Free agent rights

[MilMinMan]

I think I posted a topic on this a while ago, but I can't find it and the egosearch hasn't worked for ages.

I was wondering if anyone had any info on which free agents rights are currently retained by teams? Last time I didn't get much response, so I figured something to respond to might help. Here's what I've got now, any info would be greatly appreciated:

Atlanta
Josh Childress

Boston
Dana Barros
PJ Brown
Grant Long
Roshown McLeod
Michael Olowokandi
Scot Pollard

Charlotte
Derek Anderson
Earl Boykins
Othella Harrington

Chicago
Michael Sweetney

Cleveland
Billy Thomas

Dallas
Johnny Newman
Kevin Willis
Vernon Maxell
Walt Williams

Denver
Wesley Person

Detroit
Dale Davis
Danny Manning
Don Reid
Tony Delk
Victor Alexander

Golden State
Chris Webber

Houston
Jake Tsakalidis
Maciej Lampe

Indiana
Andre Owens
LaSalle Thompson
Rik Smits
Terry Mills
Tim Hardaway
Tyus Edney
Zan Tabak

LA Clippers

LA Lakers
Ira Newble
Brian Shaw
Horace Grant
John Salley
Karl Malone
Mitch Richmond
Ron Harper
Shammond Williams

Memphis
Juan Carlos Navarro

Miami
Kasib Powell
Alonzo Mourning
Earl Barron
Christian Laettner
Gary Payton
John Wallace
Shandon Anderson
Zhi-zhi Wang

Milwaukee
David Noel
Ersan Ilyasova

Minnesota
Kirk Snyder
Latrell Sprewell
Michael Doleac
Oliver Miller
Sam Mitchell

New Jersey
Darrell Armstrong
Bostjan Nachbar
Gheorghe Muresan
Hubert Davis
Sherman Douglas
Travis Best

New Orleans
Bonzi Wells
Jannero Pargo
Marc Jackson

New York
Andrew Lang
Bruno Sundov
Felton Spencer
Kelvin Cato

Oklahoma City
Mickael Gelabale
Danny Fortson
Randy Livingston

Orlando
Pat Garrity
Carlos Arroyo
Rashard Griffith

Philadelphia

Phoenix
Eric Piatkowski
Gordan Giricek
Jalen Rose

Portland
Chris Dudley
Detlef Schrempf
Voshon Lenard

Sacramento
Brent Price
Corliss Williamson
Vitaly Potapenko

San Antonio
Damon Stoudamire
Robert Horry
Glenn Robinson
Nick Van Exel

Toronto
Carlos Delfino
Darrick Martin
Primoz Brezec

Utah
Greg Ostertag

Washington
Anthony Peeler
Chris Whitney

[lakerfan10770]

Your list looks pretty complete to me (I have only been keeping track of this for about a year), the only ones I noticed are:

Loren Woods was signed for the remainder of the season by the Rockets last year and as far as I know he hasn't done anything since (at least not in the NBA).

Just thinking out loud, but since the Warriors were well under the cap last year, I would assume that they renounced Chris Webber, perhaps not

Didn't Alonzo Mourning retire on 1-22-09, not sure how we would know if he officially turned in his "retirement papers" to the league though

[Three34]

Gaps, as far as I can tell:

Boston - Mark Bryant
Charlotte - Alan Anderson
Chicago - Martynas Andriuskevicius, Andre Barrett
Cleveland don't have the rights to Billy Thomas because he had an unguaranteed contract for this season and was waived.
Detroit - Wesley Person, Will Blalock, Elden Campbell, Horace Jenkins
Golden State don't have Webber because they had cap space.
Houston - Torraye Braggs, Mark Jackson
Indiana - Lari Ketner, Brent Scott
L.A. Lakers - Jim Jackson
Miami - Bimbo Coles
Milwaukee doesn't have Noel because he signed with the Clippers for training camp this year.
Minnesota - Sam Jacobson, Andrae Patterson, Bracey Wright
New Jersey - Rodney Buford, Jack Haley, Donny Marshall, Jabari Smith, John Thomas, Derrick Zimmerman
New York - Larry Robinson, Qyntel Woods
Rashard Griffith never signed a contract with Orlando and so they technically still own his draft rights instead.
Portland - Luke Schenscher
Toronto - Uros Slokar

[Three34]

Woods was like Thomas and had an unguaranteed deal for this year too, so he had to go through waivers and thus doesn't count.

[lakerfan10770]

Now here's the real challenge, what is the "free agent amount" of each of these players?

Not that it really matters, because these guys will all be renounced once their respective teams can get cap space. And isn't it nice to know that a majority of these guys will be off our spreadsheets in the summer of 2010, when a bunch of teams are aiming for and will have cap space. (at least the 9 guys on Detroit will be gone this summer)

[MilMinMan]

@Sham isn't wesley person on denver's list, not detroit's?

@lakerfan10770 can't WAIT to get these guys off my spreadsheets. felt pretty good to do it for philly and the clips this past summer

[lakerfan10770]

I obviously haven't been keeping track of this stuff as long as you guys, but one source that is helping me to somewhat sort this out is prosportstransactions.com. And for Wesley Person the last activity shown is that he was signed by the Nuggets 3-3-05 to what I assume was a vet min contract for the remainder of the season. (the Heat also used the amnesty clause on his waived contract). So basically, unless there is a missing transaction, his free agent rights should still be held by Denver.

[Three34]

Yeah, that's a typo on the Person.

[Three34]

Also, Barrett got re-signed and waived by the Bulls in a transaction that I forgot about, so he's not on there either.

[MilMinMan]

thank you both.

@lakerfan i LOVE prosportstransactions.com

i might spend more time there than i do in gmail... maybe.

sham, you're a gentleman (in some sort of bizarre alternate universe) and a scholar (in that same universe) and i greatly appreciate your help, both active and passive

[Three34]

Here's my futile attempt at this.

http://www.shamsports.com/content/pages ... ements.jsp

[MilMinMan]

As always Sham, thanks for your info.

[MilMinMan]

Any updates to the list?

Also, do summer league contracts strip free agent rights? (e.g. Robert Swift and Michael Sweetney playing for Boston)

[Three34]

1) I'm partway through it.
2) No.

[MilMinMan]

Thanks Sham.

Also, lakerfan, I've done my best to get all the free agent amounts for this offseason. My spreadsheets (which are largely lifted from Sham and then reformatted and reorganized for my own liking) are here: http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key= ... utput=html

[Three34]

I'm adding YOU to my list of people-who-steal-my-info-just-to-put-it-elsewhere-on-the-web-that-I'm going-to-murder-next-time-there's-a-full-moon-and-I-go-out-killing. It's quite a long list, even longer than the title, so you still have time to escape to Guadeloupe.

[MilMinMan]

If you could please sort said list first by those who don't attribute your work and then in descending order of their traffic, that would ensure a long and healthy life for me.

It would all just be a lot easier if you auto-forwarded all your insider emails directly to me.

[MilMinMan]

Also, it looks like you might need to update the calculations for the Bulls, Cavs, Nets, Sixers, and Blazers. And, re-sort the Celtics, Nets, and Blazers.

I figured that having the time you spent updating these at a nice round 24 hours would be much better for impressing women over a pint of warm Boddington's than something like 22.

No need to cite or thank, your ire is payment enough.

[Three34]

Finished the renouncements list. You may now go through and correct my typos.

[MilMinMan]

Tell you what Sham: since it seems like you don't like the input, I'll knock it off. Thanks, as always, for sharing your info.