Wanted: One Big Combo Guard

Post #1 » by **BigSlam** » Thu Feb 12, 2009 2:46 pm

As Walt pointed out in the Wiz GT, LB mentioned after the game he would like a big combo who could back up Raja and handle some point if needed.

Any idea of who we could target?

My suggestions would be the big Marcus Williams from the D - but I have been told he looked pretty ordinary when he was with the Bobcats over the summer.

The other guy I thought would be great (and cheap!!) would be Devin Brown. Aren't the Hornets worried about the lux tax? Although it wouldn't save them a massive amount of money, think they would have interest in:

Mc6pounds and Singletary
for
Armstrong and Brown

Any other ideas?

coordinator0 · Post #2 » by **coordinator0** » Thu Feb 12, 2009 4:09 pm

IDK really. Maybe Jarret Jack is available, but I'd be hesitant to trade for him. IMO the ultimate guy we could get would be Iguodala, but that ain't happening lol. Please nobody say let's go after AI next year... please no...

August Us Seazr · Post #3 » by **August Us Seazr** » Thu Feb 12, 2009 4:33 pm

How about May and a future second (not 2009) for McCants. Minny's season is done. When Jefferson went down, I could hear the balloon deflating down here in southeastern NC!

Post #4 » by **Walt Cronkite** » Thu Feb 12, 2009 5:14 pm

What sucks is that everyone is waiting for the Suns to do their thing because no one wants to lose out on the possibility of nabbing Amare, but if they wait this out and try to get the best deal possible then we'll be at the deadline and not have anything to show for it.

If we can't move a PG or Nazr for a big combo guard, I'd rather just use the 15th roster spot on a dleaguer. Bling has worked out pretty well and the nbadl has plenty of other untapped resources.

Post #5 » by **BigSlam** » Thu Feb 12, 2009 5:33 pm

Who are the big combo's that might fit the mold that LB was talking about (a back up SG and 3rd string PG if needed)?

John Salmons
Devin Brown
Ramon Sessions
Fred Jones
Jarret Jack
Delonte West
Anthony Parker
JR Smith
Mardy Collins
Javaris Crittenton
Marco Belinelli
Larry Hughes
Acie Law
Flip Murray
Thabo Sefolosha
Tony Allen
Nick Young
Marco Jaric
Rashard McCants
Gabe Pruitt
Mo Pete

Josh Chidress!!

Anyone else you guys can think of would suit?

Dexmor · Post #6 » by **Dexmor** » Thu Feb 12, 2009 6:02 pm

I think they should stand pat.

I think they should play Wallace alot at the 2.
Radman and Diaw are both pretty bad rebounders for forwards and Wallace would make that right.
No more trades. They got lucky so far with all trades. They should quit while ahead b4 they end up being talked into trading felton or Wallace.

spectre_ · Post #7 » by **spectre_** » Thu Feb 12, 2009 6:05 pm

I think you guys are shooting way too high, esp if you're thinking a PG would go to get one in return. Back in the fall I remember Bonnell writing about what he liked in his lineups and from what I understood he wanted 3 PGs, one being a vet and another a bigger combo type. Taking one (Felton/DJ) to get the other is probably more than LB would be willing to give up.

"Lil Sean" doesn't count.

McCants...he doesn't have handles to speak of does he? I remember him as being a pure 2. I certainly don't remember him being a great motivated defensive player (which is what I think LB is wanting).

With the success Martin has had I'd think the D League would be the way to go. We're probably talking limited PT anyway.

Dexmor · Post #8 » by **Dexmor** » Thu Feb 12, 2009 6:13 pm

McCants is not a combo guard. Alot of the players on that list werent.

Post #9 » by **BigSlam** » Thu Feb 12, 2009 6:49 pm

spectre_ wrote:I think you guys are shooting way too high, esp if you're thinking a PG would go to get one in return. Back in the fall I remember Bonnell writing about what he liked in his lineups and from what I understood he wanted 3 PGs, one being a vet and another a bigger combo type. Taking one (Felton/DJ) to get the other is probably more than LB would be willing to give up.

"Lil Sean" doesn't count.

I wouldn't be looking to give up Felts or DJ - hence thingking Armstrong and Brown for McMay and Singletary might be a good option.

Brown is both a vet and a combo - plus he is on a cheap deal.

ccbballin · Post #10 » by **ccbballin** » Thu Feb 12, 2009 6:56 pm

What ever happened to Shaun Livingston? I know he wouldn't be a good backup sg but maybe a third string pg.

spectre_ · Post #11 » by **spectre_** » Thu Feb 12, 2009 6:58 pm

BigSlam wrote:
spectre_ wrote:I think you guys are shooting way too high, esp if you're thinking a PG would go to get one in return. Back in the fall I remember Bonnell writing about what he liked in his lineups and from what I understood he wanted 3 PGs, one being a vet and another a bigger combo type. Taking one (Felton/DJ) to get the other is probably more than LB would be willing to give up.

