Hammond Speaks-Season Ticket holder event

[EastSideBucksFan]

Here is one example. Lets say that you are poor man who has 2 roosters. They can't coexist because they always fights. Are you going to give one of them for nothing? Well you shouldn't have to because if there is a man who wants to buy one rooster then he has to be ready to pay for that. What if that man knows that you have to sell one of them and therefore doesn't want to give you anything? Well then you keep the better one and the other will make fine soup

Come on Sigra, be honest, you are in the rooster trading business.

Very nice!

[Sigra]

I would rather have the younger rooster. That gives you more time to find a hen before you're completely broke.

If you don't want to pay for nice and healthy rooster then I will just keep him and make soup of him. I am just that kind of person and I guess Hammond is as well.

[worthlessBucks]

I'd like to shake the person's hand who takes our 13th-15 lotto pick, Ridnour, and Allen . Not sure how many teams under the cap are going to be lining up for that one or how many teams not under will have a ng contract waiting in the wings.

[Sigra]

Here is one example. Lets say that you are poor man who has 2 roosters. They can't coexist because they always fights. Are you going to give one of them for nothing? Well you shouldn't have to because if there is a man who wants to buy one rooster then he has to be ready to pay for that. What if that man knows that you have to sell one of them and therefore doesn't want to give you anything? Well then you keep the better one and the other will make fine soup

Come on Sigra, be honest, you are in the rooster trading business.

Very nice!

Actually, I do things with goats. Ask Epi if you don't believe me

[europa]

I'd like to shake the person's hand who takes our 13th-15 lotto pick, Ridnour, and Allen . Not sure how many teams under the cap are going to be lining up for that one or how many teams not under will have a ng contract waiting in the wings.

I never said it was going to be easy.

Seriously, it's going to be a challenge and as Hammond has said he's going to have to get creative. I'm not saying there is an easy solution here given Hammond's refusal to trade RJ for Wally. But I'm not going to bury him until we see what he does next summer. If he f's it all up, believe me I'll be here hammering him to death and you guys can all let me know how wrong I was for thinking Hammond knew what he was doing. I'll be fine with that. All I'm saying is I'm not going to put him in the coffin until I know for sure he's dead.

[trwi7]

I'm saying that I believe Hammond will make moves to continue trying to improve the roster. I do not expect Sessions being re-signed to be the only move made. Perhaps he gets a better deal in terms of talent for RJ than what he could have gotten now. Yes he brings back equal salary but perhaps the talent involved makes the Bucks a better team as a result. That's hardly unrealistic. That's one of the reasons why I'm not in a panic like so many here are. There was certainly nothing in the comments Hammond made last night which would make me feel concerned about him or the job he's doing.

Or maybe he sells off the first using Rindour's expiring and he can get Allen tossed into the mix as well. That puts him at $56M in salary. He re-signs Sessions and Villanueva for $10M and he still has $3M to work with under the luxury tax. Bring over future Hall of Famer Ersan Ilyasova, sign a scub to back up Sessions and now you're looking at:

PG: Sessions/Scub
PG: Redd/Bell
SF: RJ/M&M/Alexander
PF: Villanueva/Ilysasova
C: Bogut/Elson/Gadz

That doesn't look so bad to me.

That means we either have to get a NG contract coming back (like Stackhouse) or a team with cap space will have to absorb $10 million salary for the 13-15 pick.

And your roster still means we're over the luxury tax most likely.

[europa]

And your roster still means we're over the luxury tax most likely.

It's right at $69M, maybe a shade over, but I'm rounding off the figures.

[smauss]

I'm honestly in shock. None of this is new. We all knew what Hammond could have done and why he didn't do it, but to actually come out and admit it? In front of season ticket holders?

"'Tis better to be silent and be thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt."

Seriously, I'm floored.

I've gotten to this point in the thread and I'm feeling exactly the same way.

Also, like others have mentioned, I'd be more concerned to do whats best for my own team than worry about Cleveland.......

