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[hands11]

Fun fact: McGuire, N1, Critt, and Opec were a combined 7-29. That's less than 25% folks!

Nice game from McGee. Still flails around a lot but lots of flashes. Blatche is looking reliable. Still not good enough to take over for Jamison though.

Would really like to know why the three point defense sucks so much.

He doesn't have to replace him as much has play next to him or CB.

When we get everyone back we will be a good team. We should be marginally better then we were before but still have a hump to get over to be elite and that will have a lot to do with GA. If he returns Hibatchi we won't be great unless he moves to SG and we get a mature PG. Basically we have a better DMAC with McGee as raw talent instead of a mature Mason at SG. Long term we are better off but short term, we are missing a Mason SG unless GA moves there then we have upgraded.

We are still headed in the right direction though. We have pieces. We have an owner willing to go over to cap while we are building the final product. The next 2 years should be very interesting. This is what we have been building up to. First we have to evaluate what we have when healthy. Then we need to make the needed moves to complete the product.

We should be competitive again next year then it will be make or break getting to the next level. We should be a middle of pack playoff team with upside

This is a big summer for a lot of young players.

Example. Crit is a fine trapping spark player off the bench but will he be more then that.
McGee is a freak but can he develop a game with all that talent. I think yes but when ?
DMAC needs to keep adding to his shot
Nick needs to keep developing his 3 and a complete pro game that is reliable.
OP is even still in the running. He has skills.

Then its going to be about GA, CB and AJ. How do we use them. Do they all stay. Can we get one to come off the bench ? Do we add a vet PG ? Again, that has to do with Gil. I think we need to go one way or the other with him. He either needs to be a Chris Paul or be needs to move to SG. We don't need an AI. That is a loosing formula. Maybe he can balance his 2 roles.

And for all the Blake Griffin love, I'm not sold on him yet. Granted, I haven't seen him play a lot. It's just a gut feeling. I can't really put any logic to it. I think he will be good just not sure he will be great as in #1 great. But again, it's just a gut thing. I haven't seen him much. I just don't see him here.

LOL. Just watching the 4th again. When McGee drove hard to the hoop at 3min CB jumped off the ground and Haywood was hooting. They really liked to the strong baby hook to the hoop. That should be his move. Hopefully we see more of that move before the year is out. Just a guess, but I think Haywood thought him that. That is a Haywood move and it explains why Haywood was so excited to see him pull it off. Having Haywood in practice should really start to help McGee.

Actually, if McGee can get close to as good as Haywood ASAP, we should be dangerous. Either we are way deeper at center then we have ever been or we get to see some Haywood and McGee and even Haywood, McGee, Blatche, DMAC, GA. That should be nasty.

Actually all kinds of line ups good be nasty

Haywood, McGee, AJ, CB, GA
Haywood, McGee, DSong, DMAC, GA

Next year should be very interesting.

[yungal07]

That was a horrible horrible game. There was nothing positive to take from it. Everyone played like ****. I honestly want to start this team over with hopefully Griffin, Arenas, Haywood, and McGee. Everyone else can sent away for all I care.

[DaRealHibachi]

That was a horrible horrible game. There was nothing positive to take from it. Everyone played like ****. I honestly want to start this team over with hopefully Griffin, Arenas, Haywood, and McGee. Everyone else can sent away for all I care.

No McGuire..???

[ZonkertheBrainless]

I think the team of two years ago had two main flaws, lousy perimeter defense and no bench. IF EVERYONE IS HEALTHY *knocks wood, kills a chicken* they have already addressed the bench. Now they just need to use the new coach and the high draft pick to address their inability to stay in front of people. McGuire can address that problem a little bit. Brendan and McGee should allow the new coach to not have to have everyone sag into the paint. We should be ok, even if GA is only at 80%.

Just have to worry about the luxury tax now.

[FreeBalling]

All the young players getting plenty of minutes.


Everyone should be happy.

You know it,

Jamison playing 38 min in a 30 point loss is my only bitch.

[FreeBalling]

Fun fact: McGuire, N1, Critt, and Opec were a combined 7-29. That's less than 25% folks!

Nice game from McGee. Still flails around a lot but lots of flashes. Blatche is looking reliable. Still not good enough to take over for Jamison though.

Would really like to know why the three point defense sucks so much.

Last night was pick you poison,

1. Blatche (aka Hooker Boy) -36 (+/-) WOW that's high.
2. DMAC -31 (+/-)
3. 3 point shot TEAM 2 of 15 for 15%
4. NY 3-11 0-4(3's) 29 min

I not sold on Critt, he looks lost just playing the game. I just dont see it. With Mcgee you can see it.

