Official Maryland Terps Thread 2.0

spaceman_E · Post #121 » by **spaceman_E** » Mon Mar 2, 2009 3:34 pm

Milbourne is fine as our 2nd option. He got in foul trouble tonight because there was a stretch early in the 2nd half where NC ST. went inside, I think it was 6 or 7 times in a row and got a whistle EVERY single time. It was pretty damn ridiculous but I guess that is what home court advantage is supposed to look like.
I think we are in if we win one of the last two, but I also think we are playing so well right now we probably win the next 2. Wake scares me more than Duke and UNC did tbh but it's at home and I think Gary will come up big with his back against the wall.

P'Oed · Post #122 » by **P'Oed** » Mon Mar 2, 2009 4:14 pm

spaceman_E wrote:Milbourne is fine as our 2nd option. He got in foul trouble tonight because there was a stretch early in the 2nd half where NC ST. went inside, I think it was 6 or 7 times in a row and got a whistle EVERY single time. It was pretty damn ridiculous but I guess that is what home court advantage is supposed to look like.
I think we are in if we win one of the last two, but I also think we are playing so well right now we probably win the next 2. Wake scares me more than Duke and UNC did tbh but it's at home and I think Gary will come up big with his back against the wall.

you're right, Milbourne has been excellent. Sometimes his game reminds me of Caron's; great mid-range jumper, a few slick post moves, decent passer and pretty good rebound ability. I just hate that he has to worry about guarding bigger guys. If he was playing at the 3 right now with some big, bulky PF taking his spot I think we'd be hell to deal with. But someone other than Vazquez and Milbourne HAS to step up and take on some kind of scoring load whether it's a bench player or another starter. It's always either we finish games with 1 FG in the last 5 minutes or Vazquez somehow flips the offensive switch and it can't be like that when you're playing huge games to try to get into the tournament.

Post #123 » by **miller31time** » Mon Mar 2, 2009 6:13 pm

On another note, I'm really happy with how Hayes has handled becoming a 6th man. He looks much more comfortable out there and the numbers back that up. Plus, he finishes the game either way.

It just looks like, in many aspects, this team is coming together to finish the season.

mhd · Post #124 » by **mhd** » Mon Mar 2, 2009 6:50 pm

Tucker is the key to the team. He's the best perimeter defender and the best pure scorer outside Vasquez on the team.

Post #125 » by **Ruzious** » Mon Mar 2, 2009 7:04 pm

miller31time wrote:On another note, I'm really happy with how Hayes has handled becoming a 6th man. He looks much more comfortable out there and the numbers back that up. Plus, he finishes the game either way.

It just looks like, in many aspects, this team is coming together to finish the season.

Yeah, it's such a pleasure to see the difference in his confidence from last year. The fans were really down on him by the end of last year, and now - it's cool when he has the ball at the end of close games - on the occasions that Grevis gives up the ball, that is.

Tucker is the key to the team. He's the best perimeter defender and the best pure scorer outside Vasquez on the team.

He's such a talent - it was a real shame that he wasn't getting to play earlier this season. I guess Gary was making a point to him to work harder. Mosely was getting his time - and giving his all, but Tucker is just a superior talent. Notice that Tucker has had his biggest games when Milbourne's got in foul trouble. I think Gary and Grevis need to make a concerted effort to get Tucker involved offensively every game.

Post #126 » by **miller31time** » Mon Mar 2, 2009 7:44 pm

mhd wrote:Tucker is the key to the team. He's the best perimeter defender and the best pure scorer outside Vasquez on the team.

He's a good perimeter defender but Mosley is, IMO, the best perimeter defender on the team.

Speaking of Mosley, he's going to be really good in a year - the moves he's able to make are top-notch....he just can't finish worth a lick. I'm chalking that up to nerves and inexperience right now, but when he finishes those moves, he's going to be tough to guard.

Regarding Tucker, he's a poor man's Vasquez - when his shot is falling, he is a very dangerous player, but he's also wildly inconsistent and makes some of the most bone-headed plays imaginable.

Post #127 » by **Ruzious** » Mon Mar 2, 2009 8:25 pm

miller31time wrote:
mhd wrote:Tucker is the key to the team. He's the best perimeter defender and the best pure scorer outside Vasquez on the team.

He's a good perimeter defender but Mosley is, IMO, the best perimeter defender on the team.

Speaking of Mosley, he's going to be really good in a year - the moves he's able to make are top-notch....he just can't finish worth a lick. I'm chalking that up to nerves and inexperience right now, but when he finishes those moves, he's going to be tough to guard.

