Alston traded in 3-Way

[jove9]

I started? Dude. Look back and see how this thing came about. You'll be surprised by what you might find.

I'm not going to go searching this forum for all the silly things you've said, because I honestly don't care that much. Besides, I'm sure everyone reading this can think of a time or two that you've made a complete fool of yourself. This alone makes my search all that much more of a waste of time.

Hey, if your life is so sad that you need to post 20k things on a forum to feel good about yourself, and you're truly upset that your "forum cred" is hurt, I really feel bad for you.

Cheer up, guy. It's just the internet. Turn off the computer and take a walk outside for once.

You might feel better.

Hmm...still can't find anything. You started it with your comment. So what now that I actually stopped playing with you little bitches and got back at some of the bull you say about me you wanna turtle like a little bitch. Comeon....man the hell up. And yea this is the internet and I am e-slapping the hell out of you. And I'm e-thuggin. Stop taking it and fight back.

You got nothing. You make claims saying that I don't make credible arguments yet you can't find one argument that I have made that wasn't superstitious that I was wrong on. I am rarely wrong. I know that. And I notice the little **** some of you have to say when I say outrageous things not knowing why I say them. So I took the time and I explained to you like I explained two years ago. Now all you can do is cower. You are a coward. Don't you ever come at me again without something to back up your claims. I will own you. You're a wannabe Iggy. Thats what you are. Find your own way.

Baby need a nap?

If I were as delirious as you are, I'd probably have myself committed.

Seriously, you've got some major self-esteem issues you've got to get worked out. Maybe daddy never told you he loved you as a child? No, don't tell me. Really. Don't tell me. I don't care to hear about your personal life.

Well, anyway, this is fun and all but I've really got to get stuff done for work. You know, that place off the computer???

Oh. Of course not.

Anyway, don't let my plans stop you! Oh, no. Let's see if you can get yourself suspended! By all means, carry on.

[HTown_TMac]

And at this point in time no one would guard Yao out there, so he would have more than enough time. He just needs some practice.

[Iggyemu]

You're an idiot.. We just **** our chemistry over. Lowry / AB can't defend and know our team plan. Rafer was the man when TCrack is out.. We have 0% chance now and will tank the season.. To be honest Rafer is probably the second most important piece behind Yao in what this team does at its best. We are done for the season and probably many more... No more winning record much less even going to the PlayOffs at this point.

Just saw this post directed at me and I think I should reply. Two things. Lowry is very good defender at the point guard. I know he plays for the Grizzles and nobody watches them but they play us 4 times a year every year. Comeon dude...watch more basketball. He isn't Rajon Rondo but he is better than Alston as a defender.

And in 07 we had the best chemistry of any team in the playoffs except the Spurs. Thats pretty high praise IMO. Chemistry doesn't win you playoff series. Talent and good play from at least 6 players does. Every playoff series we have gotten good play from 1 guy. McGrady. Alston, Battier, Yao have all been inconsistent in the two series against Dallas and Utah. Last year's Utah series doesn't count. I am not saying Lowry will lead to a playoff win...but chemistry is something that is overrated and underrated depending on the circumstance. When you lack talent but talk about chemistry...its overrated. For us..its overrated and Utah more than proved that 2 years ago.

[abcdef]

Morey said on the radio in one of his weekly interviews that Adelman and the coaches have abandoned the idea to put Yao at the high post. Even the man himself sees it. Apparently Morey has another thing coming too.

Morey also said we significantly upgraded our PG position today. We upgraded but by a very small margin. In other words....executives say what we want to hear. We want to hear that the coach is done tinkering as we enter the last 29 games of the season. We want to hear that Lowry and Brooks will hold down the PG position and lead us to a high seed.

Simply put you were wrong and I was right. I will continue to call you out until you concede that you were wrong. If Adelman himself has called off Yao at the high post, then I can safely claim victory. I will keep beating the dead horse because simply put I am right and I have no problem repeating things that are true.

