The LeBron rules...

[MyInsatiableOne]

^I used to like Reggie early in his career, but in his mid and later years he got dirty...I mean DIRTY...flailing his legs and feet when he'd go up for a jumper to draw contact...I cannot tell you how many guys I saw him kick in the balls when he'd shoot a jumper and HE'D GET THE CALL. Lots of elbows and clawing ala Rip "the biatch" Hamilton coming off screens and stuff....I downright loathed and hated Reggie by the time he retired, and it had NOTHING to do with my Celtics homerism....

Just another reason to dislike the NBA. The "crab dribble" is not anything new, and for LeBron to get any credit for it is just stupid. He actually does not do it properly. He DOES travel after the fact.

I also cannot count the number of times I've seen 4-5 step drives from him to finish at the rim that are mysteriously NOT called travels...

[mr_sunshine]

^ It's not just LeBron though man. Most times the refs ignore blatant travels, yet KG gets called for his little foot shuffle all the time. No bias against KG, it's just astonishing that they can see THAT but not stuff like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xN_ljDfevB0

[MyInsatiableOne]

^ It's not just LeBron though man. Most times the refs ignore blatant travels, yet KG gets called for his little foot shuffle all the time. No bias against KG, it's just astonishing that they can see THAT but not stuff like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xN_ljDfevB0

Good point! That Magette clip was unreal but not surprising...guys do that all the time, sadly...

[mr_sunshine]

^ It's not just LeBron though man. Most times the refs ignore blatant travels, yet KG gets called for his little foot shuffle all the time. No bias against KG, it's just astonishing that they can see THAT but not stuff like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xN_ljDfevB0

Good point! That Magette clip was unreal but not surprising...guys do that all the time, sadly...

What can be done though? Fire all the refs and promote the top college officials?

[canman1971]

^ It's not just LeBron though man. Most times the refs ignore blatant travels, yet KG gets called for his little foot shuffle all the time. No bias against KG, it's just astonishing that they can see THAT but not stuff like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xN_ljDfevB0

My favorite part about that whole play is the ref is standing right there looking at him followed closely by the fact he STILL turned it over.

[Pogue Mahone]

What can be done though? Fire all the refs and promote the top college officials?

Replace Emperor Stern ... which will never happen because he makes the league a lot of money.

Really, though, the NBA has the best athletes of all time, the best defenses, the best offenses. All it needs to be a Golden Era is less focus on self and more focus on team. I don't think that is quite possible with Stern issuing mandates from his presidential palace in the lower reaches of the New York sewers.

The biggest problem that has occurred because of Sterno is that too many people are brainwashed into watching only the ball and think scoring is the only way to impact the game. There are players who impact games on many different levels who are incredibly valuable to team success but, because they don't score a lot, are only considered "role players".

The thing that astonishes me is that LeBron, Kobe, Melo, etc would be more valuable if they fully subscribed to team play, imo. True stars and superstars are able to impact the game without scoring and, in the process, elevate the play of their teammates. Don't believe the hype. Real "teams" are greater than the sum of their parts. They work together to make each other better.

[MyInsatiableOne]

^ It's not just LeBron though man. Most times the refs ignore blatant travels, yet KG gets called for his little foot shuffle all the time. No bias against KG, it's just astonishing that they can see THAT but not stuff like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xN_ljDfevB0

My favorite part about that whole play is the ref is standing right there looking at him followed closely by the fact he STILL turned it over.

And he only got called for the clothesline, not the cha-cha he did before it!

[D-WestFan]

^Remember Lebron's dunk against the Celtics last season in game 6? "With no regard for human life!" That dunk was supposed to rip the heart out of the Celtics and the Celtics were supposed to lose game 7 because of it. LMAO!

Yeah that was **** ridiculous and lame...I've seen LeBron and others do better and more spectacular dunks like that...whopee, an uncontested fast break dunk by an athletic freak, never seen that before. I think Breen had to change his undies after that one!

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i followed a link from the cavs forum, obviously i'm doing a wonderful job of trolling, when i had a valid point that LeBrons dunk wasnt uncontested, it was special because of the circumstances and the DPOY tried to stop him, which he didnt...