Regarding Tucker, he's a poor man's Vasquez - when his shot is falling, he is a very dangerous player, but he's also wildly inconsistent and makes some of the most bone-headed plays imaginable.

I don't know. I love Mosely's effort - especially on defense, but he's got limitations, and he can't shoot right now. He's like a poor man's Darryl Strawberry. That's fine - as long as there's better offensive players around him.

Tucker is bigger faster quicker, shoots better, and has better passing instincts.

P'Oed · Post #128 » by **P'Oed** » Mon Mar 2, 2009 9:01 pm

you're all wrong...Jin Soo Kim is better than anyone on this team

spaceman_E · Post #129 » by **spaceman_E** » Tue Mar 3, 2009 4:37 am

Bowie is definitely the best perimeter defender on the team. He has not been scoring well lately but I think that is because Vasquez has been playing a lot more PG recently. Bowie needs the ball in his hands to be effective. Being aggr. and taking it strong to the lane. He will be needed down the stretch since he is also probably our best finisher at the rack. I expect it to be a close game tomorrow so how well he contains Teague could very well decide the game.

Mosley is good but isn't quite quick enough and doesn't have the size for his natural position(3). I said this before and I've seen others say it as well but he is really a Byron Mouton clone minus a couple inches. He is crucial to this team with his defense, toughness, and smarts. Give him a year or 2 and he will develop that outside shot as well. He is already our best per inch rebounder(Milbourne is slightly better on the O-boards) and an underrated passer as well.

Tucker has the size and athleticism but doesn't play smart. He will get burnt occasionally and he gets out of position when they go zone. Tucker would have fit in real nice a couple years back when we were almost always the more athletic team with Jones, DJ, Ebekwe and Gist, but we also had about 10 unforced TO's per game because we played so stupid. I think Jones is actually a fair comparison now that I think of it as well. Highly touted, prototypical size/athleticism at the 2, natural scorer but just doesn't quite know what he is doing out there... yet. He is only a sophomore so he could still put it all together but for now he is flawed. His scoring will definitely be needed though if we are to make a run in the tournament.

Chocolate City Jordanaire · Post #130 » by **Chocolate City Jordanaire** » Tue Mar 3, 2009 7:48 am

ACC Power Rankings
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 6.   Maryland
(18-10, 7-7)    Greivis Vasquez’s 33-point effort in Sunday’s win over North Carolina State marked the second time in three games that he’s eclipsed the 30-point barrier. Maryland could greatly increase its postseason chances by defeating Wake Forest Tuesday in College Park. (6)

P'Oed · Post #131 » by **P'Oed** » Tue Mar 3, 2009 5:00 pm

alirght....tonight is the night to pretty much lock up the chance to go dancin'. Let's see what Terps team decides to show up. For the love of God please don't build an 18 point lead and blow it in the last 6 minutes like you did against Clemson last year; my heart can't take it.

P'Oed · Post #132 » by **P'Oed** » Wed Mar 4, 2009 2:58 am

Unbelievable that they showed that f'ing Caps game that was already over and made me miss the first 11 minutes of the game. Vazquez running the show as usual. Built an 11 point lead and blew it in true Wizards fashion but good ol' Davey Neal hits a huge 3 on Dave Neal Night with time expiring. Teague is really cold right now but he's going to heat up for sure. Rebounding has obviously been a problem with all of their bigs and I believe Neal has 3 fouls so we could be in big trouble...lot of calls not going our way.

7 point halftime lead

PLEASE GET IT DONE TERPS!!!!!!

Post #133 » by **Rafael122** » Wed Mar 4, 2009 3:47 am

I gotta admit, its a great turnaround for Maryland. They've been playing very well. Win tonight and they are in.

Lose tonight, a win against Virginia isn't going to put them in the dance. They are probably going to have to win at least 2 games in the ACC Tournament.

Chocolate City Jordanaire · Post #134 » by **Chocolate City Jordanaire** » Wed Mar 4, 2009 4:04 am

Didn't see the game. Saw the box score. Terps took 2 FTs .... the entire game.

Vasquez was 7-24. It's hard to take 24 shots and take 0 FTs.

On a related note, the other day I saw Duke get handed a game where they went to the line a ton and traveled without it getting called.

Post #135 » by **Rafael122** » Wed Mar 4, 2009 4:09 am

It was the Virginia Tech game I think. Scheyer kid traveled about 4 times on one play. Clear as day on the replay.

Post #136 » by **miller31time** » Wed Mar 4, 2009 4:20 am

Vasquez = ice cold

Milbourne = ice cold

Hayes = ice cold

Yet the Terps led for most of the game and were SO close to winning.

