Yao Ming or Dwight Howard?
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Yao Ming or Dwight Howard?
Who is the better player? I wouldn't just count fully on this season, I believe Yao is still slightly better, but Dwight will soon overtake him.
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Dwight has already overtaken him. More effective of a scorer, much more athletic, more powerful, defensively has a higher impact, very good durability, and even though Yao shoots a higher percentage from the free throw line, Dwight gets to the line ENOUGH to surpass Yao's free throw attempts despite his terrible shooting.
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Yao's offense (or ability to create own shot) is far superior to Dwights who gets most points off of Off. Rebounds and easy baskets; but Dwights defense and rebounding is far better than Yaos.
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People are just going to look at stats, which means Dwight is better.
But if you dig deeper into stats such as 82games.com, it shows you Yao is better in the 4th quarter under 5 minutes with a 5 point difference. Magics rarely go to Dwight in crunch minutes.
Another telling look is how each player performs against good, average, and poor teams.
Yao excels against good teams, while Dwight chews up the poor teams.
Really depends on the Role of the player. Hard to say who is 1 or 2. But like I said, most fans are about numbers so Dwight is better.
But if you dig deeper into stats such as 82games.com, it shows you Yao is better in the 4th quarter under 5 minutes with a 5 point difference. Magics rarely go to Dwight in crunch minutes.
Another telling look is how each player performs against good, average, and poor teams.
Yao excels against good teams, while Dwight chews up the poor teams.
Really depends on the Role of the player. Hard to say who is 1 or 2. But like I said, most fans are about numbers so Dwight is better.
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barnsleyman123 wrote:Yao's offense (or ability to create own shot) is far superior to Dwights who gets most points off of Off. Rebounds and easy baskets; but Dwights defense and rebounding is far better than Yaos.
Agreed, but If you ask me. Yao's defense and rebounding is closer to Dwight's than Dwight's offense is to Yao's.
Jeff Van Gundy, Gary Payton, Jamal Mashburn, Mike Breen and Jon Barry have all said Yao is the best center in the NBA.
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DreamYaoTmac5 wrote:barnsleyman123 wrote:Yao's offense (or ability to create own shot) is far superior to Dwights who gets most points off of Off. Rebounds and easy baskets; but Dwights defense and rebounding is far better than Yaos.
Agreed, but If you ask me. Yao's defense and rebounding is closer to Dwight's than Dwight's offense is to Yao's.
Jeff Van Gundy, Gary Payton, Jamal Mashburn, Mike Breen and Jon Barry have all said Yao is the best center in the NBA.
I agree most people just assume Yao defense is far worse than it seems. He alters a ton of shots. If anything I look at defense being a team defense which Yao is good at but Dwigh Howard has one advantage and that's the weakside block. Dwight is much quicker in that aspect, which makes him look beastly when he blocks.
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smapor wrote:DreamYaoTmac5 wrote:barnsleyman123 wrote:Yao's offense (or ability to create own shot) is far superior to Dwights who gets most points off of Off. Rebounds and easy baskets; but Dwights defense and rebounding is far better than Yaos.
Agreed, but If you ask me. Yao's defense and rebounding is closer to Dwight's than Dwight's offense is to Yao's.
Jeff Van Gundy, Gary Payton, Jamal Mashburn, Mike Breen and Jon Barry have all said Yao is the best center in the NBA.
I agree most people just assume Yao defense is far worse than it seems. He alters a ton of shots. If anything I look at defense being a team defense which Yao is good at but Dwigh Howard has one advantage and that's the weakside block. Dwight is much quicker in that aspect, which makes him look beastly when he blocks.
So is your vote Yao? Do you post on ESPN?
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Dwight's developed a MUCH better offensive arsenal overall since last season for people who said he gets only dunks and put backs, and obviously he impacts the game far more than Yao overall.
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Another one of these threads huh...
My answer will always be Howard.
My answer will always be Howard.
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If Speaking as a general fan I dont think many would like Yao, his play is atrocious.
gamewise Both are intimidating force in the paint, while Yao is a bit soft, drawing every single guard in the league driving into the paint and bump into him for a whistle. Howard is better but he still dont dominate, for some strange reason.
Yao is a much better offense option, though he chokes badly sometimes.
About crunch time I think magic is right about not going to howard because big guys dont do good in crunch time usually, somehow. but we also know he could make great shots when it matters.
generally I think howard is more of somebody to rely on, though Yao is great already.
gamewise Both are intimidating force in the paint, while Yao is a bit soft, drawing every single guard in the league driving into the paint and bump into him for a whistle. Howard is better but he still dont dominate, for some strange reason.
Yao is a much better offense option, though he chokes badly sometimes.
About crunch time I think magic is right about not going to howard because big guys dont do good in crunch time usually, somehow. but we also know he could make great shots when it matters.
generally I think howard is more of somebody to rely on, though Yao is great already.
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Howard is better.
Howard IS the orlando magic. His role players suck so he has to try hard just to keep them in the game @ the end of games. He runs out of gas which is normal for any human being. Him eating up weak teams goes along with the East vs. west argument. If Dwight was in the West, he'd put up similar numbers I think.
