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Re: GM a Team: Free Agency Thread 

Post#81 » by arvydas1221 » Wed Feb 25, 2009 2:04 am

Sacramento has signed Marvin Williams to an offer sheet
Yr 1 13,095,238
Yr 2 12,047,619
Yr 3 11,000,000
Yr 4 9,952,380
Yr 5 8,904,761

Modern_epic wrote:The decreases allowed in a contract follow the same formula as the increases, so no, neither of those are allowed.


yr 1 13,095,238
yr 2 13,095,238 dived by 1.08 = 12.125,220
yr 3 13,095,238 dived by 1.16 = 11,288,998
yr 4 13,095,238 dived by 1.24 = 10,560,675
yr 5 13,095,238 dived by 1.32 = 9,920,634

therefor i believe this signing is invalid
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Re: GM a Team: Free Agency Thread 

Post#82 » by nba_addict » Wed Feb 25, 2009 2:27 am

Suns have reach an agreement to 16th pick Jeff Teague.

Yr1: 1,328,400
Yr2: 1,428,000
Yr3: 1,527,600 Team Option
Yr4: 2,343,338 Team Option
Yr5: 3,290,390 Qualifying Offer
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Re: GM a Team: Free Agency Thread 

Post#83 » by Mascot » Wed Feb 25, 2009 2:39 am

actually I dont think it would matter....he should be able to give him any salary in decrease mode...the .08 is only for players with a certain amount of experience and a max contract?

not sure on this though
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Re: GM a Team: Free Agency Thread 

Post#84 » by skorff26 » Wed Feb 25, 2009 2:46 am

arvydas1221 wrote:Sacramento has signed Marvin Williams to an offer sheet
Yr 1 13,095,238
Yr 2 12,047,619
Yr 3 11,000,000
Yr 4 9,952,380
Yr 5 8,904,761

Modern_epic wrote:The decreases allowed in a contract follow the same formula as the increases, so no, neither of those are allowed.


yr 1 13,095,238
yr 2 13,095,238 dived by 1.08 = 12.125,220
yr 3 13,095,238 dived by 1.16 = 11,288,998
yr 4 13,095,238 dived by 1.24 = 10,560,675
yr 5 13,095,238 dived by 1.32 = 9,920,634

therefor i believe this signing is invalid

Are you sure that it's divided by 1.08; or is it multiplied by 0.92 which is what was originally done for the signing.

13,095,238 x 0.08 (8%) = 1,047,619 (that's an 8% decrease from year 1 to year 2)
13,095,238 - 1,047,619 = 12,047,619 (which agrees with the contract that he has been offered in the first place)

-Another way to look at it is when you multiply by 1.08 for an increase; you are multiplying the contract x (1.08/1; which is 8%)
-But when you divide; ( and you multiply by 0.92, contract x 0.92/1, which is -8%; but if you divide the contract by 1.08, you get contract x 1/1.08, which is about 7.4%)
-I'm not 100% certain either way, but that's how we got the salaries for the signing.

I looked at Ronny Turiaf's contract on shamsports.com; 08/09 = 4,500,000; and 09/10 = 4,140,000
4,500,000 x 0.92 = 4,140,000
4,500,000/1.08 = 4,166,667
-So I think that multiplying it by 0.92 is correct since it works for Turiaf's contract; and if we were to divide by 1.08 than Turiaf would have signed an illegal deal since it would be more than an 8% decrease.
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Re: GM a Team: Free Agency Thread 

Post#85 » by Duncanfan » Wed Feb 25, 2009 4:14 pm

Guys, if anyone of you know if a team matching another teams offer for its RFA can adjust the salary structure essentially giving the player the same money over the same time period but different salary districution over the years?

e.g. Team A signs player X to an offer sheet of

4 mill
4.5 mill
5 mill
5.5 mill
6 mill
total 25 mill

could the RFA's original team match the offer but change the terms to something like:

5 mill
5 mill
5 mill
5 mill
5 mill
total 25 mill

Thanks guys!
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Re: GM a Team: Free Agency Thread 

