Mcgrady and his flip floppery

[mullnation]

An article at http://www.nba.com/2009/news/features/0 ... index.html basically summarizes why Mcgrady is a sellout. He lies about injuries, he is a quitter, and he will never be a leader. He is a shadow of his former self and at this point in time the rockets are better without him then with him. If they can trade him, trade him, if they cant we are stuck with a sellout and a cripple for another year and a half. Yao is only getting older, the more he ages, the less likely a championship is. Return of Clutch CIty my balls.

[luhbron]

I'm starting to think T-Mac only did that interview with Steven A Smith to release that information so teams would be frightened and he wouldn't be traded. Seriously, I'm like t-macs biggest fan and even till now, I have not bad mouthed him at all. With that being said, what kind of player spreads information to national TV without telling his coach or the media relations staff what he is doing? I was totally baffled by his decision to do that yesterday and i didn't want to believe it but now it really seems like this is the case. Now the team says he might not need the procedure? I am disappointed in you, Tracy.

[luhbron]

I can't even see the team disciplining him in any way. I feel like they're just going to say "please dont do this again, Tracy!" and just leave him alone. That's why he goes on air, says stupid stuff and doesn't learn from his media mistakes.

[dream34]

I can't believe the guy is going to have microfracture surgery and people still think he's faking this injury. Nobody would get that kind of surgery just so they don't have to play basketball.

[Amel]

i dont think anyone doesnt believe that mac is seriously injured, its just that his problems/injuries/statements have turned into a circus no one wants to deal with anymore

[TMACFORMVP]

I can't believe the guy is going to have microfracture surgery and people still think he's faking this injury. Nobody would get that kind of surgery just so they don't have to play basketball.

I think it's more towards how he's handled the situation, calling his own shots, when all the information we have is doctors have told him he can play on the knee and the MRI revealed no structural damage.

[dunleavyjr]

Guy is a 12-year veteran. Why do you think he still is a playoff 2nd round virgin?
Quiter, traitor, and slacker.

[alex_cheung]

An article at http://www.nba.com/2009/news/features/0 ... index.html basically summarizes why Mcgrady is a sellout. He lies about injuries, he is a quitter, and he will never be a leader. He is a shadow of his former self and at this point in time the rockets are better without him then with him. If they can trade him, trade him, if they cant we are stuck with a sellout and a cripple for another year and a half. Yao is only getting older, the more he ages, the less likely a championship is. Return of Clutch CIty my balls.

Rockets wants to trade him but nobody welcomes him.

[HTown34s]

I once backed T-mac against the slew of haters and doubters but now I believe every word against his character. T-Mac was never in it for the love of the game looking to reach the pinnacle of success, and every year he further proves why he's a lazy, over paid, self absorbed athlete.

Straight up ... F**K McGRADY, I'm past tired of his ish.

[JordansBulls]

An article at http://www.nba.com/2009/news/features/0 ... index.html basically summarizes why Mcgrady is a sellout. He lies about injuries, he is a quitter, and he will never be a leader. He is a shadow of his former self and at this point in time the rockets are better without him then with him. If they can trade him, trade him, if they cant we are stuck with a sellout and a cripple for another year and a half. Yao is only getting older, the more he ages, the less likely a championship is. Return of Clutch CIty my balls.

I like this part.

Was it a coincidence that the pendulum quickly swung to surgery just when McGrady's name was bubbling up in trade rumors, even though the team denied interest in moving him?

[Mike12345]

I can't believe the guy is going to have microfracture surgery and people still think he's faking this injury. Nobody would get that kind of surgery just so they don't have to play basketball.

I think it's more towards how he's handled the situation, calling his own shots, when all the information we have is doctors have told him he can play on the knee and the MRI revealed no structural damage.

But keep in mind thats why hes probably been calling his own shots. If he needs microfracture surgery to repair his knee then all the advice he was getting from doctors was not beneficial to him in the long term. Clearly he felt something wasnt going right with his knee. Doctors at first said you have to play on it and worki t back into shape. That didnt make sense because over time his knee just got worse and weaker not stronger. Then he took some time off did some rehab on it and it was still horrible he couldnt even dunk agaisnt milwaukee.

The rockets are well aware that this year and next are his last, the medical staff might have been pushing to avoid surgery and try to play through it. If Yao last year said he thinks his foot is messed up and he wants a second opinion before they found anything wrong you guys would have said hes a wussy also.

All im saying is that tmac didnt seem to want to play at 65% for the rest of the season and thats what he looked like to me. Aside from "calling his own shots" which i disagree with he has acted unprofessionally several times this season. He also clearly is a very emotional player and is a lot weaker mentally then most superstars. I think the rockets need to trade him or do something because you only have a few years left with Yao to play for a championship so the door is closing very fast.

[Mike12345]

nobody just opts for microfracture surgery its very severe, hes not just having this surgery to prove a point lol. However the way he approached the whole situation is a disgrace to the organization and he has acted very unprofessional

[TMU]

It's amazing how some people are still defending McGrady and think that he has better knowledge about medicine than all the doctors he have consulted with. Amazing...

