Terry Porter

Bac2Basics · Post #1 » by **Bac2Basics** » Mon Feb 16, 2009 6:06 pm

Should the Kings target Terry Porter as a coach for next season?

Post #2 » by **KingInExile** » Mon Feb 16, 2009 6:11 pm

He didn't even get invited for an interview the last time we had a chance to hire him. SHOULD they consider him? Yes. WILL they consider him? The Maloofs are too stupid to.

RoyalCourtJestr · Post #3 » by **RoyalCourtJestr** » Mon Feb 16, 2009 6:12 pm

I think he should at least be on the list. Considering how sick I've gotten of having inexperience at out head coaching position (and talk of Natt staying), Porter would be FAR more attractive then staying with what we got.

I think a good portion of the problems in Phoenix was his style just DOES NOT FIT the Suns players (AKA, the ability for Nash/Stod to play defense consistantly). Not sure if he'd really fit our players either, but at least put his name on the list. I'd feel MUCH more comfortable with Porter then Natt.

KM44 · Post #4 » by **KM44** » Mon Feb 16, 2009 8:10 pm

I would love to see him here. Martin has worked with him before and I think that Porter would help Thompson and hawes develop a lot. I love the thought of it.

Website · Post #5 » by **Nicky Nix Nook** » Mon Feb 16, 2009 9:43 pm

KM44 wrote:I would love to see him here. Martin has worked with him before and I think that Porter would help Thompson and hawes develop a lot. I love the thought of it.

and this is based on what?

the fact Porter was a dominant big man in the NBA?

Website · Post #6 » by **Nicky Nix Nook** » Mon Feb 16, 2009 9:45 pm

Regardless if i like Porter or not, I think he is a big possibility. Because 1, he is apparently a defense first coach (Theus and Musselman said the same thing), but more importantly him and Petrie are old teammates and good friends. I have to believe that will play a factor.

Post #7 » by **Wolfay** » Mon Feb 16, 2009 9:55 pm

I wish we would've gone after him in the first place. Isn't he said to have knowledge of the Princeton offense? If that's the case, then I think he's our guy.

KM44 · Post #8 » by **KM44** » Mon Feb 16, 2009 11:16 pm

NNN, it's because he is a hands-on defensive coach. The guy knows what he's doing, not just preaching it like Muss/Theus.

Post #9 » by **KF10** » Mon Feb 16, 2009 11:24 pm

Ughh, I'm not sure though. Porter turned the Suns from one of the best teams in the West into 8th/lotto range team now.

Probably fit wasn't there but good lord how can one guy downgrade that team so fast!? (But then again, Kerr made some questionable moves that devalued the team)

I would welcome the thought of Porter here I guess. At least, he would be better than Kenny Natt.

KM44 · Post #10 » by **KM44** » Mon Feb 16, 2009 11:45 pm

I really think that he would be better than Eddie Jordan. I mean Jordan had talent (although injured) and they sucked. Porter led the Suns to a solid record, and although it could be better, it wasn't a disaster.

Post #11 » by **KF10** » Tue Feb 17, 2009 12:02 am

KM44 wrote:I really think that he would be better than Eddie Jordan. I mean Jordan had talent (although injured) and they sucked. Porter led the Suns to a solid record, and although it could be better, it wasn't a disaster.

Umm, I followed the whole "Porter/Suns" for a while, it was close to a disaster. A 28-23 record isn't solid for a team like the Suns. Read the Suns forum and read their opinions about him. They basically wanted him out for some time now. And supposedly, the whole coaching staff/players dislike Porter.

Like I said, Porter didn't fit with the Suns due to the style they play.

Smills91 · Post #12 » by **Smills91** » Tue Feb 17, 2009 1:22 am

i was a fan last time, and I'm a fan still.

KM44 · Post #13 » by **KM44** » Tue Feb 17, 2009 2:00 am

kingsfan10 wrote:
KM44 wrote:I really think that he would be better than Eddie Jordan. I mean Jordan had talent (although injured) and they sucked. Porter led the Suns to a solid record, and although it could be better, it wasn't a disaster.

Umm, I followed the whole "Porter/Suns" for a while, it was close to a disaster. A 28-23 record isn't solid for a team like the Suns. Read the Suns forum and read their opinions about him. They basically wanted him out for some time now. And supposedly, the whole coaching staff/players dislike Porter.

Like I said, Porter didn't fit with the Suns due to the style they play.

Close to a disaster is the kings. I'm sorry, but a winning record isn't close to a disaster. Sure, they're underacheiving, but in no way was it a disaster. As for the Suns hating porter, I don't know. But I also guess that salmons is a crybaby? Don't believe everything you read.

Post #14 » by **KF10** » Tue Feb 17, 2009 2:25 am

KM44 wrote:
Close to a disaster is the kings. I'm sorry, but a winning record isn't close to a disaster. Sure, they're underacheiving, but in no way was it a disaster. As for the Suns hating porter, I don't know. But I also guess that salmons is a crybaby? Don't believe everything you read.

