Kings Vs. Sixers @ Arco

[murray]

Don't sleep on Monroe, this kids the real deal, a TON of potential.

The difference is Griffin has more potential, and has already started tapping into it. He is NBA ready, and still has loads more potential. Monroe is not NBA ready, and has some of the potential Griffin does. If Griffin is off the board, do not expect the Kings to draft a big man.

[KingInExile]

I was talking at about a third of the way through the 1st quarter. We had like low twentys at that point. If you think a 17 point 1st quarter is efficient offense, you are terribly wrong.

It's rather interesting how you can twist the statement "The team's offense has not been all that bad overall...outside of their putrid turnover rate" into any kind of comment on offensive efficiency. Guess you're just looking for your next point to argue about.

You said

The team's offense has not been all that bad overall

... NO 17 points on poor shooting in the first quarter does not look good. It does look bad overall. And that is no twist. Sorry but a pace for 68 points is not good offense. How did I twist that?

And as I predicted, here comes the attempt to argue the point.

[SacKingZZZ]

The difference is Griffin has more potential, and has already started tapping into it. He is NBA ready, and still has loads more potential. Monroe is not NBA ready, and has some of the potential Griffin does. If Griffin is off the board, do not expect the Kings to draft a big man.

Not to turn this into another "draft" thread but they're different players. Griffin has shown serious court vision, knows the high post system, looks to be a legit shotblocker, potential steady mid range jump shooter (out to 3 point range), and a strong yet finesse type of post game. On the flipside he doesn't rebound well, at least numerically speaking, and isn't a jaw dropping athlete. Griffin is both of those, a beast on the boards, a bull down low (can he adjust his game in the NBA?), but doesn't have much of a mid-range game, and odds are he won't be much of a shotblocker.

[RoyalCourtJestr]

The difference is Griffin has more potential, and has already started tapping into it. He is NBA ready, and still has loads more potential. Monroe is not NBA ready, and has some of the potential Griffin does. If Griffin is off the board, do not expect the Kings to draft a big man.

Not to turn this into another "draft" thread but they're different players. Griffin has shown serious court vision, knows the high post system, looks to be a legit shotblocker, potential steady mid range jump shooter (out to 3 point range), and a strong yet finesse type of post game. On the flipside he doesn't rebound well, at least numerically speaking, and isn't a jaw dropping athlete. Griffin is both of those, a beast on the boards, a bull down low (can he adjust his game in the NBA?), but doesn't have much of a mid-range game, and odds are he won't be much of a shotblocker.

Your wording confuses me. I think you ment MONROE in the first one?

I won't say odds are against Griffin to become a good shotblocker... he has decent defensive potential, and with his virticle and strength, it's all in his timing now.

Reguardless, you won't find a scout in the country who'd pick Monroe over Griffin right now.

[murray]

KIE Wrote: And as I predicted, here comes the attempt to argue the point.

Sorry KIE, you are not sucking me in. Please just don't twist my words around.

[Cruel_Ruin]

That's what we've been waiting for! With him anchoring the high post, this team can be dangerous in the next couple of years. We just need guys around him to click better.

Hawes in March:
15.7 ppg
7.1 rpg
3.6 apg

Defensive rebounding will come with experience and more beef on his frame, but I think he's got oceans of potential. He could become a rich man's Pau Gasol.

[pillwenney]

AWESOME game by Martin. 16 points on 4/14 shooting (1/8 from 3), with a whopping 3 rebounds! Man, I wouldn't even trade this kid for Michael Jordan in his prime!

To be serious, I'd argue that Hawes is much more important to this team than Martin.

"He had a bad game for the first time in almost two weeks! ATTACK!"

And I'd argue that Kevin is still the more important player right now simply by virtue of his greater talent, but I think that if Spencer continues on the road he's on, he'll likely be the more important player down the line. The only reason I would say that Spencer is maybe more important right now is that we have very poor frontline depth.

[NATHANBIBBY]

Yeah Martin had a poor game tonight, the first in a while which is why we lost by 12 points and not 6, We lost tonight because A.I., Young, Speights, and Louis Williams combined for 82 points at a high percentage, Defence killed us tonight

[murray]

Actually Nathan, If we are going by averages, this would have been a two or three point game, and you know how one bounce of the ball can decide those. But, yes our defense was terrible.

[UKF]

Griffin is gonna look very nice next to Hawes

It's not a for sure thing that we get that #1 pick. The worst team rarely gets that number one pick. We will see what happens though...

[SacKingZZZ]

Your wording confuses me. I think you ment MONROE in the first one?

I won't say odds are against Griffin to become a good shotblocker... he has decent defensive potential, and with his virticle and strength, it's all in his timing now.

Reguardless, you won't find a scout in the country who'd pick Monroe over Griffin right now.

Yeah, I edited at the last second and put two sentences together without realizing it still said Griffin, I meant Monroe.

[SacKingZZZ]

That's what we've been waiting for! With him anchoring the high post, this team can be dangerous in the next couple of years. We just need guys around him to click better.

Hawes in March:
15.7 ppg
7.1 rpg
3.6 apg

Defensive rebounding will come with experience and more beef on his frame, but I think he's got oceans of potential. He could become a rich man's Pau Gasol.

His shotblocking has gone AWOL though.

[Smills91]

You have some nice pieces, Hawes is a solid low post player. Thompson a nice banger. It's just Udrih, after his contract season he seems incapable of running the offense.

You're spot on.

[Smills91]

Damn, Hawes is about to make the leap into stardom. Nearly got a triple double today. Would have been the second youngest player to get a triple double, after Lebron

That's what we've been waiting for! With him anchoring the high post, this team can be dangerous in the next couple of years. We just need guys around him to click better.

We need a damn Point Guard!