And it doesn't matter what the circumstances are, you simply should NOT make those important decisions on your own, especially when you're the employee receiving fat checks from the organization. He has disrespected his team and showed that he thinks highly of himself, and above the organization.

Look, from doctors to his team all fingers are pointing at McGrady. So who's at fault here?

Not Tracy McGrady? Ridiculous.

[TMACFORMVP]

http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/...ot_so_sure.html

[stockmarketgod]

I mean the guy already knows that his fans think he is faking his injury...

to go and find some doctor that agrees with him that somthing is not right after the other doctors said no structural damage...

then

Tmac ... should have come out with the doctor and someone representing the team...and the xrays to show where he was going to get the surgery, and what was going to be done...

now people might think that he just went to get his knee scoped or was just flat out lying instead of really getting the micro fracture surgery

[Mike12345]

It's amazing how some people are still defending McGrady and think that he has better knowledge about medicine than all the doctors he have consulted with. Amazing...

And it doesn't matter what the circumstances are, you simply should NOT make those important decisions on your own, especially when you're the employee receiving fat checks from the organization. He has disrespected his team and showed that he thinks highly of himself, and above the organization.

Look, from doctors to his team all fingers are pointing at McGrady. So who's at fault here?

Not Tracy McGrady? Ridiculous.

I never said hes not at fault and i never said he didnt disrespect the organization. I actually said that he did disrespect the organization. Im just saying from his perspective when doctors are giving you advice and its not working its very frusterating. If team doctors, a team i may be leaving in 2 years are giving me advice to play through the pain at the beggining of the season and it will strengthen my knee. As time goes on my knee gets worse, your damn right im getting a second opinion. Ever think these doctors may be acting in the best interests of the team and not Tracy?

I agree Tmacs at fault here, but im only defending him in terms of acting cautiously with regards to his health. Like you said if your paying a guy 23 million you probably want him to play regardless of the damage that may be done to his knee the following year (when hes expiring and u can trade him). If he needs microfracture surgery clearly something is wrong with his knee thats called last resort surgery. Clearly Tracy is to blame for a lot of his actions, but i also dont believe the rockets organization is acting in his best interests, they clearly want him to play and earn his money which is fair. Bottom line id put my health ahead of the organization as well, i just think he was very disrespectful in the way he approached the whole situation this year.

So ya im ripping tmac, only thing im defending is his decisions to get second opinions and to maybe think the rockets medical staff is concerned about mcgrady in 09/10 and not beyond that

[Mike12345]

I mean the guy already knows that his fans think he is faking his injury...

to go and find some doctor that agrees with him that somthing is not right after the other doctors said no structural damage...

then

Tmac ... should have come out with the doctor and someone representing the team...and the xrays to show where he was going to get the surgery, and what was going to be done...

now people might think that he just went to get his knee scoped or was just flat out lying instead of really getting the micro fracture surgery

I agree he acted very unprofessional, unfortunately mentally he may know his career is over if he needs micro fracture surgery and we may be witnessing a guy completely breaking down and not caring about anything. All the ups and downs of his career have taken a toll on him and it appears he may be completely breaking down and losing it mentally

[TMU]

It's amazing how some people are still defending McGrady and think that he has better knowledge about medicine than all the doctors he have consulted with. Amazing...

And it doesn't matter what the circumstances are, you simply should NOT make those important decisions on your own, especially when you're the employee receiving fat checks from the organization. He has disrespected his team and showed that he thinks highly of himself, and above the organization.

Look, from doctors to his team all fingers are pointing at McGrady. So who's at fault here?

Not Tracy McGrady? Ridiculous.

I never said hes not at fault and i never said he didnt disrespect the organization. I actually said that he did disrespect the organization. Im just saying from his perspective when doctors are giving you advice and its not working its very frusterating. If team doctors, a team i may be leaving in 2 years are giving me advice to play through the pain at the beggining of the season and it will strengthen my knee. As time goes on my knee gets worse, your damn right im getting a second opinion. Ever think these doctors may be acting in the best interests of the team and not Tracy?

I agree Tmacs at fault here, but im only defending him in terms of acting cautiously with regards to his health. Like you said if your paying a guy 23 million you probably want him to play regardless of the damage that may be done to his knee the following year (when hes expiring and u can trade him). If he needs microfracture surgery clearly something is wrong with his knee thats called last resort surgery. Clearly Tracy is to blame for a lot of his actions, but i also dont believe the rockets organization is acting in his best interests, they clearly want him to play and earn his money which is fair. Bottom line id put my health ahead of the organization as well, i just think he was very disrespectful in the way he approached the whole situation this year.

So ya im ripping tmac, only thing im defending is his decisions to get second opinions and to maybe think the rockets medical staff is concerned about mcgrady in 09/10 and not beyond that

I didn't direct my argument against you, but fine let's continue. Since you're not getting the picture either.

The fact that he's getting a 2nd opinion is fine and I have no problem with that. My problem with him is why he acted on his own and when he's a part of the Rockets organization. It really doesn't matter if he's an all-star or a scrub, as long as he's an employee of the Houston Rockets, he has to consult with his organization before making these rash decisions.

