Celtics offered Miki Moore a contract!

[DelMonte West]

...typical Celticsblog "sky is falling, why couldn't we get player x instead?" kneejerk reaction.

[MyInsatiableOne]

...typical Celticsblog "sky is falling, why couldn't we get player x instead?" kneejerk reaction.

And true...which is why I never post over there!

[kakopedi1]

Instead of making comparisons with Joe Smith, I want to know how much of a drop-off Moore is from P.J. Brown - both veterans with length and a jumpshot.

I am always amazed at how much some people here overvalue what PJ was last year. Yes he hit that game winner in game 7 against the Cavs and played some great D in the Finals, but he was not *the* reason we won...

Let's wait and see if Moore does anything...

Without that game winner in game 7 against the Cavs the Cs would not have won the championship so to he wasn't "the" reason why we won I think your wrong. He was the reason why we made it to the finals. PJ Brown was a big part of this team last season so much so that most of the players say they miss him over Posey.

Yea, and lets not forget the defense PJ played against Lebron we were up 3 and PJ forced Bron to take a tough jumper and missed.

I only hope Miki can play like PJ did.

[Joekickass2008]

MIkki will be an energy guy for us....we have been a lil up and down energy wise this season, dcespite some great games. We have had our share of laclustre games...his signing is, in my opinion, is about not missing the boat like we have on a few other free agents, giving us some legit height off the bench and increasing energy...

I agree with the poster who said they are concerned about Joe Smiths desires....he has done nothing so far this season or the last few to make me think he is a winner, or wants to be one. Mikki at least has demonstrated desire in the past...

This is providing we do sign him off course.

[klemen4]

Energy, hustling, personality, pride...

I think he wants it more than Joe and that is important thing.

Undrafted, played in Dleague...it wasnt easy for him and I think he will give everything and more

[campybatman]

So, who's minutes are compromised in favor of Moore? He isn't a better player than Powe, Davis or Scalabrine. A below average rebounder, shot blocker and overall defender. Camby he's not. He brings next to nothing to the table by comparison to the aforementioned Celtic players. Energy? Rondo has plenty of that already. And some players (Davis, Powe and House) from the bench offer it too if only they played more consistently.

Moore gives you some hustle and he has length but lacks strength to slow down the likes of Howard, Ilgauskas, Horford or R. Wallace. These are possible (playoff) opponents at center that he might be asked to guard when Perkins rest.

But, I agree, the aggressive approach to signing Moore has more to do with not setting yourself up to miss out on an opportunity to sign a player you know other teams have an interest in signing as well. I'm certain if Smith were available at the same time.

[Avalanche]

i think there is time for all 4 of Davis, Powe, Scal and Moore.. depending on the game and match up

I think he works well with either Davis or Powe up front

[campybatman]

First, Garnett's lost indefinitely. But, then Scalabrine returns from being out. Now Scalabrine could be out (again) depending on the severity of his latest injury. And you've the addition of Moore. The timing of these events are ironic.

[Banks2Pierce]

Ok, here we go.

Mikki is actually great at shooting jumpers. A step inside the 3 pt line and he is still comfortable. That is where he got a ton of looks with NJ and hit at a very, very good clip. It wasn't necessarily JKidd setting him up for these looks. It was the talented offense in NJ and Mikki became the benefit of a lot of open looks. Gee, you think he might get the same thing in Boston?

He is really fast. Will give Big Z and any other slow bigs a fit. He is as fast baseline to baseline as guards are with his long strides. Not necessarily laterally.

Decent right hook when he has good position.

Doesn't have that shot bloker gene in him , but he comes close to a lot. Alters a bunch of shots in the team defensive scheme.

Hustles all over the court. I can see him quickly becoming loved in Boston.

Think he might be our 5 offensively in crunch time situations. Him or Baby, depending on who's hot. Just can't rely on Perk and his FT shooting for offensive situations. Do like Perk for O rebs, depending on scenario.

