Villanueva Posting On Twitter At Halftime Today

europa · Post #161 » by **europa** » Wed Mar 18, 2009 8:20 pm

crkone wrote:
I personally think it's a control issue

Villanueva needs to let it go. He handled things well initially by saying he made a mistake and it wouldn't happen again. That should have been the end of it. A post (or tweet or twit or whatever) like this only reinforces the belief some members of the organization have that he just doesn't get it. Sure it's about control to a degree. But it's also about discipline and the need to have players focused on the task at hand. It isn't asking for too much to ask a player to stay off Twitter for a couple of hours a day when they are doing what they're being paid to do.

Skiles is establishing a way of doing things and now he has to include something I'm guessing he never imagined in a 1,000 years he'd ever have to include. But that's the way it is. He's the man in charge. Villanueva doesn't have to like it. But he has to abide by it if he wants to stay on this team. Questioning Skiles' decision publicly like this isn't a smart move in my opinion.

And Charlie, the difference between a halftime "Tweet" and a halftime interview is the latter is something the team is allowing. The former isn't. That's a pretty significant difference.

jerrod · Post #162 » by **jerrod** » Wed Mar 18, 2009 8:33 pm

as far as i understand it, there's no ban on halftime interviews, just like there was no ban tweeting.

i think having a rule against it now is fine, but the people saying that cv screwed up are just wrong.

aboveAverage · Post #163 » by **aboveAverage** » Wed Mar 18, 2009 8:42 pm

I think Sigra's secret goal is to assemble the most boring, average team possible. I can't even take him seriously anymore, which is a shame because he's a smart fan (or used to be).

But as to the game tonight, the Bucks have no chance if they play like they did on Sunday. We got lucky that Boston was missing every open shot they took. That won't happen tonight. We have to make our shots and our starters have to play better for us to even have a chance in this game.

ninja416 · Post #164 » by **ninja416** » Wed Mar 18, 2009 8:42 pm

Why is this such a big deal? CV didn't say he didn't like that the Bucks stopped him from tweeting.. he is just asking what a halftime interview and his tweet have in difference..

europa · Post #165 » by **europa** » Wed Mar 18, 2009 8:51 pm

jerrod wrote:as far as i understand it, there's no ban on halftime interviews, just like there was no ban tweeting.

There was no ban on tweeting because I'm guessing nobody thought a player would be doing it during a game. So it likely never came up in any discussions about team protocol. Now that it's been a done, a rule has been put in place.

SupremeHustle · Post #166 » by **SupremeHustle** » Wed Mar 18, 2009 9:00 pm

aboveAverage wrote:I think Sigra's secret goal is to assemble the most boring team possible.

Skiles, second row, far right. Youngest GM in sports history, second row, far left. Luke Ridnour the first, No. 5 (led the league in least amount of muscle definition in '20-'21).

trwi7 · Post #167 » by **trwi7** » Wed Mar 18, 2009 9:02 pm

What CV should do is after he gets a big dunk, he should quickly call a timeout, pull his blackberry or iPhone or whatever he tweets with out of his sock and send a tweet.

"Did you guys just see me dunk on that fool?!?!"

europa · Post #168 » by **europa** » Wed Mar 18, 2009 9:04 pm

trwi7 wrote:What CV should do is after he gets a big dunk, he should quickly call a timeout, pull his blackberry or iPhone or whatever he tweets with out of his sock and send a tweet.

"Did you guys just see me dunk on that fool?!?!"

That's sort of been done. Either TO or Chad Johnson (I can't remember which) pulled out a cell phone after scoring a touchdown a couple of years ago. Anybody remember which one of them it was? I wanna say it was TO but I'm not entirely sure about that.

EastSideBucksFan · Post #169 » by **EastSideBucksFan** » Wed Mar 18, 2009 9:04 pm

I haven't read every page of this thread so forgive me if I retread.

But didn't Gilbert Arenas blog during halftime of a game last year? I could be wrong, but I think it happened. Not sure if there was any disciplinary action against him. If there was, I guess we have a precedence.

Maybe I'll look this up now.

trwi7 · Post #170 » by **trwi7** » Wed Mar 18, 2009 9:06 pm

It wasn't either of them. It was Joe Horn pulling a cell phone out from under the padding of the goal post.

SupremeHustle · Post #171 » by **SupremeHustle** » Wed Mar 18, 2009 9:06 pm

europa wrote:
trwi7 wrote:What CV should do is after he gets a big dunk, he should quickly call a timeout, pull his blackberry or iPhone or whatever he tweets with out of his sock and send a tweet.

"Did you guys just see me dunk on that fool?!?!"

That's sort of been done. Either TO or Chad Johnson (I can't remember which) pulled out a cell phone after scoring a touchdown a couple of years ago. Anybody remember which one of them it was? I wanna say it was TO but I'm not entirely sure about that.

Close. Joe Horn.

Debit One · Post #172 » by **Debit One** » Wed Mar 18, 2009 9:07 pm

europa wrote:
jerrod wrote:as far as i understand it, there's no ban on halftime interviews, just like there was no ban tweeting.

There was no ban on tweeting because I'm guessing nobody thought a player would be doing it during a game. So it likely never came up in any discussions about team protocol. Now that it's been a done, a rule has been put in place.