So why did he declare that he needs a microfracture surgery ? Under what basis did he come up with that conclusion? Which doctor suggested that he needs a microfracture surgery over other procedures? Why did he make this decision with consulting with Morey or Adelman? These are the questions you should be asking.

Man, you're totally lost. Most of these doctors that McGrady consulted with were not team doctors, so they have no association with the team. To say that the doctors were more interested in the Rockets is absurd; do you not realize that McGrady is the patient, not the Rockets? Moreover, how can you say such thing when the team never knew about his decision to get these 2nd and 3rd opinions?

No team is stupid to play an injured player for an extensive amount of games. If McGrady needs a surgery, the Rockets and fans would have respected that decision under the condition that McGrady takes all the right steps to reach to the conclusion. However, he's failed that and as a result he has lost all credibility. Now how do you expect the Rockets to treat him respect when McGrady has betrayed their trust?

Also, don't forget that it was McGrady who decided that he'll play/sit out in certain games based on his condition. So really, McGrady was never a part of the organization because he took himself out.

[PocketRockets]

It's amazing how some people are still defending McGrady and think that he has better knowledge about medicine than all the doctors he have consulted with. Amazing...

And it doesn't matter what the circumstances are, you simply should NOT make those important decisions on your own, especially when you're the employee receiving fat checks from the organization. He has disrespected his team and showed that he thinks highly of himself, and above the organization.

Look, from doctors to his team all fingers are pointing at McGrady. So who's at fault here?

Not Tracy McGrady? Ridiculous.

I never said hes not at fault and i never said he didnt disrespect the organization. I actually said that he did disrespect the organization. Im just saying from his perspective when doctors are giving you advice and its not working its very frusterating. If team doctors, a team i may be leaving in 2 years are giving me advice to play through the pain at the beggining of the season and it will strengthen my knee. As time goes on my knee gets worse, your damn right im getting a second opinion. Ever think these doctors may be acting in the best interests of the team and not Tracy?

I agree Tmacs at fault here, but im only defending him in terms of acting cautiously with regards to his health. Like you said if your paying a guy 23 million you probably want him to play regardless of the damage that may be done to his knee the following year (when hes expiring and u can trade him). If he needs microfracture surgery clearly something is wrong with his knee thats called last resort surgery. Clearly Tracy is to blame for a lot of his actions, but i also dont believe the rockets organization is acting in his best interests, they clearly want him to play and earn his money which is fair. Bottom line id put my health ahead of the organization as well, i just think he was very disrespectful in the way he approached the whole situation this year.

So ya im ripping tmac, only thing im defending is his decisions to get second opinions and to maybe think the rockets medical staff is concerned about mcgrady in 09/10 and not beyond that

I didn't direct my argument against you, but fine let's continue. Since you're not getting the picture either.

The fact that he's getting a 2nd opinion is fine and I have no problem with that. My problem with him is why he acted on his own and when he's a part of the Rockets organization. It really doesn't matter if he's an all-star or a scrub, as long as he's an employee of the Houston Rockets, he has to consult with his organization before making these rash decisions.

So why did he declare that he needs a microfracture surgery ? Under what basis did he come up with that conclusion? Which doctor suggested that he needs a microfracture surgery over other procedures? Why did he make this decision with consulting with Morey or Adelman? These are the questions you should be asking.

No team is stupid to play an injured player for an extensive amount of games. If McGrady needs a surgery, the Rockets and fans would have respected that decision under the condition that McGrady takes all the right steps to reach to the conclusion. However, he's failed that and as a result he has lost all credibility. Now how do you expect the Rockets to treat him respect when McGrady has betrayed their trust?

Man, you're totally lost. Most of these doctors that McGrady consulted with were not team doctors, so they have no association with the team. To say that the doctors were more interested in the Rockets is absurd; McGrady is their patient not the Rockets. Moreover, how can you say such thing when the team never knew about his decision to get these 2nd and 3rd opinions?

Also, don't forget that it was McGrady who decided that he'll play/sit out in certain games based on his condition. So really, McGrady was never a part of the organization because he took himself out.

That last lines sums it all up. He's given up on this team many times. (this coming from a player that admitted to not giving it his all in Orl when they weren't doing well) I know players don't bring it some games, but come on, what kind of dumba$$ admits to it. Now this? I seriously don't see how people can still defend him when it's very obvious he has bad character. He left his team out to dry...like a Marbury for those that lack the ability to understand words.
And this isn't his "2nd" opinion, this is probably his 7th-8th opinion and I don't think any real doctor could truly recommend that he absolutely needs "microfracture" surgery. He just doesn't hear what he wants and is searching for a doctor that will say he needs it. We need to let this baby go.

Why is everyone bitching? for those that are defending him to no avail? B/C he gets paid 20+ million dollars!!! IF this was someone on an A.Brooks salary, there would definitely not be this much discussion about it. He locks up our payroll big time and considering the state of the salary cap and luxury tax, it puts us in a big bind when trying to improve this team.

I'm glad that the Rox have enough leadership to get through this and I truly hope that better basketball will come from this team with Tmac gone. (At least better effort, I think)

[hackle]

We'd happily take a first round victory as a championship this year... anybody concurs