[Larry Joe Bird]

Agent says Moore still undecided

[campybatman]

Yes, it's probably too quick to label this a done deal that he's signing with Boston. And he and agent did hold off on a decision and now you hear that other teams could offer more than Boston. I say, he chooses Boston but it might be more about the best financial opportunity for him as oppose to which team offers the best opportunity to win a championship. Remember, Hill thought he'd made the right choice and he didn't chose Boston prior to last season. For Boston, Moore's decision could prove to be a fortunate turn of event should he decide not to pick in favor of Boston. Depends. I'm still not entirely sold on him as a viable option/solution for the Celtics. If he's signing here. As a fan, you can only try to see his possible positives. What I'm curious about is if he signs elsewhere. What's plan C for Ainge? Plan A presumingly was Joe Smith.

[Larry Joe Bird]

If the Celtics sign Moore does this rule out Joe Smith as some reports have claimed during the past several hours? Is it possible for the Celtics to sign Moore, Smith and Marbury?

[campybatman]

I think Ainge is still hoping that Smith is bought out by Sunday. But, he won't hold his breathe. I'm curious to why Smith is seemingly shunning a chance to join a contending team this season.

The one thing I'll say about Moore. He wants to play here. I just hope that his enthusiasm for wanting to be here can translate similarly on the court. It'll be interesting to see whether or not he plays some tomorrow. I read that Cassell is working out in Los Angeles and will be attending this game.

Perhaps, teams around the league are beginning to feel indifferent to the thought that a resolution will ever come involving New York and Marbury knowing that Boston is high on Marbury's list. In other words, their interest in signing him might be for naught.

[Celtsfan1980]

From what I remember, the Celtics were up by a point when PJ hit his shot to make it 3. I don't recall it being a game-winner. I remember he was 4-for-4 and did hit an important shot, but it was Pierce's 40+ points that carried the team. Ray Allen was in a horrible shooting slump throughout the whole series including before and after. I expect Allen to be much better and Rondo is improved, so it is a much different team than the one in the Cavs series. The Cavs are a much better team as well. I liked PJ, but I definitely feel people are overrating him a bit. Different teams, different season, so it is not really an issue IMO.

[MyInsatiableOne]

From what I remember, the Celtics were up by a point when PJ hit his shot to make it 3. I don't recall it being a game-winner. I remember he was 4-for-4 and did hit an important shot, but it was Pierce's 40+ points that carried the team. Ray Allen was in a horrible shooting slump throughout the whole series including before and after. I expect Allen to be much better and Rondo is improved, so it is a much different team than the one in the Cavs series. The Cavs are a much better team as well. I liked PJ, but I definitely feel people are overrating him a bit. Different teams, different season, so it is not really an issue IMO.

Exactly what I said yesterday...let's see if Moore can approximate it, but PJ was no savior, he was just a solid bench guy...

[GuyClinch]

So, who's minutes are compromised in favor of Moore? He isn't a better player than Powe, Davis or Scalabrine. A below average rebounder, shot blocker and overall defender. Camby he's not. He brings next to nothing to the table by comparison to the aforementioned Celtic players. Energy? Rondo has plenty of that already. And some players (Davis, Powe and House) from the bench offer it too if only they played more consistently.

His minutes will come at the expense of either Powe or Davis with KG out. Moore might be a below average shot blocker for a CENTER. But he is a threat to block shots - that's something that Powe, Davis and Scalabrine basically don't do at all. He averaged a block a game just a year ago - and had a block percentage of 2.3% which well above what our little bigs do.

For Doc I believe Moore will be a luxury. he will function much like a KG "light" in our offense. What does KG do - he hustles on D like crazy. he plays great help defense. He blocks some shots (3.2 block percentage). He gets open spots and hits Js. he throws dunks down around the rim.

Moore can do the same thing. Let Davis or Powe try to keep guys off their spots and let Moore help out like KG does with help D. Can Moore hit the jumper like KG - yes (albeit not as well). Can he finish like KG around the rim (yes). Granted not as well as KG but much better then Big Baby Davis or even Powe (who often relies on contact).

