Dallas wants Beno?...and other Beno speculation

[Smills91]

Quincy Douby, Beno Udrih, Shelden Williams & 2009 2nd
for
Jose Barea, Jerry Stackhouse & Antoine Wright

As a Mavs fan, I don't believe the Mavs is going to take on Udrih for expiring money. Knowing Mark Cuban, he's looking to get a pick for something of value for the swap. Otherwise, the trade should have been done already.

Dallas does not intend to part with Wright or Barea as well. I think the throw-in is more likely Shawne Williams or James Singleton. A backup 5 or starting 2 should be heading to Dallas after the trade as well.

I think Mark's looking for something along the line:
1. Stackhouse + 2M = Udrih + top-5 protected pick
2. Stackhouse + Barea +2M = Udrih + Francisco Garcia
3. Stackhouse + Barea + Shawne Williams + 2M = Udrih + Shelden Williams + top-5 protected pick

I think you guys would hang up for the asking price.

I'm not disputing you here, but did you ever stop and think maybe Petrie isn't quite ready to part with a 26 y/o starting PG on a reasonably priced contract? It takes two to tango and even though we as fans would think something or the other, management often times has a more intimate knowledge of what's actually happening. And you're nuts if you think any deal focused around JERRY STACKHOUSE and BENO UDRIH as the focal point of the deal mentions a lotto pick OR Francisco Garcia. That's just CRAZY talk.

[ICMTM]

I think he kind of said it's not right for the Kings and we aren't good trade partners when he said this is what Cuban is trying to do, but we'd hang up the phone.

Guys one thing we need to recognize is we are the worst team in the association! Not that I like the deal either, but with a losing record we don't have the ability to just sit here and dictate the value of our players to other teams. While some see potential in Udrih others see the lack of production.

I'm seeing a lot of you can't come around here and post this stuff, and get off the board talk. That's not good. I like the fact other fans are coming here and stating what they feel their team is looking for.

PS Smills this isn't directed at you. It just is following your post. It's just a general statement.

[Sacramento_King]

I'm not disputing you here, but did you ever stop and think maybe Petrie isn't quite ready to part with a 26 y/o starting PG on a reasonably priced contract?

Is his contract really reasonable though? I don't believe he is a championship caliber starting pg bottom line. He may be great off the bench as a sparkplug but he doesn't like coming off the bench and then the contract is terrible for a backup point guard.

[Smills91]

I'm not disputing you here, but did you ever stop and think maybe Petrie isn't quite ready to part with a 26 y/o starting PG on a reasonably priced contract?

Is his contract really reasonable though? I don't believe he is a championship caliber starting pg bottom line. He may be great off the bench as a sparkplug but he doesn't like coming off the bench and then the contract is terrible for a backup point guard.

the price is fine, it's the length. A starting caliber/6th man caliber PG on an MLE deal is a pretty reasonable deal. It's the length that's got me and many others fit to be tied and I'll bet Petrie feels differently on the matter as well.

[Sacramento_King]

the price is fine, it's the length. A starting caliber/6th man caliber PG on an MLE deal is a pretty reasonable deal. It's the length that's got me and many others fit to be tied and I'll bet Petrie feels differently on the matter as well.

I agree that the length of the contract is bad but the price at the end is almost 8 million and is absolutely horrible. It will be with us similar to KThomas I bet. I hope I'm wrong but I just don't see any team in this economic climate paying a player like Udrih.

[SacKingZZZ]

I agree that the length of the contract is bad but the price at the end is almost 8 million and is absolutely horrible. It will be with us similar to KThomas I bet. I hope I'm wrong but I just don't see any team in this economic climate paying a player like Udrih.

I doubt it since one is a decent PG and the other is a decent UNDERSIZED PF. That and Beno most likely has his minutes locked in from this point on. Kenny was a nice asset at one point if you recall. The Kings got a few offers for him but he was playing so well they wanted to keep him. Then we started sucking, his minutes went down to zilch, and BAM! no trade value.