"Lil Sean" doesn't count.

I wouldn't be looking to give up Felts or DJ - hence thingking Armstrong and Brown for McMay and Singletary might be a good option.

Brown is both a vet and a combo - plus he is on a cheap deal.

Just general comments...and I'd definitely do that deal.

It'd be nice if Shinn's cheap ways actually benefited us for a change.

Another guy I wouldn't mind getting is Quinton Ross (MEM), but he's only on a one year deal and is less than 1 million...so there's probably no way unless it's in a bigger deal.

dmutombo321 · Post #12 » by **dmutombo321** » Thu Feb 12, 2009 7:32 pm

James White. I used to hate this guy but it looks like it has finally clicked. He has been tearing it up as of late and it looks like he may have finally put his attitude problems behind him. DX just had an article on him yesterday:

http://www.draftexpress.com/article/Jam ... gain-3106/

He's leading the D-League in scoring right now and plays the 2. Why not bring him in and see what he can do. He's about as low risk/high reward as it gets.

doc.end · Post #13 » by **doc.end** » Thu Feb 12, 2009 7:32 pm

Guys have mercy ! That would Lil Sean's fifth NBA team and he is a rookie.

dmutombo321 · Post #14 » by **dmutombo321** » Thu Feb 12, 2009 7:48 pm

dmutombo321 wrote:James White. I used to hate this guy but it looks like it has finally clicked. He has been tearing it up as of late and it looks like he may have finally put his attitude problems behind him. DX just had an article on him yesterday:

http://www.draftexpress.com/article/Jam ... gain-3106/

He's leading the D-League in scoring right now and plays the 2. Why not bring him in and see what he can do. He's about as low risk/high reward as it gets.

BTW, I also just noticed a Sam Vincent reference in the article. It looks like he coachs White's D-League team.

They really should give White a look though. He's just as talented as most of the other journeymen whose names are being tossed around.

Bassman · Post #15 » by **Bassman** » Thu Feb 12, 2009 8:29 pm

dmutombo321 wrote:James White. I used to hate this guy but it looks like it has finally clicked. He has been tearing it up as of late and it looks like he may have finally put his attitude problems behind him. DX just had an article on him yesterday:

http://www.draftexpress.com/article/Jam ... gain-3106/

He's leading the D-League in scoring right now and plays the 2. Why not bring him in and see what he can do. He's about as low risk/high reward as it gets.

Intersting article, and if we don't get a clear quality offer that brings us a starter with future star potential I like the idea of trying White. I don't know anything more than what was written about him, so from the article I infer his defense is suspect, and I wonder how good his shooting touch is?

freakon0mics · Post #16 » by **freakon0mics** » Thu Feb 12, 2009 9:01 pm

Larry Hughes and Delonte West are the guys that I would be looking at. Both are solid defenders and both also can give you 25 solid minutes at both the 1 and the 2. The difference between them two is that Delonte is more of an outside shooter while Larry is more of a slasher. I can see Chicago giving up on Larry but I doubt Cleveland would give up on Delonte.

dmutombo321 · Post #17 » by **dmutombo321** » Thu Feb 12, 2009 9:15 pm

Both of those guys could only be acquired via trade. They're both very expensive.

As proposed, I would just a soon sign James White out of the D-league at a fraction of the cost and get similar production. Cartier Martin was playing in the D-League just a couple weeks ago and he's been great for us so far.

Post #18 » by **BigSlam** » Thu Feb 12, 2009 10:25 pm

James White doesn't have any handles. I don't think he is what LB is looking for.

Lord Thaliontil · Post #19 » by **Lord Thaliontil** » Thu Feb 12, 2009 10:49 pm

And Vujacic?He is not a bad defender,he has a nice jumper and he will only play 12-15 minutes with the arrival of Morrison and Brown,we could use him as our backup 2,or another PG.

Vujacic+Mihm xxxx Mohammed? I don´t know if it works with Mbenga instead of Mohammed,if it does,I think LA would do it.

Mohammed would give Pau and Bynum about 15 quality minutes of rest,Mihm is just not counting,and the 5th of the rotation would be Powell.

We obtain a scorer SG that could shoot and defend,and act as a PG

dmutombo321 · Post #20 » by **dmutombo321** » Thu Feb 12, 2009 11:26 pm

BigSlam wrote:James White doesn't have any handles. I don't think he is what LB is looking for.

Ballhandling has actually always been considered one of his relative strengths. He even played some point at times when he was with Cincinnati. Now granted, you wouldnt want him handling point duties the entire game, but filling in for short stints, he'd do no worse a job than Shannon Brown, the combo-guard who Larry is trying to replace.

Vujacic+Mihm xxxx Mohammed? I don´t know if it works with Mbenga instead of Mohammed,if it does,I think LA would do it.

I'd be all over this of course. But I dont think LA would ever do it. Vujacic is still a better backup for Kobe than Shannon Brown or Morrison and I dont think either of them will be leap frogging him in their rotation.