So throw him in the second unit as a "PF" and he can basically be a KG light. Since KG will play like 40 minutes in the playoffs probably he won't see a ton of time. But with Moore we can run the same kinds of schemes on offense and defense...

Plus did I mention he WANTS to play for the Cs. And he was here before. I think we should be a bit more excited about this signing. Our bench has some pretty weak players (just look at the numbers sometime - yes TA might be our best bench player by the numbers). Mikki Moore can absolutely help.

Will he end up first big off the bench or an "emergency" guy - time will tell. I think with his skill set he could really surprise people..

[MyInsatiableOne]

^We shall see...

[SLCceltic]

Moore is a varajflop equalizer and a solid 7fter to help out in certain matchups
plus energy, energy, and energy
He is relentless and has played well everywhere he has played
His play has hurt us over the years-----reminds me so much of Varajass

He is a role player like House, both great for deep playoff runs; but expendable for non-contenders
Thats why they bounce around so much
I hope Moore stays with us as long as we are contending

[ryaningf]

So, who's minutes are compromised in favor of Moore? He isn't a better player than Powe, Davis or Scalabrine. A below average rebounder, shot blocker and overall defender. Camby he's not. He brings next to nothing to the table by comparison to the aforementioned Celtic players. Energy? Rondo has plenty of that already. And some players (Davis, Powe and House) from the bench offer it too if only they played more consistently.

His minutes will come at the expense of either Powe or Davis with KG out. Moore might be a below average shot blocker for a CENTER. But he is a threat to block shots - that's something that Powe, Davis and Scalabrine basically don't do at all. He averaged a block a game just a year ago - and had a block percentage of 2.3% which well above what our little bigs do.

For Doc I believe Moore will be a luxury. he will function much like a KG "light" in our offense. What does KG do - he hustles on D like crazy. he plays great help defense. He blocks some shots (3.2 block percentage). He gets open spots and hits Js. he throws dunks down around the rim.

Moore can do the same thing. Let Davis or Powe try to keep guys off their spots and let Moore help out like KG does with help D. Can Moore hit the jumper like KG - yes (albeit not as well). Can he finish like KG around the rim (yes). Granted not as well as KG but much better then Big Baby Davis or even Powe (who often relies on contact).

So throw him in the second unit as a "PF" and he can basically be a KG light. Since KG will play like 40 minutes in the playoffs probably he won't see a ton of time. But with Moore we can run the same kinds of schemes on offense and defense...

Plus did I mention he WANTS to play for the Cs. And he was here before. I think we should be a bit more excited about this signing. Our bench has some pretty weak players (just look at the numbers sometime - yes TA might be our best bench player by the numbers). Mikki Moore can absolutely help.

Will he end up first big off the bench or an "emergency" guy - time will tell. I think with his skill set he could really surprise people..

Good breakdown, Pete. My favorite thing about Moore is that he's a hustle/energy guy who could come in and give the team 3-5 minute lifts purely through energy plays--getting offensive boards, getting out on the break, etc... He can be a real irritant as well, and that will be useful come playoff time. We don't have to run plays for him and he's a decent end-of-the-shot-clock option on the perimeter if needed. He should also fit into the team defense nicely, especially blitzing the pick-and-roll. I don't think he's going to play more than 10 minutes a game, but I think he can have a real impact in those 10 minutes.

As for the KG-lite comparison...Moore's hands aren't so good. Also, I think we'll see him more at center than PF.

[campybatman]

Now this is interesting...

Within the Cavs organization, Smith was a popular player. The team didn't particularly want to trade him, but it had to give up somebody to get somebody, and who could quibble with bringing Mo Williams here in that deal?

Mikki Moore appears to be off the table with an offer from the Boston Celtics and several other teams, the Boston Globe reported.

A source close to that situation said Moore has received no interest from the Cavaliers.

With Smith saying he wants to stay put, where does that leave the Cavs? With an intriguing option, according to a league source: former San Antonio Spur Robert Horry.

http://www.ohio.com/sports/40188707.html