spolgar wrote:compucomp wrote:
How does it make you feel that
1. Your pathetic anti-Olympic protests were squished by loyal Chinese everywhere in Europe and America. Our guys outnumbered yours 10 to 1.
2. The Olympics went off went without problems and were a huge success despite your terroristic intentions to ruin them.
3. Hillary Clinton just went to China and said that "human rights can't interfere with the global economic crisis, the global climate change crisis and the security crisis." In short, this means that your pathetic agenda has been placed on the backburner and ignored by your overlords the Americans, in favor of real issues that people actually care about.
Basically you have failed utterly and your overlords have abandoned you. How does that make you feel?
1. Well compucomp, I didn't know you were part of a large coalition to PR China for the Olympics. Is that the same coalition to get Yi to be an all star, or were you just personally batting less than 1000? Anyhow, when was the last time communities around the world opposed one country from hosting the Olympics? I don't recall anybody getting that treatment. In 1980 the U.S. boycotted the Olympics, but it was mostly a governmental decision. This one was all community, an unorchestrated worldwide grass roots thing. Just because there are more Chinese people jumping up and down does not make the concerned go away.
2. The Olympics went off without a hitch? You mean except for the medal scandal with the two 14 year old gymnasts that some french dude google wacked an excel file from a web server on the Chinese Athletics Committee? Then what happened after the Olympics? oh the entire China Stock Market crashed. Seems like China should've been putting more attention into saving themselves from Piss Poor American Assets instead of shoving massive resources in a massive PR campaign about how great China is. Also, China is the second largest military power in the world. It is within the top 5 in the GDP earnings. Being able to pull off a sporting event, whilst taking a national effort is something Greece and Australia did within the last 10 years, countries with far less money and clout. China should have had no problems doing that. I also never ever recalled stating that China would have financial or infrastructure issues in my arguments. My arguments stem from the lack of Human Rights in China, and that it was inconsistent of the IOC to give China a moment to shine whilst boycotting South Africa during Apartheid.
3. Hillary Clinton just went to China to do whatever she has to do to get China to raise the value of the Yuan without killing the American Dollar by selling all the fed bonds that China bought to keep their exchange rates with the US Dollar constant. (The chilling effect of that is, that by buying bonds from the fed you keep fed interest rates across the board low, including banks. Aside from the mortgage crisis, this basically killed all possibility of monetary policy in the United States for the next 10 years. No it's not only China's fault. It takes two to tango.) It's a difficult problem, and most sensible people would rather they stuck to one difficult problem that is more urgenet, rather than two.
Last but not least, I don't have an overlord. I worship no nation. They don't deserve it. Failure? I opined, very very gently if you don't recall, about U.S. foreign policy. Being that June 4th was around that time I was probably not in the nicest of moods pertaining to China.
You have such a complex about being Chinese it is absolutely hilarious. I don't recall an election anywhere anytime where people elected you to be a spoke person. I guess I just don't understand overly patriotic people. China is a beautiful place, its people one of the most diverse, and yes it's not perfect, just like everywhere else. I never proclaimed American to be Paradise, I don't know where you get that from. But yes, you like starting fights with me, so just so you know, I'm game. You remember how it went the last time we went rounds?
1. If you love "democracy" then clearly you respect the will of the majority, and it was obvious on the ground that our guys outnumbered yours 10 to 1, so clearly the vast majority opinion on the ground during the torch proceeding was pro-China. So we are all drones and your guys are all "concerned individuals"? Hypocrisy much? You are learning much from your American overlords, that's an old American trick.
2. You tried your damnedest to ruin the Olympics with protests and terrorist activities and we foiled all of your plots. Bottom line is that you failed at your attempt to humiliate China. You wanted a Munich 1972 repeat and didn't get it because our security forces and people were on the ball and snuffed out your pitiful ploys.
3. You could not be more wrong about American monetary policy; Clinton wants China to buy MORE T-Bonds and Treasury bills and to above all not call in all of their debts. They need more credit to fund the stimulus and other deficit spending measures, and China is where they're getting the money. Simply put Clinton said she is willing to shelve human rights in order to deal with the real issues that China and the US need to work together to solve.
Your venture to ruin the Olympics failed and your overlords have abandoned you, indicating that "human rights" are a non-issue to be put aside in favor of real issues that people care about. How does that make you feel?
The only reason you won the flame war was because I got banned, and the only reason I was banned was because the refs here are on your side. So don't feel too proud of yourself.