I honestly cannot believe that anyone thinks that what CV did was OK. Seriously, what effing reason is there for an NBA player to be messing with his cell phone during halftime of a game? Is asking them to stay focused on the game really too much to ask?

Sure, it's a control issue for Skiles. Absolutely. A whole LOT of what a coach does is about control, as without it you have chaos.

Do those of you who have no problem with tweeting during halftime think that it would be OK for a player to make a call on his cell phone during halftime to call his mother to chat?

SupremeHustle · Post #173 » by **SupremeHustle** » Wed Mar 18, 2009 9:08 pm

EastSideBucksFan wrote:I haven't read every page of this thread so forgive me if I retread.

But didn't Gilbert Arenas blog during halftime of a game last year? I could be wrong, but I think it happened. Not sure if there was any disciplinary action against him. If there was, I guess we have a precedence.

Maybe I'll look this up now.

He played Halo at halftime.

europa · Post #174 » by **europa** » Wed Mar 18, 2009 9:09 pm

trwi7 wrote:It wasn't either of them. It was Joe Horn pulling a cell phone out from under the padding of the goal post.

At least I got the position right.

LUKE23 · Post #175 » by **LUKE23** » Wed Mar 18, 2009 9:11 pm

Do those of you who have no problem with tweeting during halftime think that it would be OK for a player to make a call on his cell phone during halftime to call his mother to chat?

I happen to think this is being blown out of proportion (I'm not saying I condone it, just that I don't find it to be a big deal), but I have to disagree that tweeting and making a phone call are the same thing. One is audible and most likely takes more time, one is quick and is not heard.

But either way, ahhh, whatever.....

SupremeHustle · Post #176 » by **SupremeHustle** » Wed Mar 18, 2009 9:11 pm

Debit One wrote:
europa wrote:
jerrod wrote:as far as i understand it, there's no ban on halftime interviews, just like there was no ban tweeting.

There was no ban on tweeting because I'm guessing nobody thought a player would be doing it during a game. So it likely never came up in any discussions about team protocol. Now that it's been a done, a rule has been put in place.

I honestly cannot believe that anyone thinks that what CV did was OK. Seriously, what effing reason is there for an NBA player to be messing with his cell phone during halftime of a game? Is asking them to stay focused on the game really too much to ask?

Sure, it's a control issue for Skiles. Absolutely. A whole LOT of what a coach does is about control, as without it you have chaos.

Do those of you who have no problem with tweeting during halftime think that it would be OK for a player to make a call on his cell phone during halftime to call his mother to chat?

Would you have a problem if he prayed during halftime?

europa · Post #177 » by **europa** » Wed Mar 18, 2009 9:12 pm

Debit One wrote:
europa wrote:
jerrod wrote:as far as i understand it, there's no ban on halftime interviews, just like there was no ban tweeting.

There was no ban on tweeting because I'm guessing nobody thought a player would be doing it during a game. So it likely never came up in any discussions about team protocol. Now that it's been a done, a rule has been put in place.

I honestly cannot believe that anyone thinks that what CV did was OK. Seriously, what effing reason is there for an NBA player to be messing with his cell phone during halftime of a game? Is asking them to stay focused on the game really too much to ask?

I agree. I don't think it was a major transgression by any means. But it wasn't a smart thing to do and in my opinion Skiles has every right to be upset about it. The game last 21/2 hours. It's not asking too much to stay off Twitter during that time.

For what it's worth, Villanueva doesn't seem like he wants to let it go. He's asking players from around the league what they think the "next level" of Twittering is going to be.

Charlie, you f'd up. It's that plain and simple. Deal with it, move on, don't do it again and let it go.

LUKE23 · Post #178 » by **LUKE23** » Wed Mar 18, 2009 9:13 pm

Skiles, second row, far right. Youngest GM in sports history, second row, far left. Luke Ridnour the first, No. 5 (led the league in least amount of muscle definition in '20-'21).

They play the right way though. It doesn't matter that they won 25 games.

Post #179 » by **ReasonablySober** » Wed Mar 18, 2009 9:13 pm

Debit One wrote:Do those of you who have no problem with tweeting during halftime think that it would be OK for a player to make a call on his cell phone during halftime to call his mother to chat?

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You honestly believe that players don't make phone calls during half time? Really?

EastSideBucksFan · Post #180 » by **EastSideBucksFan** » Wed Mar 18, 2009 9:16 pm

Yeah, I read Gilbert is a big halo fan, but the info I see over and over is he avidly plays video poker during halftime.

Kind of similar, but a bit different than the CV31 situation.

But Gilbert has the whole Wizards organization wrapped around his finger he can pretty get away with whatever he wants. He's like a big kid and daddy warbucks just keeps upping his allowance no matter how much of a brat he is.

I've never been in an NBA locker room during halftime and I can't conjecture on what the best methodology for halftime is.

But from a coaches perspective, I can't see him wanting guys playing video games and sitting on their phones texting to friends or the public.

I think I would want guys to get either physical treatment like stretching, massages, ice/heat whatever they may need. The other guys should be getting mentally prepared for the 2nd half. Watch game tape. Look at and talk about what went right and what went wrong during the first half.

Skiles should have control over his players during work hours and especially during games. Halftime is important and I'd say its much more productive to stay focused on the game rather than let guys space out and chill during half.