Post#86 » by skorff26 » Wed Feb 25, 2009 4:54 pm

Duncanfan wrote:Guys, if anyone of you know if a team matching another teams offer for its RFA can adjust the salary structure essentially giving the player the same money over the same time period but different salary districution over the years?

e.g. Team A signs player X to an offer sheet of

4 mill
4.5 mill
5 mill
5.5 mill
6 mill
total 25 mill

could the RFA's original team match the offer but change the terms to something like:

5 mill
5 mill
5 mill
5 mill
5 mill
total 25 mill

Thanks guys!

viewtopic.php?f=4&t=885423

I asked on the CBA board and here's the response; so no you can't change the offer sheet.
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Re: GM a Team: Free Agency Thread 

Post#87 » by SamBone » Wed Feb 25, 2009 4:57 pm

Duncanfan wrote:Guys, if anyone of you know if a team matching another teams offer for its RFA can adjust the salary structure essentially giving the player the same money over the same time period but different salary districution over the years?

e.g. Team A signs player X to an offer sheet of

4 mill
4.5 mill
5 mill
5.5 mill
6 mill
total 25 mill

could the RFA's original team match the offer but change the terms to something like:

5 mill
5 mill
5 mill
5 mill
5 mill
total 25 mill

Thanks guys!


No you can not, that is how teams can prevent the other team to match. If the new team front loads the deal, it is difficult for the old team to match because of the cap.
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Re: GM a Team: Free Agency Thread 

Post#88 » by skorff26 » Wed Feb 25, 2009 5:32 pm

The Los Angeles Lakers have signed Michael Finley with their bi-annual exception
year 1 $1,990,000
-Finley wanted to compete for a title, and the Lakers are the only team that made him an offer, thus he goes for the most money and to a title contender.

Orlando Magic have signed Anthony Parker with their MLE (Orlando has 719,000 left on their MLE)
Year 1 - 5,100,000
Year 2 - 5,508,000
Year 3 - 5,916,000
Year 4 - 5,500,000 (team option)]
-AP feels that he could be the missing piece for Orlando.

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Re: GM a Team: Free Agency Thread 

Post#89 » by skorff26 » Thu Feb 26, 2009 4:27 am

The Clippers have matched the salary that was offered to Charlie Villaneuva

The Toronto Raptors have used their MLE to sign Chris Wilcox
Year 1: 5,819,000
Year 2: 6,284,520
Year 3: 6,750,040
Year 4: 7,215,560
Year 5: 7,681,080

Utah has matched the offer for Paul Millsap

The New York Knicks have used their bi-annual exception to sign Morris Almond
Year 1: 1,990,000

Phoenix has resigned Matt Barnes
Year 1 - 6,000,000
Year 2 - 6,000,000
Year 3 - 6,000,000
Year 4 - 6,000,000
Year 5 - 6,000,000
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Re: GM a Team: Free Agency Thread 

Post#90 » by skorff26 » Thu Feb 26, 2009 1:23 pm

The San Antonio Spurs have extended an offer sheet to restricted free agent Francisco Garcia, Golden State can match it
Year 1: 5,819,000
Year 2: 6,284,520
Year 3: 6,750,040
Year 4: 7,215,560
Year 5: 7,681,080

The San Antonio Spurs have signed Malik Rose to a veteran's minimum deal
Year 1 - 1,306,455
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Re: GM a Team: Free Agency Thread 

Post#91 » by skorff26 » Fri Feb 27, 2009 2:20 am

New York signs Joe Smith for the MLE
Year 1 - 5,819,000

Golden State does NOT match the offer for Francisco Garcia; Francisco Garcia is now a Spur

Oklahoma City has signed Nenad Krstic to an offer sheet, New Jersey can match
Year 1: $5,000,000
Year 2: $5,500,000 (Team Option)
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Re: GM a Team: Free Agency Thread 

Post#92 » by skorff26 » Fri Feb 27, 2009 10:34 pm

Memphis has signed Mikki Moore to a contract
Year 1 - 2,000,000
Year 2 - 2,000,000

Washington has signed Robert Swift to a contract
Year 1 - 855,189

LInas Kleiza has agreed to resign with Philadelphia
Year 1: $3,500,000
Year 2: $3,750,000
Year 3: $4,000,000
Year 4: $4,250,000
Year 5: $4,500,000
Year 6 $5,000,000 (team option)