Nope. Not yet. Nobody is here asking the man to be Brad Miller of Vlade Divac but some % of his touches have to come in the high post. He just isn't tough enough to bang possession after possession...especially come playoff time where someone softer than him in Okur eventually wore him down in a 7 game series. For us to be successful he has to learn to play in the high post. And I know he can do it. He has the skillset...he lacks the mental versatility and thats something Adelman can't help him with.

But Adelman will continue to try and get him to play some high post....he just has it on hold now b/c its time to stop experimenting. He'll try again this summer and in training camp. The man took the job b/c he felt Yao could play the high post effectively. A man doesn't change his tune when he sees Yao shoot 86% on the foul line. He know he can make the shots and the passes b/c its all mental with Yao.

Your little playoff argument doesn't even fly, because if something doesn't work in the regular season, it sure as hell won't work in the playoffs, and Yao at the high post was total failure in any game where it was tried.

Hmm...I never said that. I said if he doesn't get comfortable playing in the high post we won't go very far as a team because the playoffs are more physical and his past playoff appearances show that he can't deal with the physicality. Like I said....get back to me when we win a playoff series in which Yao only operates out of the low post. Because isn't that what we judge these arguments by. Can we win doing it the way we both suggest?

Basically all you have left is wishful thinking. Yao at the high post is something has been tried for a year and a half, has been a total failure, and now the coach has abandoned it. I guarantee you he will not pick it up next year. If Morey said that the coaching staff has abandoned the notion, then they probably did; there is no reason to make misleading statements on that issue unlike right after a trade. Every other team's scouting report has already picked up the same thing; notice how every time Yao shoots a midrange shot it is completely wide open (and usually misses).

What you have ignored is the fact that the Rockets CAN run a motion offense that gets everyone involved with Yao in the low post which has been demonstrated abundantly this season. If motion offense is what you want, this can work with Yao in the low post because he draws a double team and is very able and willing to make the right pass out of it.

I repeat what I said, if something doesn't work in the regular season, it definitely will not work in the playoffs. If Yao in the high post is a bad idea to start and has failed completely, then it will fail completely in the playoffs. Yao will never be comfortable playing in the high post, and if he tries to do it in the playoffs he will suck and the team will suffer. Simply put I am right and you are wrong, and I will keep beating this dead horse until you own up.

[Iggyemu]

Baby need a nap?

If I were as delirious as you are, I'd probably have myself committed.

Seriously, you've got some major self-esteem issues you've got to get worked out. Maybe daddy never told you he loved you as a child? No, don't tell me. Really. Don't tell me. I don't care to hear about your personal life.

Well, anyway, this is fun and all but I've really got to get stuff done for work. You know, that place off the computer???

Oh. Of course not.

Anyway, don't let my plans stop you! Oh, no. Let's see if you can get yourself suspended! By all means, carry on.

LOL you are embarrassing yourself. How can you make a claim that none of my arguments are legit....yet A) don't expect me to respond in a disgusted manner and B) don't ask you to back up your claim. You could play keyboard shrink all you want. But the fact of the matter is you are weak poster and a liability to this board. You are embarrassment to guys like abcdef who don't like me....like to argue with me....but actually come with legit arguments.

You just don't like me but you are too weak to come at me in any legit sense. So you make your little snide remarks in hopes that I look the other way b/c you are afraid that if you actually get called out on em that you'll have to actually come up with something intelligent to post. What's your masters degree in? Cosmetology? Has to be b/c you are the least intelligent individual holding a high level degree that I have ever seen. You are a coward. You want to throw things out there about me and not back them up...thats a straight up bitch move. And as far as suspension....well if thats what happens thats what happens. I can't control Vator and KR but I am defending myself. If thats the price then thats the price. Still doesn't change the fact that you are a coward and bitch for making such a bold claim about me and not even taking the time to back it up.