We just didn't have the size to compete inside on either end, unfortunately.

It's a shame, really. Dave Neal was friggin on FIRE and it was senior day. We should have won just so Neal could have had that memory.

Oh well, it was against the 10th best team in college basketball and none of our best players could find the basket at all. We played our asses off, hustled and nearly won. Just win against Virginia and take one game in the ACC tourney and we're in. Very do-able.

P'Oed · Post #137 » by **P'Oed** » Wed Mar 4, 2009 4:30 am

wow....I mean how typical. Clemson 2008 Part 2....God forbid any team I'm a fan of should win a HUGE game like this. Everyone acts as if beating Virginia on the road, during senior day and winning one in a tournament that we have a history of sucking in is just an absolute lock. I GUARANTEE a blowout loss against the Cavs on the road. It's the same stupid crap with this team. I mean this is an exact mirror of what happened last year.

2 fts the entire game? great ACC officiating
Milbourne goes 1-6? are you serious?
Hayes misses 4 wide open 3-point shots that would've been crucial? what an absolute choke

forget it. This team is cooked.

Post #138 » by **miller31time** » Wed Mar 4, 2009 4:36 am

P'Oed wrote:wow....I mean how typical. Clemson 2008 Part 2....God forbid any team I'm a fan of should win a HUGE game like this. Everyone acts as if beating Virginia on the road, during senior day and winning one in a tournament that we have a history of sucking in is just an absolute lock. I GUARANTEE a blowout loss against the Cavs on the road. It's the same stupid crap with this team. I mean this is an exact mirror of what happened last year.

2 fts the entire game? great ACC officiating
Milbourne goes 1-6? are you serious?
Hayes misses 4 wide open 3-point shots that would've been crucial? what an absolute choke

forget it. This team is cooked.

It's not THAT bad. I mean, it was a tough loss and I'm a pretty pessimistic person but we were facing the 10th best team in college b-ball and we led for most of the game.

Not comparable to Clemson, IMHO. We completely broke down on that one. This game, however, our top players were consistently bad from the beginning. Yet we were still in it till the end.

Disappointing but I still like our chances.

P'Oed · Post #139 » by **P'Oed** » Wed Mar 4, 2009 4:45 am

miller31time wrote:
P'Oed wrote:wow....I mean how typical. Clemson 2008 Part 2....God forbid any team I'm a fan of should win a HUGE game like this. Everyone acts as if beating Virginia on the road, during senior day and winning one in a tournament that we have a history of sucking in is just an absolute lock. I GUARANTEE a blowout loss against the Cavs on the road. It's the same stupid crap with this team. I mean this is an exact mirror of what happened last year.

2 fts the entire game? great ACC officiating
Milbourne goes 1-6? are you serious?
Hayes misses 4 wide open 3-point shots that would've been crucial? what an absolute choke

forget it. This team is cooked.

It's not THAT bad. I mean, it was a tough loss and I'm a pretty pessimistic person but we were facing the 10th best team in college b-ball and we led for most of the game.

Not comparable to Clemson, IMHO. We completely broke down on that one. This game, however, our top players were consistently bad from the beginning. Yet we were still in it till the end.

Disappointing but I still like our chances.

This REALLY stings though dude. Up 54-48 with 6 minutes left and plenty of wide open 3's just waiting to be drilled by someone....ANYONE. This would've locked us in the NCAA tournament and now we have to worry about going to Charlottesville where we stink it up on a regular basis before we head into a high-pressure tournament where anything can happen. It just really sucks man. It's a terribly hard pill to swallow considering it's the same exact script as last year.

Post #140 » by **miller31time** » Wed Mar 4, 2009 4:52 am

P'Oed wrote:This REALLY stings though dude. Up 54-48 with 6 minutes left and plenty of wide open 3's just waiting to be drilled by someone....ANYONE. This would've locked us in the NCAA tournament and now we have to worry about going to Charlottesville where we stink it up on a regular basis before we head into a high-pressure tournament where anything can happen. It just really sucks man. It's a terribly hard pill to swallow considering it's the same exact script as last year.

Yeah, it stings, no doubt. I'm just not ready to thrown in the towel. We've been playing some good, fundamentally sound basketball late this season. It hasn't always ended in wins but I like the fact that we can stick with an elite team without a good game from our best players.

Just think about it....if Vasquez plays more than 20 minutes, we beat Duke.

If Hayes knocks down a three or if Vasquez isn't ice cold, we win this one easily.

I like the fact that we're even in these games. A lot of people probably didn't even think we'd be competitive tonight.