[sweet daddy]

Mavs fan here. Not here to slam Beno, or the Kings. I think the truth of the matter is that Dallas' real interest is probably more in Salmons. The concensus in Dallas is that we need a starting caliber sg and a low post scorer. Salmons is a starting caliber sg on a reasonable contract.

Of course, word is that several teams are interested in John, so we probably don't have the assets to be the top bidder.

Beno is a decent player, but it isn't a position of need for us. Don't know what will happen next year with Kidd expiring, but most Dallas fans (and I believe the FO) think that Jet can probably handle pg duties as well as or better than Beno, and has all sorts of known intangibles that make him a more desirable option at point for Dallas.

No offense. It's just hard to see how he makes us better. Now Salmons, he makes us better, unless you want one of our top five for him (Dirk, Damp, Kidd, Howard, Terry). Just don't know what we can offer that you would want.

[SacKingZZZ]

I agree, the only reason that I could see the Mavs interested in Beno is if they really like him and think he and Dirk could dominate the pick and roll (which is conceivable IMO). Salmons is a much better, no question about it.

[Smills91]

Mavs fan here. Not here to slam Beno, or the Kings. I think the truth of the matter is that Dallas' real interest is probably more in Salmons. The concensus in Dallas is that we need a starting caliber sg and a low post scorer. Salmons is a starting caliber sg on a reasonable contract.

Of course, word is that several teams are interested in John, so we probably don't have the assets to be the top bidder.

Beno is a decent player, but it isn't a position of need for us. Don't know what will happen next year with Kidd expiring, but most Dallas fans (and I believe the FO) think that Jet can probably handle pg duties as well as or better than Beno, and has all sorts of known intangibles that make him a more desirable option at point for Dallas.

No offense. It's just hard to see how he makes us better. Now Salmons, he makes us better, unless you want one of our top five for him (Dirk, Damp, Kidd, Howard, Terry). Just don't know what we can offer that you would want.

The most recent report showed the Mavs ARE interested in Salmons, but like you said don't have much to offer, so the Kings are asking the Mavs to take back Beno's deal for an expiring or near expiring as the compensation for getting Salmons on the 'cheap'.

That's where we are.

[Sacramento_King]

Would you guys be interested in going after Baron Davis? Clippers appear done with him. What if we could move KT and Beno? Beno comes at half the price and Clips had some interest and KT is strictly cap relief next year. Kings could toss in the Rockets pick to balance the talent part. I mean the wiretap has them thinking of TMac for Baron so a Baron / Ricky Davis for Beno and KT could go through or is it just wishful thinking?

[Smills91]

Would you guys be interested in going after Baron Davis? Clippers appear done with him. What if we could move KT and Beno? Beno comes at half the price and Clips had some interest and KT is strictly cap relief next year. Kings could toss in the Rockets pick to balance the talent part. I mean the wiretap has them thinking of TMac for Baron so a Baron / Ricky Davis for Beno and KT could go through or is it just wishful thinking?

No but the Clips would be in need of a PG if they deal for T-Mac, so I was think Beno for Hart/Davis after they move Baron for T-Mac. That seems more reasonable.

[deNIEd]

Beno HAS to be traded for ANYTHING at this point.


Just looking at the league these past few weeks, it's clear that owners are and will continue to be hurt financially. Maloofs apparently lost a ton of money to the Ponzi scheme, and other owner's aren't doing so well either.

If (and it seems it will for at least some time) the economy continues in this fashion, than a subpar PG making the full MLE will be absolutely untouchable. Players of Beno's stature will be making 3-4 million. Move him NOWWWWW

[pillwenney]

Beno HAS to be traded for ANYTHING at this point.


Just looking at the league these past few weeks, it's clear that owners are and will continue to be hurt financially. Maloofs apparently lost a ton of money to the Ponzi scheme, and other owner's aren't doing so well either.

If (and it seems it will for at least some time) the economy continues in this fashion, than a subpar PG making the full MLE will be absolutely untouchable. Players of Beno's stature will be making 3-4 million. Move him NOWWWWW

Which is precisely why we shouldn't move him--or more so, can't. We won't be able to move him for anything that isn't horrendous at this point, so why not see if he can improve a little over the next couple of years? He clearly has room to improve in his game in specific areas.