Roll the dice with Amare

Dewey · Post #1 » by **Dewey** » Tue Feb 10, 2009 8:26 pm

Minnesota Trade BreakdownChange in Team Outlook: +10.6 ppg, +1.0 rpg, and -2.2 apg.
Incoming Players
Amare Stoudemire
6-10 PF from Cypress Creek (HS)
20.8 ppg, 8.2 rpg, 2.0 apg in 37.1 minutes
Outgoing Players
Jason Collins
7-0 C from Stanford
1.1 ppg, 1.5 rpg, 0.5 apg in 9.8 minutes
Mike Miller
6-8 SG from Florida
9.1 ppg, 5.7 rpg, 3.7 apg in 30.7 minutes

Phoenix Trade BreakdownChange in Team Outlook: -10.6 ppg, -1.0 rpg, and +2.2 apg.
Incoming Players
Jason Collins
7-0 C from Stanford
1.1 ppg, 1.5 rpg, 0.5 apg in 9.8 minutes
Mike Miller
6-8 SG from Florida
9.1 ppg, 5.7 rpg, 3.7 apg in 30.7 minutes
Outgoing Players
Amare Stoudemire
6-10 PF from Cypress Creek (HS)
20.8 ppg, 8.2 rpg, 2.0 apg in 37.1 minutes

Amare and Love would take the reigns to finish the year.

cpfsf · Post #2 » by **cpfsf** » Tue Feb 10, 2009 8:30 pm

Pretty sure PHX can get a lot more than an expiring and Mike Miller

kandiking · Post #3 » by **kandiking** » Tue Feb 10, 2009 8:30 pm

The suns could get lot more than that for Amare. We just don't have the assets for him. It'd be a nice proposition but it just ain't happening.

funkatron101 · Post #4 » by **funkatron101** » Tue Feb 10, 2009 8:32 pm

kandiking wrote:The suns could get lot more than that for Amare. We just don't have the assets for him. It'd be a nice proposition but it just ain't happening.

We do, but nothing we are willing to give up.

Krapinsky · Post #5 » by **Krapinsky** » Tue Feb 10, 2009 8:33 pm

If that's all PHX wants (it isn't) then we should do it and trade Amare to a third team-- i.e. Chicago/Portland/Golden State/Any one willing to give another top 5 pick

RD&KG2 · Post #6 » by **RD&KG2** » Tue Feb 10, 2009 8:48 pm

personally, I don't like amare that much, but I would be willing to give up quite a bit for him.

PeeDee · Post #7 » by **PeeDee** » Tue Feb 10, 2009 8:55 pm

Why trade for a guy that'll want to leave in a year in a half?

prefuse73 · Post #8 » by **prefuse73** » Tue Feb 10, 2009 9:17 pm

well for that package it wouldn't matter if he left in a year and half. I would include the miami pick as well.

Post #9 » by **TheFranchise21** » Wed Feb 11, 2009 4:20 am

Roll the dice??? Usually that term implies a high level of risk. There is no risk involved in this trade!

Post #10 » by **Calinks** » Wed Feb 11, 2009 4:45 am

Amare would jump ship as soon as another boat came passing.

B Calrissian · Post #11 » by **B Calrissian** » Wed Feb 11, 2009 5:47 am

How about helping Washington get Amare..

Wolves get: Butler, Thomas
Suns get: McGee, Blatche, Miller, Collins, Miami 1st
Wizards get: Amare, Barnes, Smith, Amundson

Edit- Changed it to add more value for Phx.

shrink · Post #12 » by **shrink** » Wed Feb 11, 2009 2:08 pm

Unlike Chris Bosh, Amare is eligible to sign an extension to his four year deal at the time of the trade, so he'll be more attractive to most teams, including ours.

However, personally I'm not a fan of the guy, and regardless of his numbers before Nash, I think Nash heavily influences hos numbers. I don't think he'd be happy here, and I'm not convinced he would make a good high post/low post combination with Al Jefferson.

I'd take him for this price, but I think a three team deal sending him elsewhere would make more sense. Its ironic I started with Biedrins and ended up on the same package (plus MIA 1st) as the OP, but I think Collins value to PHO just makes sense in both deals.

shrink · Post #13 » by **shrink** » Wed Feb 11, 2009 7:04 pm

Great article by David Aldridge on how the global economy has cost overs millions, and how many are shifting to making trades based on economic, not basketball, reasons.

http://www.nba.com/2009/news/features/0 ... index.html

Kaman, Chandler, Amare, etc.

wolves_fan_82au · Post #14 » by **wolves_fan_82au** » Wed Feb 11, 2009 7:18 pm

maybe we can try for a 3 way with portland

portland gets Amare
wolves get Frye,Bayless,Lopez
suns get Alridge,collins,Miller,Porland 1st,Mia 1st or craig smith

wolves
c-Lopez/Frye
PF-Love/Smith
SF-Gomes/Carney
SG-Foye/Mccants
PG-Bayless/Telfair
minnesota gets a defensive center to pair with love and jefferson next year

suns
c-O'Neal/Collins
pf-Alridge/Barnes
sf-Miller/Hill
sg-Richardson/Barbosa
pg-Nash/dragic
add depth in miller gets a starter in alridge and a couple of draft picks

portland
c-Oden
pf-Amare
sf-Outlaw/Batum
sg-Roy/Webster
pg-Rodriguez
gets Amare the best player in this deal

invno1 · Post #15 » by **invno1** » Wed Feb 11, 2009 8:27 pm

Wasent Amare looked at a lil when the KG deal went down, in talks with Atl and Phx. Suns I think have his value very high. It dosent work in Phx and I dont see this move putting the Timberwolves over the top while taking on big salary.

shrink · Post #16 » by **shrink** » Wed Feb 11, 2009 9:22 pm

For those seeking an update, supposedly POR (LaFrentz, Bayless and DIOGU, not aldridge) and MIA are out in the amare sweepstakes, and the leading contenders are CLE (Wally + Hickson + 2010 1st) or CHI (Gooden + Noah + Tyrus Thomas).

Krapinsky · Post #17 » by **Krapinsky** » Wed Feb 11, 2009 9:35 pm

Did you read that somewhere? I'm bored in my income tax class and could use something to pass the time. Thanks.

invno1 · Post #18 » by **invno1** » Wed Feb 11, 2009 9:43 pm

Wiretap Headlines

Krapinsky · Post #19 » by **Krapinsky** » Wed Feb 11, 2009 9:54 pm

Nope. That is still the old Bayless + Alfridge rumor from last night. I think Shrink is quoting a poster on the T & T thread who heard it on the radio.

shrink · Post #20 » by **shrink** » Wed Feb 11, 2009 9:56 pm

Dr.Krapinsky wrote:Nope. That is still the old Bayless + Aldridge rumor from last night. I think Shrink is quoting a poster on the T & T thread who heard it on the radio.

Yep. For whatever that's worth.

It makes a lot more sense than Aldridge, I think. If POR offered all that, Amare would be in Portland as we speak.