Our dilemma with Westbrook

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Re: Our dilemma with Westbrook 

Post#21 » by Big_Mac79 » Sun Mar 1, 2009 8:25 pm

seattlefan35 wrote:dude...he's averaged over 15-5-5 in his first season, joining these people as the only person to do it.
Anfernee Hardaway, Grant Hill, Steve Francis, LeBron James, Chris Paul.

Also he's already elite in the open floor and is a above average defender.

He gets to the rack and his jumper is improving. When he matures he'll level his head and be a really good player...

The big difference I see is FG%
Penny - 46.6%
Grant - 47.7%
Francis - 44.5%
LeBron - 41.7%
CP3 - 43.0%
Westbrook - 40.5% and has continued to go lower due to his rise in shots taken
So if he finishes with a FG% over 40% I would be very happy but I see it continuing to fall
and currently he is at 15.8pts 5 asts 4.7 reb
and again I don't know if he can stay at the 15-5-5 for the season
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Re: Our dilemma with Westbrook 

Post#22 » by wiff » Sun Mar 1, 2009 8:27 pm

Hey Mac what did you think of Taylor Rochestie hitting that 3 ball yesterday on Senior day? That was deep!
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Re: Our dilemma with Westbrook 

Post#23 » by Big_Mac79 » Sun Mar 1, 2009 8:45 pm

That was so sick
You gotta have some huge balls to take that shot at that point
Especially since he had only made one shot prior to that
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Re: Our dilemma with Westbrook 

Post#24 » by BadWolf » Sun Mar 1, 2009 8:50 pm

Big_Mac79 wrote:
seattlefan35 wrote:dude...he's averaged over 15-5-5 in his first season, joining these people as the only person to do it.
Anfernee Hardaway, Grant Hill, Steve Francis, LeBron James, Chris Paul.

Also he's already elite in the open floor and is a above average defender.

He gets to the rack and his jumper is improving. When he matures he'll level his head and be a really good player...

The big difference I see is FG%
Penny - 46.6%
Grant - 47.7%
Francis - 44.5%
LeBron - 41.7%
CP3 - 43.0%
Westbrook - 40.5% and has continued to go lower due to his rise in shots taken
So if he finishes with a FG% over 40% I would be very happy but I see it continuing to fall
and currently he is at 15.8pts 5 asts 4.7 reb
and again I don't know if he can stay at the 15-5-5 for the season


All true, but:

Penny 22
Hill 22
Francis 22
lebron 19
CP3 20 (really?, i thought he was older)
Westbrook 20

Westbrook is young and still very inexpirienced. He was nobody just 2 years ago.
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Post#25 » by wiff » Sun Mar 1, 2009 8:56 pm

I didn't think he had enough umph behind it to get past the front of the rim. But it snapped the net.

I got stuck with running some errands with my wife and as always it took way longer than I thought it would and I turned the game on at the start of OT.

WSU has been playing really solid as of late beating UCLA in LA, Arizona and ASU.

I wonder if they finish like 3rd in the conference tournament if they have a glimmer of hope for the big dance? Tony Bennett is really proving himself to be a very good coach. Especially after losing Weaver, Lowe and Cowgil
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Post#26 » by Big_Mac79 » Sun Mar 1, 2009 9:06 pm

I have been saying all season that they can win the PAC-10 tourney
no team has really impressed me
So I see a chance for the big dance
but 3rd is not gonna get it done in my eyes
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Re: Our dilemma with Westbrook 

Post#27 » by wiff » Mon Mar 2, 2009 12:18 am

Big_Mac79 wrote:I have been saying all season that they can win the PAC-10 tourney
no team has really impressed me
So I see a chance for the big dance
but 3rd is not gonna get it done in my eyes


I think they have a shot at winning the tournament too. But they are going to have to keep on this roll and play as close to perfect as possible.

In the same way no team has really impressed you I think there is a lot of parity in the conference right now. It just took the Cougs a few conference games to catch up to the learning curve.
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Re: Our dilemma with Westbrook 

Post#28 » by Canomad » Mon Mar 2, 2009 4:40 am

Big_Mac79 wrote:
seattlefan35 wrote:dude...he's averaged over 15-5-5 in his first season, joining these people as the only person to do it.
Anfernee Hardaway, Grant Hill, Steve Francis, LeBron James, Chris Paul.

Also he's already elite in the open floor and is a above average defender.

He gets to the rack and his jumper is improving. When he matures he'll level his head and be a really good player...

The big difference I see is FG%
Penny - 46.6%
Grant - 47.7%
Francis - 44.5%
LeBron - 41.7%
CP3 - 43.0%
Westbrook - 40.5% and has continued to go lower due to his rise in shots taken
So if he finishes with a FG% over 40% I would be very happy but I see it continuing to fall
and currently he is at 15.8pts 5 asts 4.7 reb
and again I don't know if he can stay at the 15-5-5 for the season





yeah you remember durant barley shot 40 percent last year right?
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Re: Our dilemma with Westbrook 

Post#29 » by Big_Mac79 » Mon Mar 2, 2009 8:15 am

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Big_Mac79 wrote:
seattlefan35 wrote:dude...he's averaged over 15-5-5 in his first season, joining these people as the only person to do it.
Anfernee Hardaway, Grant Hill, Steve Francis, LeBron James, Chris Paul.

Also he's already elite in the open floor and is a above average defender.

He gets to the rack and his jumper is improving. When he matures he'll level his head and be a really good player...