If you had to build a team and had to choose one player......
I'd take Kobe then dwight then Artest then lebron......i don't even know where i'd put yao =/
(ps kidding about artest)
Howard IS the orlando magic. His role players suck so he has to try hard just to keep them in the game @ the end of games. He runs out of gas which is normal for any human being. Him eating up weak teams goes along with the East vs. west argument. If Dwight was in the West, he'd put up similar numbers I think.
If you had to build a team and had to choose one player......
I'd take Kobe then dwight then Artest then lebron......i don't even know where i'd put yao =/
(ps kidding about artest)
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Actions speak louder than words,wait and see which one of them could get his first NBA championship ring.
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put this on general board and you'll know who wins..
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PocketRockets wrote:Howard is better.
Howard IS the orlando magic. His role players suck so he has to try hard just to keep them in the game @ the end of games. He runs out of gas which is normal for any human being. Him eating up weak teams goes along with the East vs. west argument. If Dwight was in the West, he'd put up similar numbers I think.
If you had to build a team and had to choose one player......
I'd take Kobe then dwight then Artest then lebron......i don't even know where i'd put yao =/
(ps kidding about artest)
His Role player sucks?????? Magics are falling because their most important piece got injured.
i wouldn't call Lewis, Hedo, Nelson suckage, the fact that whole team is shooting 40% or better at the 3 point line.
He doesn't run out of gas at the end of the game, he is just a liablitiy at the end because of limited offensive moves and FT%.
When Dwight was injured Magics easily won games, when Nelson is out, People declared Magic's season is over and needed rescue by Rafer????
I mean come on Dwight is the better Center (Stats wise), but people are overrating him at this point. He is far from being dominate.
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Indeed! Other peoples' opinions being known to decisively prove topics of discussion. The more opinions you garner, the more decisively it's proven. That's a fact in my opinion.
They're close enough that it's hard to decide, I'll put it that way having flip-flopped on the issue. More importantly, this topic is really stale.
They're close enough that it's hard to decide, I'll put it that way having flip-flopped on the issue. More importantly, this topic is really stale.
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Not that Dwight is the better scorer, but his offense is getting underrated here. Orlando doesn't employ the pick-n-roll, and he still averages over 20 ppg.
All factors considered, Dwight Howard is better.
All factors considered, Dwight Howard is better.
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I like both team and both player, but I gotta take Dwight as the better player.. He's much improved on both offense and defense, if you say he rely on putbacks and dunks, then you obviously haven't watch him play in a while. Dwight is still inconsistent sometimes, dominate the first quarter and then disappear for much of the rest of the game.
Dwight is better at blocking, rebounding, defense, athleticism, and durability while Yao got Dwight's number on the offensive moves, free-throw, and maybe one-on-one defense. If I need one basket, I'd go to Yao. But keep in mind, Dwight avg higher points while shooting less.
Also.. to PocketRocket, how can you choose Kobe over Lebron and Dwight to start a franchise? He's 30 while L&D are 23, also Kobe has not show he can lead his team anywhere without a dominate cast around him.
Dwight is better at blocking, rebounding, defense, athleticism, and durability while Yao got Dwight's number on the offensive moves, free-throw, and maybe one-on-one defense. If I need one basket, I'd go to Yao. But keep in mind, Dwight avg higher points while shooting less.
Also.. to PocketRocket, how can you choose Kobe over Lebron and Dwight to start a franchise? He's 30 while L&D are 23, also Kobe has not show he can lead his team anywhere without a dominate cast around him.
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Don't remember where the thread was that said Yao could only jump 6 inches, but
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G-Heel wrote:I like both team and both player, but I gotta take Dwight as the better player.. He's much improved on both offense and defense, if you say he rely on putbacks and dunks, then you obviously haven't watch him play in a while. Dwight is still inconsistent sometimes, dominate the first quarter and then disappear for much of the rest of the game.
Dwight is better at blocking, rebounding, defense, athleticism, and durability while Yao got Dwight's number on the offensive moves, free-throw, and maybe one-on-one defense. If I need one basket, I'd go to Yao. But keep in mind, Dwight avg higher points while shooting less.
Also.. to PocketRocket, how can you choose Kobe over Lebron and Dwight to start a franchise? He's 30 while L&D are 23, also Kobe has not show he can lead his team anywhere without a dominate cast around him.
Dwight avgs more points not becuase he shoots less, look at his FTA per game, its almost double of Yao. Dwight gets alot more calls because of his phyiscal ability, while most Rocket fans will agree Yao just doesn't get the calls.
I just go by 82games.com, they have tons of analysis on how a player does in situations. Till than both Centers are not dominate enough in for today's standards. Post players are dead. They both need a very good PG or Wing player to carry them. That is the sad truth with today's game.
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Though I do think Dwight's potential and upside is enormous, he's got tremendous work ethic, and he'll only continue to get better. Now I can agree with T-Mac in the past having to carry this team and Yao, but I don't think Dwight is the same situation as Yao.
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