Melo suspended for Detroit game

Copperhead · Post #1 » by **Copperhead** » Tue Mar 3, 2009 5:54 am

Anyone know what's up with this?

http://www.denverpost.com/nuggets/ci_11819582

CanNugget · Post #2 » by **CanNugget** » Tue Mar 3, 2009 6:10 am

suspended? i just read he was douftful due to personal reasons.

blue steel · Post #3 » by **blue steel** » Tue Mar 3, 2009 6:10 am

The article says Melo wouldn't come out of the game during the 3rd quarter when Karl wanted him too. Karl probably wanted to take him out once he had heated up and hit a few buckets in a row, but George still got his way by letting our lead evaporate before putting Melo back in with less than 7 minutes to go in the 4th. It was pretty fun watching our 2nd string struggle, attaboy AC.

I really hate that man and do not understand why he gets a free pass. How about we suspend him for ripping and blaming players for his failures? or his 3-16 playoff record at the helm?

It's like everyone else in the world besides our front office realizes that furious george is one of the main reasons of why we are a pretender instead of a contender.

RRFB · Post #4 » by **RRFB** » Tue Mar 3, 2009 6:12 am

Huh, thats interesting.

But god damnit Melo, these little things are the reason why you have so many haters. We all try to defend you, but you just keep making it harder and harder.

sportsmikegm23 · Post #5 » by **sportsmikegm23** » Tue Mar 3, 2009 6:34 am

I know I will get more nasty grams after this...but here it goes.

With Chauncey success, and Melo still showing some "immaturity"... I wouldn't be surprised especially with the economic times to see him truly on the block this off-season.

He hasn't had a great season, and I don't know what value he would have, but I am sure they will be looking to unload some of his money for a couple of ok players... personally, I think it would be a mistake, but they can't trade K-mart's contract, and Nene is too valuable... Melo's going to be on the block...

Melo can't show up the coach...no matter how "wonderful" the coach may be. This is a bad time for this to happen.

TedR719 · Post #6 » by **TedR719** » Tue Mar 3, 2009 7:18 am

I missed the 2nd half of that game but if it is true that karl pulled Melo like that and AC was in the game I will rip my hair off and cancle out the next three tickets I have! I serouisly hate AC with a passion only because this guy plays so many minutes due to Karl's man crush... How are we going to follow up such a wonderfull vicory against the Lakers and blow it against a team that doesnt even have their star player and is not even playing .500 basketball. We are not going to even make it pass the first round yet the playoffs if we keep playing to our levels competition! I was starting not to mind Karl as much due to the wins but now it seems like this just resurfaced my concern for a coach with some passion, unless I'm just missing out on what Karl brings to the Nuggets...

Teens On Acid · Post #7 » by **Teens On Acid** » Tue Mar 3, 2009 7:21 am

sucks he's out for the detroit game, but i'm glad he stuck it to Karl.

i was listening to that game live and couldn't believe it when i heard Karl was subbing Melo out at that point.

i say good on him for standing up to Karl and his (Please Use More Appropriate Word) rotations and game management.

:clap:

almost famous · Post #8 » by **almost famous** » Tue Mar 3, 2009 8:13 am

Are we seriously forfeiting a game because Melo wanted to stay on the floor? Isn't that what you want from your star? Did Karl want LK's sorry ass in that badly? Kobe, Wade and Bron do that all the time. I've seen Bron wave off a sub more than once. Paul Pierce too. Must be nice to have a coach who builds relationships with the real stars as opposed to the scrubs.

And now we throw more fuel on the "Melo is immature" media fire, as well as give up a game we really need. Two division rivals right on our tails and we suspend players for petty disagreements? BS.

F**k you, George. F**k you.

carrottop12 · Post #9 » by **carrottop12** » Tue Mar 3, 2009 8:45 am

Believe it or not neighbors, I love Carmelo, and the fact that he knows better then George Karl is awesome.

Nutty Nats Fan · Post #10 » by **Nutty Nats Fan** » Tue Mar 3, 2009 10:22 am

almost famous wrote:Are we seriously forfeiting a game because Melo wanted to stay on the floor? Isn't that what you want from your star? Did Karl want LK's sorry ass in that badly? Kobe, Wade and Bron do that all the time. I've seen Bron wave off a sub more than once. Paul Pierce too. Must be nice to have a coach who builds relationships with the real stars as opposed to the scrubs.

And now we throw more fuel on the "Melo is immature" media fire, as well as give up a game we really need. Two division rivals right on our tails and we suspend players for petty disagreements? BS.

F**k you, George. F**k you.

Exactly.