Los Angeles Clippers have used their bi-annual exception to sign Von Wafer
Year 1: 1.99 million
Year 2: 2.00 million

Denver has signed Zaza Pachulia with their bi-annual exception
Year 1: 1,990,000
Year 2: 1,990,000

Golden State has used the rest of their MLE to sign Jamario Moon to an offer sheet, toronto can match
Year 1 - 2,819,000
Year 2 - 3,000,000
Year 3 - 3,000,000

New Jersey has matched the contract offer for Nenad Krstic.
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Re: GM a Team: Free Agency Thread 

Post#93 » by skorff26 » Sat Feb 28, 2009 12:04 am

Washington has matched the offer for Marvin Williams

Washington has signed Flip Murray
Year 1 - $1,107,572
Year 2 - $1,223,166
Year 3 - $1,272,279 (player option)
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Re: GM a Team: Free Agency Thread 

Post#94 » by skorff26 » Sat Feb 28, 2009 1:02 am

Hedo Turkoglu has agreed to sign with the Sacramento Kings
Yr 1 - 10 mil
Yr 2 - 10.5 mil
Yr 3 - 11 mil
Yr 4 - 11.5 mil
Yr 5 - 11.5 mil (TO, 3 mil Guarenteed)
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Re: GM a Team: Free Agency Thread 

Post#95 » by skorff26 » Sat Feb 28, 2009 1:25 pm

Orlando has signed Bobby Jackson to a veteran's minimum contact
Year 1 - $1,306,455
Year 2 - $1,352,181 (player option)

Toronto matches the offer sheet for Jamario Moon
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Re: GM a Team: Free Agency Thread 

Post#96 » by skorff26 » Sat Feb 28, 2009 5:10 pm

Oklahoma City signs free agent Rasheed Wallace
Year 1 - 12,500,000
Year 2 - 12,500,000
Year 3 - 12,500,000
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Re: GM a Team: Free Agency Thread 

Post#97 » by skorff26 » Sun Mar 1, 2009 1:57 pm

Indiana has signed Martell Webster to an offer sheet; New Jersey can match
Year 1 - 5,000,000
Year 2 - 5,000,000
Year 3 - 5,000,000
Year 4 - 5,000,000 (player option)

Philadelphia has signed Rashad McCants to a 4 year deal (Philly has 3million left on their MLE)
Year 1: 2,819,000
Year 2: 3,000,000
Year 3: 3,250,000
Tear 4: 3,500,000 (team option)

Ryan Hollins has signed the one year qualifying offer from Golden State for 1,264,355

Will Solomon has signed the one year qualifying offer from Toronto for 924,972

Walter Hermann signs with Golden State for the bi-annual exception
Year 1: 1.99 million
Year 2: 2.00 million
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Re: GM a Team: Free Agency Thread 

Post#98 » by skorff26 » Mon Mar 2, 2009 1:49 pm

Los Angeles Clippers have signed Rodney Carney
Year 1 - $825,497
Year 2 - $854,389 (unguaranteed)

Washington has signed Brandon Bass
Year 1 - 4,750,000
Year 2 - 5,130,000
Year 3 - 5,510,000
Year 4 - 5,890,000
Year 5 - 6,270,000

New Jersey has matched the offer to Martell Webster

Indiana has signed Keith Bogans
Year 1 - 3,000,000
Year 2 - 3,000,000 (player option)
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Re: GM a Team: Free Agency Thread 

Post#99 » by skorff26 » Tue Mar 3, 2009 2:45 am

The last day of free agency will be on Wednesday March 4 at 9:00 PM est. So, send in your final offers.
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Re: GM a Team: Free Agency Thread 

Post#100 » by skorff26 » Tue Mar 3, 2009 3:05 am

Orlando has signed Theo Ratliff to a league minimum contract
Year 1 - $1,306,455

Sacramento has signed Nate Robinson to an offer sheet, New York can match
Yr 1 - 4,347,826
Yr 2 - 4,000,000
Yr 3 - 3,652,174

Marcin Gortat has accepted the qualifying offer from Portland
Year 1 - 924,972

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