[DH34Phan]

RJ doesn't make this team any better. We don't need 14 million invested in a guy that doesn't make this team much better.

We could have traded RJ, maybe still have made the playoffs, and used the freed up money to re-sign Sessions, CV, and be able to use our draft.

Sessions
Redd
Moute
CV
Bogut

With young assets (2009 1st, Ersan, Alexander)

Trading RJ was so plainly obvious to do it is sick. We could have made the playoffs this season without RJ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[europa]

I'd like to shake the person's hand who takes our 13th-15 lotto pick, Ridnour, and Allen .

Maybe it's Ridnour, 2009 first and Alexander. That clears out an additional $1M in salary which gives you more room to work with. All it takes is finding one team who might like Alexander. I'd sacrifice the 2009 first and Alexander to keep Sessions and Villanueva.

[DH34Phan]

I'd like to shake the person's hand who takes our 13th-15 lotto pick, Ridnour, and Allen .

Maybe it's Ridnour, 2009 first and Alexander. That clears out an additional $1M in salary which gives you more room to work with. All it takes is finding one team who might like Alexander. I'd sacrifice the 2009 first and Alexander to keep Sessions and Villanueva.

If there is any GM that likes Alexander they have been hiding with out Bin Laden for the last 5 months without access to NBA coverage.

[worthlessBucks]

All I'm saying is I'm not going to put him in the coffin until I know for sure he's dead.

We can bury him, we'll just tie one of those strings with a bell to his finger like they did in the olden days. Just in case he surprises us

[AussieBuck]

[AussieBuck]

Oh well looks like my sig was spot on.

[ReasonablySober]

Oh well looks like my sig was spot on.

You should probably change it if you want to stay on the good graces of our mods.

[AussieBuck]

Oh well looks like my sig was spot on.

You should probably change it if you want to stay on the good graces of our mods.

I've had it for a while now without complaint. Yeah I guess I could word it nicer.

[smauss]

I know that I'm not the sharpest tool in the shed, but what irritates me is that this roster position we are in could have been avoided multiple times. Bottom line is that this organization has sacraficed at least two years just to be able to say that they made the playoffs, which is by no means a lock. This was the choice of this franchises leadership. I can't say Hammond, Kohl or anybody else because I don't know but if history is any kind of teacher one could make an educated guess. Personally, I think it is a grave mistake. Unfortunately, the fall guy may not have been the person most directly responsible for choosing this course. I'm just so very tired of this organization and it's too bad because, like Ive said in the past, I've been a fan of the Milwaukee Bucks since their first game, but this owner's record is abysmal and I don't think it will change in the near future.

[paulpressey25]

what irritates me is that this roster position we are in could have been avoided multiple times. Bottom line is that this organization has sacraficed at least two years just to be able to say that they made the playoffs, which is by no means a lock. .

I agree with what Europa is saying above. We really don't know how this will work out. There may be some options out there that Hammond has in mind to trade different combinations of people this summer. We could all be pretty happy here on July 15th and find our roster with CV, Ramon and Josh Howard on it.

But what I'm concerned about is what you note above. Hammond's track record in his first year doesn't lend great confidence that he'll come up with the creative solutions needed. Just the fact Hammond is preparing the season ticket holders for a year with a core of Redd/RJ/Bogut is troubling.

[Mike X]

I'm very worried that we didn't move RJ because it makes the Cavs, who are already a title contender, even better. That is 100% IRRELEVANT.

I disagree. If they want to secure wining championship (and with RJ they are 100% sure IMO) then they have to pay for that. It was not "life or death" situation for Bucks. We still have options to keep CV or we could just have RJ over CV and be happy with that. RJ is better player anyway. No reason for us to get raped like that.

Maybe as well Hammond feels that if were going to be contending for a title ourselves in a few years (a girl can dream cant she) why make a conference rival even stronger.

[beyond_the_arc]

Any GM wasting time on a 5 year plan should be fired immediately. 5 years is the longest any contract can run now and still we have complete incompetence from Hammond who doesn't understand how to rebuild since he's never done it before.