Karl is all about Karl. Him and his huge ego are all that matter. I can't believe the FO can't see that. I really believe Karl doesn't care about winning, or I should say, he doesn't want the team to win unless it is done his way.

I really hope this offseason they finally fire him. Two years too late, but it needs to be done.

milehigh · Post #11 » by **milehigh** » Tue Mar 3, 2009 10:54 am

almost famous wrote:Are we seriously forfeiting a game because Melo wanted to stay on the floor? Isn't that what you want from your star? Did Karl want LK's sorry ass in that badly? Kobe, Wade and Bron do that all the time. I've seen Bron wave off a sub more than once. Paul Pierce too. Must be nice to have a coach who builds relationships with the real stars as opposed to the scrubs.

And now we throw more fuel on the "Melo is immature" media fire, as well as give up a game we really need. Two division rivals right on our tails and we suspend players for petty disagreements? BS.

F**k you, George. F**k you.

George is hell bent on us never having homecourt advantage I guess. Why would you get upset and suspend your star player for wanting to stay in the game? I agree with you I just don't get it, coaches love that kind of stuff, but I guess it hurts Karl's ego. :roll:

Melo you mean you don't want AC and Kleiza to come in during a close game! SUSPENSION! Please I hope we get rid of this clown after this season, he is a joke.

J Smitty · Post #12 » by **J Smitty** » Tue Mar 3, 2009 2:36 pm

The funny part is that in a Heat game earlier this year, Dwyane Wade went over by the bench while the game was going on and yelled at the coaching staff to put Haslem in the game. They said nothing and simply obliged. That's much worse than what Melo did, but nobody would care about that.....because they'd say he's just being a true competitor trying to win the game. Which is exactly what Melo was doing.

The real issue here is the double standards. J.R. can make one mistake, and he'll get yanked just like that. LK and AC can play like complete garbage for 5 straight games, and they're going to get the same amount of minutes no matter what. If I was in a game where we were just finally starting to play and get a lead, and I was one of the main components of that.....and my coach tries to take me out in the middle of it for Anthony **** Carter?!?! **** no will I want to come out....because I care about winning. And what do you know, as soon as he went out to start the 4th, our lead evaporated and we ended up losing because of it.

If he refused to enter a game, fine suspend his ass to hell...that would be disgraceful. But not wanting to come out? I call that leadership. Especially when the coach you're playing for has never shown any kind of respect to half the guys on the team.

jakjup216 · Post #13 » by **jakjup216** » Tue Mar 3, 2009 3:38 pm

i expected to come in here and see A LOT of melo hate..... and i came in and saw nothing but a bunch of STAND UP FANS!! Props to you guys man.. MELO when motivated >> WADE & BRON

Post #14 » by **The Rebel** » Tue Mar 3, 2009 3:47 pm

Karl is still a bitch, I have defended him on some things, but this is his MO, he trashes the more talented players and loves on the scrubs, and now that JR is doing whatever Karl wants while his game goes to hell, Karl is back on Melo.

Lava Rock Kid · Post #15 » by **Lava Rock Kid** » Tue Mar 3, 2009 4:25 pm

WOW just WOW
I guess a coach is not in charge anymore. I guess the players decide when they play and when they come out. What type of examples does that set when the star player wont do what the coach wants.
Your man crush on Melo has blown my mind.

I have never seen Kobe or Lebron refuse to come out of the game. It is called rotation. If a sub player knows when he is comming into a game and for about how many minutes he can prepare and be a better player for it. This makes a back up better. Melo cant win it all by himself. I am sure coach is looking at the bigger picture, that if he keeps his subs playing at a high ability come playoff time, Melo wont have to do it all. Denver can advance if everybody is on the same page. If Melo runs the show, why even have a coach. Denver is doing the right thing and in the long term I believe it will help denver win more games.

sportsmikegm23 · Post #16 » by **sportsmikegm23** » Tue Mar 3, 2009 4:36 pm

Lava Rock Kid wrote:WOW just WOW
I guess a coach is not in charge anymore. I guess the players decide when they play and when they come out. What type of examples does that set when the star player wont do what the coach wants.
Your man crush on Melo has blown my mind.

I have never seen Kobe or Lebron refuse to come out of the game. It is called rotation. If a sub player knows when he is comming into a game and for about how many minutes he can prepare and be a better player for it. This makes a back up better. Melo cant win it all by himself. I am sure coach is looking at the bigger picture, that if he keeps his subs playing at a high ability come playoff time, Melo wont have to do it all. Denver can advance if everybody is on the same page. If Melo runs the show, why even have a coach. Denver is doing the right thing and in the long term I believe it will help denver win more games.