The big difference I see is FG%
Penny - 46.6%
Grant - 47.7%
Francis - 44.5%
LeBron - 41.7%
CP3 - 43.0%
Westbrook - 40.5% and has continued to go lower due to his rise in shots taken
So if he finishes with a FG% over 40% I would be very happy but I see it continuing to fall
and currently he is at 15.8pts 5 asts 4.7 reb
and again I don't know if he can stay at the 15-5-5 for the season





yeah you remember durant barley shot 40 percent last year right?


43.0% sir
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Re: Our dilemma with Westbrook 

Post#30 » by Canomad » Mon Mar 2, 2009 8:31 am

43 percent is not much more then 40 and durant shot close to 40 most of the season until then end when he started to get acclimated to the game better. im durant fan and so are you but dont act like he didnt shoot almost 40 percent. i remember numerous threads about durants shooting percentages last year.
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Re: Our dilemma with Westbrook 

Post#31 » by Vindicater » Mon Mar 2, 2009 1:02 pm

Trade him to MInnesota, ill gladly take him off your hands, ude is a stud who has actually outplayed Mayo nearly all season long (first month exlcuded).

The only rookie who has been better is Rose, and even that is debateable
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Re: Our dilemma with Westbrook 

Post#32 » by big L » Mon Mar 2, 2009 2:18 pm

I can't believe how you guys are getting on Westbrook, frankly. You're down on his shooting percentage? He's a rookie, switching over to the more difficult position in the game, and coming in as someone who didn't have a reputation as a shooter! You guys have to show some patience here.
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Re: Our dilemma with Westbrook 

Post#33 » by Mark C » Mon Mar 2, 2009 10:11 pm

Big_Mac79 wrote:
seattlefan35 wrote:dude...he's averaged over 15-5-5 in his first season, joining these people as the only person to do it.
Anfernee Hardaway, Grant Hill, Steve Francis, LeBron James, Chris Paul.

Also he's already elite in the open floor and is a above average defender.

He gets to the rack and his jumper is improving. When he matures he'll level his head and be a really good player...

The big difference I see is FG%
Penny - 46.6%
Grant - 47.7%
Francis - 44.5%
LeBron - 41.7%
CP3 - 43.0%
Westbrook - 40.5% and has continued to go lower due to his rise in shots taken
So if he finishes with a FG% over 40% I would be very happy but I see it continuing to fall
and currently he is at 15.8pts 5 asts 4.7 reb
and again I don't know if he can stay at the 15-5-5 for the season


And of all those the guys with the two worst percentages are the best of all the players.
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Re: Our dilemma with Westbrook 

Post#34 » by Big_Mac79 » Tue Mar 3, 2009 12:58 am

I can obviously see that
Are you saying that because Westbrook could end up with an even worse FG% he could be better than CP3 and LeBron?
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Re: Our dilemma with Westbrook 

Post#35 » by wizkid27 » Tue Mar 3, 2009 1:15 am

Big_Mac79 wrote:I can obviously see that
Are you saying that because Westbrook could end up with an even worse FG% he could be better than CP3 and LeBron?


Definitely! Hopefully with Durant and Green both out tonight he'll go about 5 for 50, further putting him ahead of Paul and James :)

Honestly though, I think he was just trying to show that that mix of versatility has spelled very good things for players in the past while the rookie year field goal percentage is not as conclusive.
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Re: Our dilemma with Westbrook 

Post#36 » by Big_Mac79 » Tue Mar 3, 2009 1:26 am

Well tonight he is ice cold so far
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Re: Our dilemma with Westbrook 

Post#37 » by KD_Stan » Tue Mar 3, 2009 1:38 am

What a surprise, westbrook looking like a bum yet again.


The least offensively skilled player drafted in the top 15 this summer.
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Post#38 » by KD_Stan » Tue Mar 3, 2009 1:41 am

BTW, watson has to be the single most horrific rotation player I have ever had the displeasure of witnessing.

And Swift.....I don't even know what to say
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Re: Our dilemma with Westbrook 

Post#39 » by Big_Mac79 » Tue Mar 3, 2009 1:46 am

Swift is doing ok so far
Had one questionable shot
4pts in 4 minutes
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Re: Our dilemma with Westbrook 

Post#40 » by SportsFan215 » Tue Mar 3, 2009 2:44 am

KD_Stan wrote:I am absolutely convinced that he is no PG and if he ever does turn into one it will be a long, slow, gradual process that will take like 4 years. Unfortunately we have this guy named Durant who is ready to win now and every single year wasted from this day forward trying to develop a PG that prevents him from getting better as well as the team from getting any more wins is a waste and cannot be tolerated. Durant is the cornerstone of this franchise and is ready for the big time as we speak. It is time we build this team accordingly. I cannot stand to see any more of his years wasted like this. Russell needs to move over to the SG and we need a legitimate, above average facilitator of the offense and someone that will understand that his role is to set up KD and make him better. Russell does not get this and/or is unable to do it.

My concern is that though RW is big and athletic for PG, he is a tweener for SG. So at either position he will be a problem for us. We could maybe afford to get away with him at SG if only we didnt have yet another player at a different position being a tweener for his position, which is what green is at PF. However, unlike RW green compensates for his tweenerosity and between those two I take Green all day everyday.

Westbrook either needs to become our Barbosa off the bench or used as trade bait to nab us a REALLY good player that actually fits a need.

Lets eat some hammerhead shark caviar, wash it down with Hennessey, and talk about it my people......


If you guys think that Westbrook might be better at SG, would you guys be interested in Baron Davis to play to his fellow Bruin in the back court.

How about Watson/Wilkins for Baron?

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