Ignorant posts should be able to be responded to, just because i'm not a celtic fan...


it's not like i'm posting in non-cavs related threads...

[ARB729]

just outta curiousity, did Lebron get fined for saying it was a horrible call? Pretty sure any criticism of the refs is a fine but i didnt hear any mention of it when it happened

[MyInsatiableOne]

Alright, D-West fan, so I misremembered a game from last year...blame a full-time job, a wife, 2 kids, and a lack of sleep on it. The point is it certainly wasn't the most spectacular of dunks, at least to these eyes...I remember RIGHT AFTER Breen made that call thinking "seriously?". I mean it was good, yeah, but to elicit that sort of orgasm from Breen? Ridiculous...

just outta curiousity, did Lebron get fined for saying it was a horrible call? Pretty sure any criticism of the refs is a fine but i didnt hear any mention of it when it happened

I never heard of any fine...did Mike Brown get slapped with a fine (or as big a one) as Doc did when they made some pretty negative comments about refs a few months back? I know Doc got hammered...what about Brown?

[cisco]

^Remember Lebron's dunk against the Celtics last season in game 6? "With no regard for human life!" That dunk was supposed to rip the heart out of the Celtics and the Celtics were supposed to lose game 7 because of it. LMAO!

Yeah that was **** ridiculous and lame...I've seen LeBron and others do better and more spectacular dunks like that...whopee, an uncontested fast break dunk by an athletic freak, never seen that before. I think Breen had to change his undies after that one!

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i followed a link from the cavs forum, obviously i'm doing a wonderful job of trolling, when i had a valid point that LeBrons dunk wasnt uncontested, it was special because of the circumstances and the DPOY tried to stop him, which he didnt...

Ignorant posts should be able to be responded to, just because i'm not a celtic fan...


it's not like i'm posting in non-cavs related threads...

The point I was making about the dunk had nothing to do with how special the dunk was. The point I was making is that the experts were saying that the dunk tore the heard out of the Celtics and they probably wouldn't win game 7 because of it. I found that rather funny.

[cisco]

Alright, D-West fan, so I misremembered a game from last year...blame a full-time job, a wife, 2 kids, and a lack of sleep on it. The point is it certainly wasn't the most spectacular of dunks, at least to these eyes...I remember RIGHT AFTER Breen made that call thinking "seriously?". I mean it was good, yeah, but to elicit that sort of orgasm from Breen? Ridiculous...

just outta curiousity, did Lebron get fined for saying it was a horrible call? Pretty sure any criticism of the refs is a fine but i didnt hear any mention of it when it happened

I never heard of any fine...did Mike Brown get slapped with a fine (or as big a one) as Doc did when they made some pretty negative comments about refs a few months back? I know Doc got hammered...what about Brown?

Mike Brown did get fined. Don't remember how much. Of course, no fine for the Lebron. Kings don't get fined.

[MyInsatiableOne]

^Of course not!

And cisco, our points may have differed (I didn't think the dunk was spectacular enough to warrant Breen's on air jeans-creaming) but I think we both agree the C's sort of shrugged and got down to business for the rest of the series!

[UGA Hayes]

Actually the kg shuffle is why I can't go to crazy about some of the stuff other stars get away with. KG pretty much travels every time he does that fadeaway soo..

The guy I'm worried about is Wade. It has kind of gone under the radar b/c his team is mediocre, but he has been getting Dallas Finals level calls during the last few weeks that are far more disturbing than the Lebron stuff.

[MyInsatiableOne]

Actually the kg shuffle is why I can't go to crazy about some of the stuff other stars get away with. KG pretty much travels every time he does that fadeaway soo..

The guy I'm worried about is Wade. It has kind of gone under the radar b/c his team is mediocre, but he has been getting Dallas Finals level calls during the last few weeks that are far more disturbing than the Lebron stuff.

This is what I was saying last week, but all the Miami fanboys were saying I was wrong and that Wade is the G.O.A.T....