If you look at the factors that was in play with the Suns, they should have been much better. I was really against firing D'Antoni. They were much better team under him. Heck, they were the better defensive team under him compared to Porter's control.

Let me rephrase the whole disaster part. The Porter/Suns situation has been a disaster. I actually believed that Porter would make that team to a respectable defensive team. But he didn't. So, the whole "you need defensive players to become a good defensive team" claim strengthens. They traded their best defenders i.e. Bell/Marion for offensive minded players. Expectations were not even close to be met.

Let me change topics, if we are hiring Porter because we think that he will improve this team defensively, think again. We need defensive players to do that. One man can't make the team better defensively. Porter might garner more respect and more effort out of the guys but our players are pretty bad in defense overall.

Post #15 » by **ICMTM** » Tue Feb 17, 2009 5:10 am

I'm not too hot on Porter. He was fired in Milwaukee and now Phoenix after some short stays. I don't think it's a basketball IQ thing so it must be a personality thing.

RoyalCourtJestr · Post #16 » by **RoyalCourtJestr** » Tue Feb 17, 2009 5:16 am

kingsfan10 wrote:Ughh, I'm not sure though. Porter turned the Suns from one of the best teams in the West into 8th/lotto range team now.

Probably fit wasn't there but good lord how can one guy downgrade that team so fast!? (But then again, Kerr made some questionable moves that devalued the team)

I would welcome the thought of Porter here I guess. At least, he would be better than Kenny Natt.

Think is, Suns weren't one of the best teams last year. They were barely, what, 6th last year?

cdt3 · Post #17 » by **cdt3** » Tue Feb 17, 2009 5:20 am

I hope they wait until the season and let Natt lead us to the #1 promised land the let him go. I think TP would be a good fit here also. I hate Natt I lost total respect for the guy when Shelden got hammered a couple times by Shaq but called them block shots and you could see that he was determined to dunk on Shaq and give some back to the big guy and Natt left him on the bench the entire 2nd half. This is what he is doing when our team is getting pushed around. I think Porter would be a good fit. Blaming Porter for not letting the team get to play well defensively when they added only offensive players was as smart as right as firing Theus for no Martin or Jordan for no Arenas. Did Phil Jackson ever get fired for when MJ or Kobe got hurt? I I think like the Maloofs blowing the roster but blaming Theus, is what happened with Kerr and Porter. I would prefer either Jordan or Porter, but if Porter knows the Princeton he would jump over Jordan. We need a balanced coach like Adelman who was good at offense and defense.
And please let us trade Miller straight up for Wally Z! I would do it straight up if they want to throw in a first excellent. He has $13 plus in exprings. Go get him Geoff.

Post #18 » by **KF10** » Tue Feb 17, 2009 6:02 am

Lightning Strike wrote:
Think is, Suns weren't one of the best teams last year. They were barely, what, 6th last year?

Yes you are correct. They were 6th place. But keep this in mind. Last year, the Western conference was arguably the toughest conference in recent years. 50 wins were the bare minimum to create playoff birth. Look at the standing last year:

LA Lakers (57-25)
New Orleans (56-26)
San Antonio (56-26)
Utah (54-28)
Houston (55-27)
Phoenix (55-27)
Dallas (51-21)
Denver (50-32)

Warriors (48-34)

Phoenix and several other teams could have been the top team in the West. So, your claim of "Suns weren't one of the best" is completely questionable.

The point is that not only Porter made the Suns the way they are right now, Kerr had a big part of this. He made questionable moves. Like I said releasing D'Antoni, trades of Marion/Bell/Diaw and etc. They shouldn't be only five games above .500.

I would be cautious if Maloofs/Petrie contacted and/or hire Porter. I would be kinda disappointed but like every move I always give it a chance.

a-rod · Post #19 » by **a-rod** » Tue Feb 17, 2009 2:00 pm

Some of you talk like hes going to be the savior of this franchise, come on get real, yeah maybe someday hes going to be a good a coach, maybe hes not who knows?, all know is porter got his chances and he didn't do something worth mentioning, and we don't need another experiment with unproven coach, cause We've been through this before, we've hired young energetic coach and it didn't work, we've hired a collage coach and it didn't work, we've hired former assistant for a great coach and it didn't work, so its time to get a coach with a proven winning record like flip saunders, hes the perfect coach for versatile big men who can run, jump, pass as well as rebound and score, flip is the perfect coach for JT and Hawes.

Post #20 » by **pillwenney** » Tue Feb 17, 2009 8:42 pm

I've cooled a little on him. I wouldn't hate having him come in, but I also wouldn't shed a tear if we didn't hire him. I do think it's weird though, that given his relationship with Geoff, that we didn't even look at him in the past.