[Dat2U]

That was a horrible horrible game. There was nothing positive to take from it. Everyone played like ****. I honestly want to start this team over with hopefully Griffin, Arenas, Haywood, and McGee. Everyone else can sent away for all I care.

I with you on this. Keep Gil, Brendan & Javale, pray for Griffin and blow up the rest of this crap up.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

I'd blow up the coaching staff completely before I did anything radical with the roster.

I'd trade Jamison or Butler for a SG.

I'd evaluate young players by their strengths:

Pecherov's per-36 is 16 points, 9.5 rebounds, and he's hitting 34% on threes. Not even scratching the surface of his potential at 23 years old. 15.5 PER.

Blatche was top-5 in block percentage and is a solid defender and rebounder and a passing big man with good handles. As much as people bad mouth him here I could see him playing minutes on a good team like the Spurs, who could have used him more than Gooden. Blatche's contract and youth, 22, make me think he's being undervalued here.

Nick Young can score the basketball fairly efficiently.

McGee is a no-brains keeper. He's had 29 points and 15 rebounds his last 40 mins.

McGuire is a good fit at SG next to Gil.

I'd trade any of the young guys except McGee if Griffin was the pick just to get somebody to take Jamison or Butler's contracts and probably Stevenson's. Wizards wil NEVER be very good with those two at F. One has got to go.

THE MAIN GUY I'd trade would be Gilbert Arenas because his health and his contract don't make a bit of sense. As soon as he becomes a hot commodity again I'd trade him to relieve the cap concerns.

[Dat2U]

THE MAIN GUY I'd trade would be Gilbert Arenas because his health and his contract don't make a bit of sense. As soon as he becomes a hot commodity again I'd trade him to relieve the cap concerns.

If Gil becomes a hot commodity again, why in hell would you want to trade him? For cap concerns? Please, dump the rest of this crap called a roster for cap concerns. Keep the #1 option and only real game changer (outside of Wood) on the team.

Shouldn't it be apparent to you that this team is a bunch of worthless garbage without said #1 option and without Wood?

If Gil gets to become that "hot commodity" again then it should be the best news that a Wizard fan can hear. If he's back to being the man, he's worth the money. The guys who aren't worth the money are Songaila, Stevenson, Thomas and James. That's like 21-22 million of dead cap right there.

[Dat2U]

When we get everyone back we will be a good team. We should be marginally better then we were before but still have a hump to get over to be elite and that will have a lot to do with GA. If he returns Hibatchi we won't be great unless he moves to SG and we get a mature PG. ....

We are still headed in the right direction though. We have pieces. We have an owner willing to go over to cap while we are building the final product. The next 2 years should be very interesting. This is what we have been building up to. First we have to evaluate what we have when healthy. Then we need to make the needed moves to complete the product.

Yeah, Gil is the one holding this great team back. We've got a lot of great pieces (cough, 16-55, cough) but until Gil morphs into Steve Nash were stuck where we are.

Just think of cow that sounds.

You get more ridicalous by the dane.

[DaRealHibachi]

McGuire anybody...??? No one down with DMac if we blow this mother up...???

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

THE MAIN GUY I'd trade would be Gilbert Arenas because his health and his contract don't make a bit of sense. As soon as he becomes a hot commodity again I'd trade him to relieve the cap concerns.

If Gil becomes a hot commodity again, why in hell would you want to trade him? For cap concerns? Please, dump the rest of this crap called a roster for cap concerns. Keep the #1 option and only real game changer (outside of Wood) on the team.

Shouldn't it be apparent to you that this team is a bunch of worthless garbage without said #1 option and without Wood?

If Gil gets to become that "hot commodity" again then it should be the best news that a Wizard fan can hear. If he's back to being the man, he's worth the money. The guys who aren't worth the money are Songaila, Stevenson, Thomas and James. That's like 21-22 million of dead cap right there.

Injuries will eventually rob him of quickness and limit his career, most likely.

I honestly believe other PGs can win games with defense and just competent offense. Given Arenas' history of injuries I'm thinking no matter how good he comes back, the knee is likely to be an issue again.

That's why I'd trade him.

THAT SAID I see that two guys who were chronically injured 5-6 years ago, and who were even traded for each other once, have had several productive years: Antonio McDyess (who's beasting on the boards right now) and Marcus Camby (had great blocks and rebounds for years prior to this season). Also, Kidd's playing well enough after knee surgery.

