitoring throughout All-Star Weekend.

UPDATE: One problem with the deal proposed here. Under NBA rules, it would be illegal. In order for a team to take four players for one, it must make room on the 15-man roster BEFORE the deal is consummated. It doesn't matter if the plan is to waive a couple of the incoming players after the deal is done.

In order for the Spurs and Nets to make this deal, the Nets -- who are already at the 15-man limit -- would have to waive three of their own players first. Obviously, that's not going to happen. Doesn't neccesarily mean there is no deal for Carter in the works, but it isn't this deal.

I still say it is bull... everyone wants to sell papers...

I personally don't think too much of Carter but if the Spurs brass thinks enough of him to trade for him I guess I can play along....

[coyotes_geek]

"No offense to Vince, obviously he's an excellent player," Duncan said. "We'd love to have him. But to give up most of our team to add one guy, I don't think that's the way you want to go. It's a long season and we have a lot of guys who have been here a long time and understand the way we want to play. Just to insert one new piece and try to teach him in half a season the way we want to play isn't the way that we work."

http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=11577

And that should be the end of that.....................

[Blame Rasho]

"No offense to Vince, obviously he's an excellent player," Duncan said. "We'd love to have him. But to give up most of our team to add one guy, I don't think that's the way you want to go. It's a long season and we have a lot of guys who have been here a long time and understand the way we want to play. Just to insert one new piece and try to teach him in half a season the way we want to play isn't the way that we work."

http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=11577

And that should be the end of that.....................

I wish it was another source given that hoopsworld is even less reliable than Peter Vecsey.

[coyotes_geek]

"No offense to Vince, obviously he's an excellent player," Duncan said. "We'd love to have him. But to give up most of our team to add one guy, I don't think that's the way you want to go. It's a long season and we have a lot of guys who have been here a long time and understand the way we want to play. Just to insert one new piece and try to teach him in half a season the way we want to play isn't the way that we work."

http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=11577

And that should be the end of that.....................

I wish it was another source given that hoopsworld is even less reliable than Peter Vecsey.

If it was anything other than a quote from Duncan I wouldn't have posted it. Hoopsworld sucks, but I doubt they'd actually fake a quote.

[radtech]

Why not Richard Jefferson as a Spur? Will need a third team like the Warriors to make it work to get Jefferson into a Spurs uni. Younger and cheaper than Carter. Jefferson actually plays defense and could be a younger version of Bowen. And most important a team guy unlike VC who left Toronto.

Spurs Incoming: Jefferson
Spurs Outgoing: Bowen, Oberto, Mason, and Hill

MIL Incoming: Crawford, Azubuike, and Marcus Williams
MIL Outgoing: Jefferson

GSW Incoming: Bowen, Oberto, Mason, and Hill
GSW Outgoing: Crawford, Azubuike, and Marcus Williams

Then GSW cuts Bowen and Oberto, so they can return to the Spurs.

[DBMethos]

We need a big man. Carter/Jefferson does not fit that need.

[SMRattler]

From the wiretap...

Supports my theory of this being total BS:
http://basketball.realgm.com/src_wireta ... mong_them/