His subs or scrubs as in Anthony Carter and Linus Kleiza aren't performing at all...they are playing terrible... and your "co captain" wants to win a game and doesn't want to come out when they can lengthen a lead in the 3rd so they can withstand "scrub" minutes and still prevail in the 4th quarter... The Nuggets have been good and GK has been "so-so", but this was and is ridiculous... Melo has fought injuries, battled, and done everything he's been asked to do... why would you handle this...this way????

maxwellcu · Post #17 » by **maxwellcu** » Tue Mar 3, 2009 4:52 pm

When in doubt, blame George Karl.

Seriously, the poster commenting that other players of Melo's caliber routinely do this and it is viewed as leadership and a desire to win.

Do you think that if Pat Riley or Phil Jackson or whoever Cleveland's coach is tried to sub their go-to guys out in a close game and they refused, that they would be suspended for a game, or that they would be allowed to stay on the court?

GK is out of his mind here, this is simply ego BS. The Nuggets have been slipping recently and they NEED to win every game to secure a good playoff situation.

If we lose to the Pistons, this will be SQUARELY on him.

This kind of BS by coaches towards star players is UNIQUE to George Karl.

blue steel · Post #18 » by **blue steel** » Tue Mar 3, 2009 5:01 pm

The Rebel wrote:Karl is still a bitch, I have defended him on some things, but this is his MO, he trashes the more talented players and loves on the scrubs, and now that JR is doing whatever Karl wants while his game goes to hell, Karl is back on Melo.

And its not like Karl doesn't have a history of ruining relationships with star players. The FO needs to get a clue.

Karl is right up their with Nellie as a manipulative, egotistical and self-serving coach that cant get wins when it counts. This should have been a clue to the FO that Karl is not working for us and for our biggest investment, Carmelo Anthony. Hopefully Billups hates the guy and can parlay the message to Mr. Rex Chapman, hell the could just fire Karl and give his salary to Billups since Billups has been doing all the coaching anyways.

almost famous · Post #19 » by **almost famous** » Tue Mar 3, 2009 8:35 pm

Lava Rock Kid wrote:WOW just WOW
I guess a coach is not in charge anymore. I guess the players decide when they play and when they come out. What type of examples does that set when the star player wont do what the coach wants.
Your man crush on Melo has blown my mind.

I have never seen Kobe or Lebron refuse to come out of the game. It is called rotation. If a sub player knows when he is comming into a game and for about how many minutes he can prepare and be a better player for it. This makes a back up better. Melo cant win it all by himself. I am sure coach is looking at the bigger picture, that if he keeps his subs playing at a high ability come playoff time, Melo wont have to do it all. Denver can advance if everybody is on the same page. If Melo runs the show, why even have a coach. Denver is doing the right thing and in the long term I believe it will help denver win more games.

First of all, I'm not even a Melo fan. I just know he's the best player on the team and we need him on the floor.

I'm sorry if you haven't seen Kobe or LeBron wave off subs, but I have. LeBron does it all the time and the commentators even narrate it.

Your whole "make other players better" thing is BS. I'm sure Melo doesn't think he can do it all, but when you're in a bit of a hot streak with your team down, why take him out? I'm sure that's what was going on in Melo's mind.

Did he make a bad decision by waving off the sub? With this coach, probably, but it's hardly suspension worthy. With a suspension you are giving up valuable wins. A fine would have been more appropriate.

As I said last time Melo was suspended "suspend him and you punish the team; fine him and you punish him."

Teens On Acid · Post #20 » by **Teens On Acid** » Tue Mar 3, 2009 9:31 pm

Lava Rock Kid wrote:WOW just WOW
I guess a coach is not in charge anymore. I guess the players decide when they play and when they come out. What type of examples does that set when the star player wont do what the coach wants.
Your man crush on Melo has blown my mind.

I have never seen Kobe or Lebron refuse to come out of the game. It is called rotation. If a sub player knows when he is comming into a game and for about how many minutes he can prepare and be a better player for it. This makes a back up better. Melo cant win it all by himself. I am sure coach is looking at the bigger picture, that if he keeps his subs playing at a high ability come playoff time, Melo wont have to do it all. Denver can advance if everybody is on the same page. If Melo runs the show, why even have a coach. Denver is doing the right thing and in the long term I believe it will help denver win more games.

you don't watch much nuggets basketball do you?
Karl is notoriously bad at game management and rotations.
in this instance he was making the wrong decision and a player pulled him up on it, which he obviously couldn't handle.

screw george karl. i'm tired of his sh*t.