So, I'll refute my own argument with that above. I could be wrong, but I'm thinking 60% chance the Wizards would be better off trading him.

[Dat2U]

Injuries will eventually rob him of quickness and limit his career, most likely.

I honestly believe other PGs can win games with defense and just competent offense. Given Arenas' history of injuries I'm thinking no matter how good he comes back, the knee is likely to be an issue again.

That's why I'd trade him.

THAT SAID I see that two guys who were chronically injured 5-6 years ago, and who were even traded for each other once, have had several productive years: Antonio McDyess (who's beasting on the boards right now) and Marcus Camby (had great blocks and rebounds for years prior to this season). Also, Kidd's playing well enough after knee surgery.

So, I'll refute my own argument with that above. I could be wrong, but I'm thinking 60% chance the Wizards would be better off trading him.

Other PGs can win games with defense and just competent offense. Your completely right. But you left out one huge part of the equation. Those PGs are playing with a legit 1st option. A guy you mention alot, Mario Chalmers, can play very good defense and hit an open shot. But you know what makes that team go? Dwyane Wade. Without Wade, Chalmers would be a starting PG for a 10 win team.

Not saying Gil is Wade, but he's our version of Wade. He creates his own shot, makes coaches game plan around him, gets opposing bigs in foul trouble and creates easy shots for other people with just his presence. We have no one else even remotely close to replacing that guy.

To me, its a bigger risk to trade a #1 option for the hope of finding another. We all know the deal with Gil's injury. It was a friggin meniscus tear. If anyone had a brain from the front office, to the training staff to the locker room, Gil would have been back playing a long time ago. There's always a risk associated with going under the knife but there's nothing that's been done to Gil's knee that one would consider career changing. It just took two years to realize the best way to heal an injury is by resting it!

I'd say using his current injury to predict future injuries is a bit laughable. Unless the guy is a Larry Hughes type, someone who physically breaks down every NBA season, its a stretch to bet the house on what will happen down the road.

I've said in the past, the two most important assets a team can have is a legit #1 scoring option and low post anchor who can challenge shots. Those are two of the hardest type of players to find. We are blessed with both. Unless you can replace Gil with a #1 option, it would be all sorts of stupid to just dump him b/c of what your little crystal ball says.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Other PGs can win games with defense and just competent offense. Your completely right. But you left out one huge part of the equation. Those PGs are playing with a legit 1st option. A guy you mention alot, Mario Chalmers, can play very good defense and hit an open shot. But you know what makes that team go? Dwyane Wade. Without Wade, Chalmers would be a starting PG for a 10 win team.

Not saying Gil is Wade, but he's our version of Wade. He creates his own shot, makes coaches game plan around him, gets opposing bigs in foul trouble and creates easy shots for other people with just his presence. We have no one else even remotely close to replacing that guy.

To me, its a bigger risk to trade a #1 option for the hope of finding another. We all know the deal with Gil's injury. It was a friggin meniscus tear. If anyone had a brain from the front office, to the training staff to the locker room, Gil would have been back playing a long time ago. There's always a risk associated with going under the knife but there's nothing that's been done to Gil's knee that one would consider career changing. It just took two years to realize the best way to heal an injury is by resting it!

I'd say using his current injury to predict future injuries is a bit laughable. Unless the guy is a Larry Hughes type, someone who physically breaks down every NBA season, its a stretch to bet the house on what will happen down the road.

I've said in the past, the two most important assets a team can have is a legit #1 scoring option and low post anchor who can challenge shots. Those are two of the hardest type of players to find. We are blessed with both. Unless you can replace Gil with a #1 option, it would be all sorts of stupid to just dump him b/c of what your little crystal ball says.

Dat, you and many others said I was wrong to say don't sign Gil to that contract because he'll get hurt again. I predicted what has been an entire season on the injured list, based on his past surgeries.

Now I'm saying he spent the whole season injured. He needed the whole season to rest his meniscus tear? And I'm to assume he'll be good to go from here on out and be the Gil of old? I don't think so.

As for replacing a #1 option, if you look at what generated my posts above it was the statement about blowing up the team. I replace Gil AFTER trading one of Butler or Jamison for a stud SG, and HOPE AGAINST HOPE after drafting Blake Griffin (not likely, but it's good to dream).

That team would have plenty of scoring and could win with a Rondo or a Chalmers-type guard.

I evaluate Gilbert based on his injuries, his salary, and what I know about his leadership in the past. Looking at his contract and this season I would be looking to trade him one day barring miraculous healing.

That's just my opinion, which I have said could be wrong.