Instead you make silly posts like the one above in which you try to side-step everything. Man up you are a coward and every post you make I'll reply to you as coward from now on. And when ppl ask why I call you that...if they care to ask....I'll tell em.

[ShaY]

I like this trade a lot , Kyle can drive and kick out , he can really defend and is athletic and Alston couldn't shoot anyway.

[YaoZaii]

I think everyone is entitled to their own opinions.
I like Iggy's posts... Funny and superstitious: we all know he kids quite a bit.
But he comes out with pretty good points most of the time.
Personally, I rank his basketball knowledge pretty high (from what i read)

I have always agreed with him that Alston needs to leave and i'm glad that it happened. Why?

1. No more 3pt bricklaying from alston
2. No more bonehead plays from alston
3. No more "why don't you pass the ball to Yao u selfish nut?" play from alston
4. No more teardrops from Alston
5. Most importantly, no more rockets fans moaning about alston's play

Since this team is not going anywhere at this point of time - why not give Brooks or Lowry a chance to show that they are the real deal? We already know what alston can do... but brooks and lowry still remain a work-in-progress. True, it can backfire on us but i'm willing to try... At worst, we can have Barry helping the point a bit.

[Baller 24]

You guys are going to love Kyle Lowry, he's explosive on the fast freak, he knows how to handle the ball, he's a fantastic defender, and he knows VERY well how to get to the hole and FINISH. I'm going to like it.

[ShaY]

I liked Lowry ever since I saw him play in college , he is fierce and a winner.

I am sure too everybody here will like him more than Rafer , I hope he can improve his shot a lttile bit in the future maybe.

[moofs]

Sigh. This is a mess. Ok!

Morey said on the radio in one of his weekly interviews that Adelman and the coaches have abandoned the idea to put Yao at the high post. Even the man himself sees it. Apparently Morey has another thing coming too.

Simply put you were wrong and I was right. I will continue to call you out until you concede that you were wrong. If Adelman himself has called off Yao at the high post, then I can safely claim victory. I will keep beating the dead horse because simply put I am right and I have no problem repeating things that are true.

Your little playoff argument doesn't even fly, because if something doesn't work in the regular season, it sure as hell won't work in the playoffs, and Yao at the high post was total failure in any game where it was tried.

I think you're actually jiving with Iggy, even you don't seem to realize it.

Iggy says that we won't have any playoff success with Yao unless he can learn to play in the high post. This can be agreed with. You're saying that Yao can't play in the high post. This also can be agreed with. This means that our team is going to have trouble with postseason success with Yao as (one of) our primary player(s), which is something that I've said for several years. (McGrady has the same problem, ...and Artest might have the same problem, but at any rate he is not as dynamic to the game as the other two) That Iggy is saying we can't win without Yao being able to play in the high post, doesn't mean he CAN play in the high post, but unless I missed it, Iggy isn't saying that. As long as that's the case, you're in agreement.

Fun argument between jove and iggy too, had no idea you had a masters or did CS, igg. Nifty. I mean, you're wrong all the time, but as you said, it's usually intentional, which is lost on a lot of people a lot of the time (including myself, and I even realize that you do it intentionally)

On the bad shot scale it is somewhere around McGrady heat-check and Alston floater.

Agreeeeeeedd! Worse, it leaves him out of offensive rebounding position.

Well this thread has certainly taken a giant crap on itself.

Basically all you have left is wishful thinking.

That's not quite right. I don't know how to explain it without using a ton of words and making no sense, so try rereading.

[realfung]

go alson

[tisbee]

After a season when I've been wrong on quite a bit (paper does NOT taste like chicken!),nice to see a prediction I made back when we first started talking about Brooks starting. I said the Rockets would have to trade Alston if Brooks became the starter,and TA-DA!

[Amel]

is it 3pm yet

[Vator]

This thread is locked pending further investigation...

Yeah I liked how official that sounded.

Warnings/suspensions are needed, but I'm a little wrapped up at the moment.

I'll start a new thread and strongly suggest the bickering stop here.