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Pat White - Hypothetical 

Post#1 » by Friend_Of_Haley » Thu Mar 19, 2009 8:42 pm

So Icness's last mock has us going with Pat White in Rd 2.

So I thought I'd lay out a few hypothetical scenarios. The ultimate hypothetical it leads to will never happen, but lets play along.

Maclin or Heyward-Bey aren't available at our pick. You decide to trade down to the late first early second and pick up an additional second. We'll say we get a high second and a low second.

Then we drafted like so:
Rd2a- Robert Ayers- DE or Louis Delmas- FS or WR (BPA-Britt,Williams,Robiskie,etc)
Rd2b- Phil Loadholt- RT
Rd2c- Pat White
Rd3- BPA (WR/DE/FS) -whatever we didn't address before
Rd3/4*- BPA (WR/DE/FS) -whatever we didn't address before
Rd4-7- Whatever, BPA, RB, LB, CB, anything
*Comp pick for Berrian

Oh wait, I didn't put Pat White's position!

The Bears have decided (this is the part that will never happen) to run the Wildcat offense part time using Pat White. He'll also be used as a back up WR. We'll only carry two QBs- Orton and Hanie since White could be the emergency third stringer from game to game. If Orton or Hanie was injured, you'd sign an additional QB to be the main backup, but you don't really need a "true" third stringer on a game to game basis.

The general theory behind this idea is that Pat White's throwing capability make it harder to defend. With Hester and Forte, we have a lot of solid options as well.

Would you be happy? Could you go for this. The Bears would be implementing this offense more widespread than any team has previously. Our depth looks something like:
QB-Orton, Hanie, White (wildcat)
RB-Forte, Wolfe, Jones, Peterson
FB-Davis
WR-Hester, Bennett, White, Draft Pick (Rd2/3/4), Davis
TE-Olsen, Clark, Davis
OL- Williams, Beekman, Kruetz, Garza, Omilaye, Loadholt, Buenning

DE-Brown, Ogun, Draft Pick (Rd2/3/4), Anderson, Idonije
DT-Harris, Harrison, Dusty, Adams, Idonije
LB- Urlacher, Briggs, Roach, Williams, Hillenmeyer, LaRoqcue
CB- Tillman, Vasher, Graham, McBride, Hamilton
S- Payne, Steltz, Manning, Bullocks, Draft Pick (Rd2/3/4), Bowman
K- Gould
P- Maynard
LS-Mannelly

(That was just a quick and lazy depth to give an idea)

Would you be excited as a Bears fan to see them try something a little more inovative like this? What if they really took it a step further and made Percy Harvin that early second round choice.
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Re: Pat White - Hypothetical 

Post#2 » by Chewie » Fri Mar 20, 2009 1:27 am

I like that you're thinking outside the box and White still could end up being a true QB despite what McShay keeps saying on ESPN. White has resisted the WR possibility and has yet to run a single route for scouts. I'd probably take the that 2a pick and go best WR available - probably Britt. Harvin's too similar to Hester - there are better compliments to be had.
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Post#3 » by emperorjones » Fri Mar 20, 2009 1:15 pm

Personally I'm not a fan of the Wildcat. This offseason, I think most DCs will devise various plans to neutralize it. I don't like White's size as a QB but haven't seen enough of him to play to make a comment - That said, I love your idea to change things up and add some innovation. It would be nice to have the Bears be the innovators once again like we were under Buddy Ryan.
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Post#4 » by Friend_Of_Haley » Fri Mar 20, 2009 6:01 pm

emperorjones wrote:Personally I'm not a fan of the Wildcat. This offseason, I think most DCs will devise various plans to neutralize it. I don't like White's size as a QB but haven't seen enough of him to play to make a comment - That said, I love your idea to change things up and add some innovation. It would be nice to have the Bears be the innovators once again like we were under Buddy Ryan.

I agree Coordinators will be able to devise schemes to stop a run based attack, but if your "QB" is a real threat to throw it, it makes it that much harder to defend. Especially with someone like Hester. If the DC pulls up a safety for the run, Hester can get isolated and only has to beat the CB. If you keep the safety back to respect Hester, you have the blocking advantage.

I saw some quote from Lovie saying the Wildcat offense will die a quiet death because Coordinators will find ways to defend it. I'm not so sure. And maybe Lovie knows the Bears are considering going in that direction and is kind of bluffing.
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Post#5 » by Friend_Of_Haley » Fri Mar 20, 2009 6:42 pm

Also I agree Harvin is too similar to Hester if you were running a traditional offense, but if your intention was to run the Wildcat extensively (20-30% of the snaps) Hester and Harvin provide with a lot of tools to play with. With those two on the outside, you can't pull up both safetys and maybe not even one. Then you're talikng about White and Forte with a huge blocking advantage in the run game. Pull up the safetys on the run and one of Hester or Harvin is bound to beat you deep. They are also both threats for reverses and other things.

It won't happen, but it would be really interesting to see.
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Post#6 » by emperorjones » Fri Mar 20, 2009 8:13 pm

Well, at a minimum the Bears would definitely become my team of choice on Madden Football.
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Post#7 » by Friend_Of_Haley » Fri Mar 20, 2009 8:49 pm

They aren't already?

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Post#8 » by emperorjones » Fri Mar 20, 2009 10:04 pm

Hey I got a top 150 ranking in Madden Football a few years back and it definately NOT from playing the Bears - My Bears allegiance stops with the video game controller! LOL
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Post#9 » by Friend_Of_Haley » Sun Mar 22, 2009 4:00 pm

Here's what Icness had to say about the Bears and White:
They like his potential for development at QB without the pressure to play him right away. They really do not want to take a QB in the 1st because they respect Orton enough (among other reasons), but in the 2nd they can justify him not playing at QB next year. And he can contribute in Wildcat packages or a few snaps as a Slash-type, like on 3rd and short or goal line sets which is something they are focused on improving. They spent an inordinate amount of time with him at both the Senior Bowl and Combine and he's the type of person Lovie loves.
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Re: Pat White - Hypothetical 

Post#10 » by Chewie » Sun Mar 22, 2009 5:34 pm

Lord. THAT'S how you end up with mediocrity at the QB position since the 40's.

So we wouldn't take a shot at a 1st rd QB we like because we wouldn't want to hurt Orton's feelings ? Better be sure to call Kyle to make sure he won't get his panties in a bunch if we take a QB in Rd2 as well.
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