Raiders/Al Davis are insane

[bigkurty]

Seriously I love Nnamdi as a player and any interview with him makes you believe he is a great person too but can a CB ever be worth 45.3 million over 3 years? Also what is with the Raiders paying their punter 16 mil over 4 years. Both of those numbers seem completely ridiculous. For perspective, the highest paid players last year at those positions was Champ Bailey at 12.6 mil and get this Janikowski at 3 mil.

Al Davis is a moron.

[ReasonablySober]

He's the best CB in the league, but you're right, no CB in today's NFL is worth anything close to that.

[automatic44]

Didn't he also make Tommy Kelly the highest paid DT of all time a year ago?

[notoriousTJ11]

Didn't he also make Tommy Kelly the highest paid DT of all time a year ago?

Yea, and he gave that nice cushy deal to J-Walk, all of these moves seemed to have really helped them out. His next move should be to trade every single one of their draft picks for Matt Cassel

[MartyConlonOnTheRun]

I will admit I nothing about NFL salaries nor the 3/4 defense and what players you need where (as in size and strengths) but Hanyesworth looks really good at 9 mil a year, way better than a corner for 15.

If TT wasn't gm, would you go after haynesworth?

[MadCityBucky]

The guy is going to go and wants more than 9 million, if he was satisfied with 9 mil he would've resigned with the Titans, he's been living in Tennessee for a long time.

The guy wants to be paid more than Jared Allen (guy makes over 12 mill per year), and he'll probably receive offers that will exceed Allen's yearly salary.

[MrLynch07]

The Raiders are of my least favorite teams in the NFL, but I feel bad for Raiders fans Al Davis quite simply needs to just give this team to someone else. And I believe I read that Indy signed that Hayden fellow to a like 6 year 42 million dollar deal, in the last 2 seasons combined hes had what? 6 interceptions, CB's defintely get more than they deserve financially in this league.

[Ill-yasova]

The Raiders are of my least favorite teams in the NFL, but I feel bad for Raiders fans Al Davis quite simply needs to just give this team to someone else. And I believe I read that Indy signed that Hayden fellow to a like 6 year 42 million dollar deal, in the last 2 seasons combined hes had what? 6 interceptions, CB's defintely get more than they deserve financially in this league.

Interceptions are not a very good measure of a corner sometimes. You can't pick a pass off if nobody wants to throw it to your side.

And I've always thought corners don't make enough. A shutdown corner can take the other teams best receiver out of a game if he's playing man, or if he's playing zone he can pretty much take away a whole side of the field.

Also, probably about 60% of the sacks the packers had this year were coverage sacks.

[ReasonablySober]

Ten years ago I would have agreed with you, Ill-yasova. Now I don't know that having an elite CB really means a whole lot. Nandi is the best in the NFL and their pass defense was 20th. Denver has Champ Bailey and they were 32nd. The Packers had three Pro Bowlers and while they were in the top ten, Minnesota's pass defense was better and their defensive backfield is consider to be a weak link.

[Jollay]

Ten years ago I would have agreed with you, Ill-yasova. Now I don't know that having an elite CB really means a whole lot. Nandi is the best in the NFL and their pass defense was 20th. Denver has Champ Bailey and they were 32nd. The Packers had three Pro Bowlers and while they were in the top ten, Minnesota's pass defense was better and their defensive backfield is consider to be a weak link.

Of course I would argue that Champ Bailey is one of the most overrated players I've seen in the last 20 years, as well...

Its strange how the NFL has evolved. For some reason in the 90's one shutdown or at least top notch corner was needed to matchup with elite receivers, now, not so much.

I believe one reason is more spread-type and west coast offenses with multiple targets. Less elite receivers, maybe? Different defensive schemes and more zone? Don't know.

Anyway, this signing is ludicrous. 4yrs/40, half guaranteed is the limit I go for this guy, and even thats stretching it to the max, IMO.

[ReasonablySober]

I think you hit on it. The evolution of offenses have made it virtually impossible to effectively cover every target out there. Athletes are better, QBs are more mobile, runningbacks more versatile.

Bottom line is the pass rush. Everything else is just window dressing.

[Ayt]

Ten years ago I would have agreed with you, Ill-yasova. Now I don't know that having an elite CB really means a whole lot. Nandi is the best in the NFL and their pass defense was 20th. Denver has Champ Bailey and they were 32nd. The Packers had three Pro Bowlers and while they were in the top ten, Minnesota's pass defense was better and their defensive backfield is consider to be a weak link.

Of course I would argue that Champ Bailey is one of the most overrated players I've seen in the last 20 years, as well...

Its strange how the NFL has evolved. For some reason in the 90's one shutdown or at least top notch corner was needed to matchup with elite receivers, now, not so much.

I believe one reason is more spread-type and west coast offenses with multiple targets. Less elite receivers, maybe? Different defensive schemes and more zone? Don't know.

Anyway, this signing is ludicrous. 4yrs/40, half guaranteed is the limit I go for this guy, and even thats stretching it to the max, IMO.

The rules changes had a huge impact. We've played possibly the most aggressive man coverage of any team in the league the last few years, whereas in the past our type of coverage was the norm. The harder it is for DBs to cover, the more the defense has to try to pressure the QB to make up for it. The more aggressive the defenses become in terms of blitzing, the more offenses try to take advantage of it by spreading teams out creating one on one matchups outside that can lead to big gains or easy completions.

[SteveScheffler]

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