NHL Trade Deadline talk

Wizards2Lottery · Post #301 » by **Wizards2Lottery** » Wed Mar 4, 2009 9:32 pm

Kolzig should have retired. What a pathetic way to end a fantastic career.

Post #302 » by **timd1218** » Wed Mar 4, 2009 9:32 pm

Lol him and Gerber will have to fight for it.

Post #303 » by **timd1218** » Wed Mar 4, 2009 9:35 pm

Toronto fans - are you disappointed in Burkes first trade deadline with Toronto?

_venom_ · Post #304 » by **_venom_** » Wed Mar 4, 2009 9:39 pm

ok so the Kolzig trade is basically the Leafs those player's salary for Washington this season in return for a 4th rd pick...

Post #305 » by **Crowned** » Wed Mar 4, 2009 9:41 pm

Guys, the Leafs didn't acquire Kolzig and Heward just because they felt like it, or wanted depth in their lineup.

Tampa Bay traded Kolzig and Heward as salary dumps to Toronto. In exchange for taking their salary, the Leafs picked up Andy Rogers (a former 1st round pick with Tampa Bay) and a 4th rounder.

It's a strange move, but we didn't acquire them for needed depth in the net.

_venom_ · Post #306 » by **_venom_** » Wed Mar 4, 2009 9:41 pm

timd1218 wrote:Toronto fans - are you disappointed in Burkes first trade deadline with Toronto?

Im not disappointed or excited. Burke didn't have much to work with and got what he could. We had no 2nd rd or 4th rd pick going into this year's draft and now we have 2 2nd rder and a 4th, plus a conditional pick that we don't know about yet. I think Burke's major moves will be at the draft where Kubina's and Kaberle's no trade clauses are gone and he can start really changing the team. Antropov and Moore weren't going to be re-signed so getting picks for them obviously made sense.

WEFFPIM · Post #307 » by **WEFFPIM** » Wed Mar 4, 2009 9:41 pm

OK, just got back. Pahlsson was picked up strictly to win faceoffs which is something the Hawks are terrible at. But he won't provide much scoring, and the Hawks gave up a ton for a guy who is suffering from mono. James Wisniewski, Petri Kontiola and a pick is a lot for a 15 point guy. I don't think Wisniewski is all that valuable, but this team is somewhat shaky on defense once you get past Keith, Seabrook and Campbell. I saw Kontiola a lot in Rockford and loved his game.

Not sure I'm a fan of this one, mainly because I think Tallon drastically overpaid.

Post #308 » by **Crowned** » Wed Mar 4, 2009 9:43 pm

WEFFPIM wrote:OK, just got back. Pahlsson was picked up strictly to win faceoffs which is something the Hawks are terrible at. But he won't provide much scoring, and the Hawks gave up a ton for a guy who is suffering from mono. James Wisniewski, Petri Kontiola and a pick is a lot for a 15 point guy. I don't think Wisniewski is all that valuable, but this team is somewhat shaky on defense once you get past Keith, Seabrook and Campbell. I saw Kontiola a lot in Rockford and loved his game.
Not sure I'm a fan of this one, mainly because I think Tallon drastically overpaid.

From what I gathered, it was Pahlsson for Wisniewski and a conditional pick.

_venom_ · Post #309 » by **_venom_** » Wed Mar 4, 2009 9:45 pm

WEFFPIM wrote:OK, just got back. Pahlsson was picked up strictly to win faceoffs which is something the Hawks are terrible at. But he won't provide much scoring, and the Hawks gave up a ton for a guy who is suffering from mono. James Wisniewski, Petri Kontiola and a pick is a lot for a 15 point guy. I don't think Wisniewski is all that valuable, but this team is somewhat shaky on defense once you get past Keith, Seabrook and Campbell. I saw Kontiola a lot in Rockford and loved his game.

Not sure I'm a fan of this one, mainly because I think Tallon drastically overpaid.

TSN only has Wisniewski for Pahlsson straight up...

Post #310 » by **Crowned** » Wed Mar 4, 2009 9:45 pm

timd1218 wrote:Toronto fans - are you disappointed in Burkes first trade deadline with Toronto?

No. I didn't expect a flury of trades from Burke this deadline. I think we'll see Kaberle moved at the draft, and I think Kubina will stay.

We got an excellent return for Moore (a player we acquired on waivers), a good return for Antropov (he was leaving anyway), we allowed Toskala to shut in down for the season and picked up an adequate alternative in Gerber. The most recent trade was also brilliant for Burke. We had cap room, so we picked up a salary dump, while receving Andy Rogers (former first round pick) and a 4th rounder.

WEFFPIM · Post #311 » by **WEFFPIM** » Wed Mar 4, 2009 9:53 pm

Crowned wrote:
WEFFPIM wrote:OK, just got back. Pahlsson was picked up strictly to win faceoffs which is something the Hawks are terrible at. But he won't provide much scoring, and the Hawks gave up a ton for a guy who is suffering from mono. James Wisniewski, Petri Kontiola and a pick is a lot for a 15 point guy. I don't think Wisniewski is all that valuable, but this team is somewhat shaky on defense once you get past Keith, Seabrook and Campbell. I saw Kontiola a lot in Rockford and loved his game.
Not sure I'm a fan of this one, mainly because I think Tallon drastically overpaid.

From what I gathered, it was Pahlsson for Wisniewski and a conditional pick.

Huh. I've seen Wisniewski, Kontiola and a pick as well.

Post #312 » by **timd1218** » Wed Mar 4, 2009 9:56 pm

TSN reported Wisniewski and conditional pick.

I am surprised no one picked up Voros off of waivers. He was playing well with the Rangers.

WEFFPIM · Post #313 » by **WEFFPIM** » Wed Mar 4, 2009 9:59 pm

Ah, ok, Kontiola rumor was on fourthperiod but nowhere else and someone reported that as true on the Blackhawks Message Board. That pill's a little easier to swallow.

Post #314 » by **Snayr** » Wed Mar 4, 2009 10:00 pm

Apparently the league rejected the Leafs - TB trade.

Post #315 » by **Crowned** » Wed Mar 4, 2009 10:02 pm

Sucks for us.

snapcracklepape · Post #316 » by **snapcracklepape** » Wed Mar 4, 2009 10:09 pm

No way! That kinda sucks lol

WEFFPIM · Post #317 » by **WEFFPIM** » Wed Mar 4, 2009 10:21 pm

Snayr wrote:Apparently the league rejected the Leafs - TB trade.

Ouch. Well that trade was so one-sided I'm amazed the Grizzlies weren't the cause of it.

Post #318 » by **Snayr** » Wed Mar 4, 2009 11:17 pm

I said "apparently" so I'm not sure if it was a legit source or not (and no it was not Eklund, I would know right away that that's not a legit source lol)

WEFFPIM · Post #319 » by **WEFFPIM** » Wed Mar 4, 2009 11:35 pm

OK, final details on the Hawks trade

Hawks receive Sami Pahlsson, Logan Stephenson and a pick
Ducks receive James Wisniewski and Petri Kontiola

Post #320 » by **Celtics_Champs** » Thu Mar 5, 2009 2:32 am

Hmm, that cole deal is a bit of a surprise.