Jazz (46-27) @ Blazers (46-27)

[HammerDunk]

Do you guys typically complain about the refs all game even when the refs call 3 more foul on the opposing team despite Utah being one of the most physical teams in the league?

I thought Oden got jobbed twice, yet I see a post saying Oden is getting calls? When did he get a call? Was it the time he fell forward trying to get a rebound? Oden is not going to flop or fall to the floor like that just to attempt to draw a foul. I think Oden and every Blazer fan is scared anytime he goes down.

Pryzbilla drew a charge in the restricted area that was a horrible call. Oden had his arm held by Boozer when going up for a shoot that was a horrible no call. Those things happen. The fouls were in Utah's favor, Utah made as many FT's as Portland attempted, yet that isn't good enough?

Utah has given up 122 and 123 points to Portland in their last two meetings, so maybe you should complain about Okur, Korver, Miles, and Brewer's soft defense, or the fact that your PF's forward try to strip the ball every time in the key instead contesting the shot.

Read my other posts homer, I did complain about the soft defense. The Jazz simply didn't show up tonight.

At the same time, the officiating was terrible, and took away any chance the Jazz may have had to be in this game. Oden got away with a lot in that game, to say otherwise is showing how blind you are. He walked, no call. He did what he wanted underneath without many calls.

Sure the Jazz had more FTs, but how many of those came when the game was clearly out of reach?

[DmoneyH3]

The refs were bad all around, they no way, shape, or form kept Utah out of the game.
We just wanted it more and did whatever we wanted on offense. Your lack of interior defense really makes it tough to stop most teams. Not sure why you guys didn't go after a Marcus Camby type last offseason.

[jazzfan1971]

I don't think the refs forced the Jazz to allow you guys to shoot 60%.

You have to take some blame on the team there.

[Reckless]

jazz can't blame the refs for the blazers making shots after shot

[Soul Patch]

No excuses. Our **** ass defense and lack of effort is what did it.

[Reckless]

must have been a fun game to watch...for a blazer fan

[JordanL]

must have been a fun game to watch...for a blazer fan

I must confess it was.

The injury bug really screwed you guys quite a bit this season, which always sucks. I wouldn't worry too much, you guys got a solid team that will probably improve next year with the emergence of Milsap and the departure of Boozer, (who I honestly think will be addition by subtraction).

[Tince]

Do you guys typically complain about the refs all game even when the refs call 3 more foul on the opposing team despite Utah being one of the most physical teams in the league?

I thought Oden got jobbed twice, yet I see a post saying Oden is getting calls? When did he get a call? Was it the time he fell forward trying to get a rebound? Oden is not going to flop or fall to the floor like that just to attempt to draw a foul. I think Oden and every Blazer fan is scared anytime he goes down.

Pryzbilla drew a charge in the restricted area that was a horrible call. Oden had his arm held by Boozer when going up for a shoot that was a horrible no call. Those things happen. The fouls were in Utah's favor, Utah made as many FT's as Portland attempted, yet that isn't good enough?

Utah has given up 122 and 123 points to Portland in their last two meetings, so maybe you should complain about Okur, Korver, Miles, and Brewer's soft defense, or the fact that your PF's forward try to strip the ball every time in the key instead contesting the shot.

Read my other posts homer, I did complain about the soft defense. The Jazz simply didn't show up tonight.

At the same time, the officiating was terrible, and took away any chance the Jazz may have had to be in this game. Oden got away with a lot in that game, to say otherwise is showing how blind you are. He walked, no call. He did what he wanted underneath without many calls.

Sure the Jazz had more FTs, but how many of those came when the game was clearly out of reach?

I love your examples of what Oden "got away with." All you came up with was one non-specific example of him traveling. You mean, and NBA player got away with traveling? How about the time Okur caught the ball with both feet on the 3pt line, and without dribbling ends up switching both pivot feet and shooting a 3? Was I up in arms about this? No.

I know Portland got a couple good calls, but to act like it was totally one-sided shows who the real homer is.

If you want to site specific examples, that would be great. I agree with you that Oden did what he wanted underneath without many calls. That usually what happens when a over powered player attempts to block out a huge center like Oden. There is nothing against the rules with dominating the paint.

[erudite23]

This team is not going anywhere this year. Its very sad, but obviously true.

I thought that as we became healthy we would shape up into the juggernaut we were at the end of last season. Instead we have simply failed to show up for big game after big game, and choked away chances to win games we should have won.


As to the game, any Blazer fan who honestly tries to excuse that joke of officiating that went on last night should be taken out and strung up.

The charging call against Paul Millsap was perhaps the worst call I have ever seen, homerism aside. Joel P was standing in damn near the very middle of the circle and had his back turned a second before the contact. HE WAS TURNING AROUND AS MILLSAP CAME INTO HIM...and yet it was called a charge.


All the same, it wouldn't have mattered. No team in the NBA would have beaten the Blazers the way they were shooting the ball last night. You could make the argument that the Jazz could have done something to throw them off by getting more physical and making some bodies hit the floor, but the reality is that they just had their best offensive game of the year by a fair margin. Moreover, it was probably the best performance by a Blazer team in this decade. It just wasn't going to be stopped. You have to tip your hats to them.

[Wizenheimer]

As to the game, any Blazer fan who honestly tries to excuse that joke of officiating that went on last night should be taken out and strung up.

The charging call against Paul Millsap was perhaps the worst call I have ever seen, homerism aside. Joel P was standing in damn near the very middle of the circle and had his back turned a second before the contact. HE WAS TURNING AROUND AS MILLSAP CAME INTO HIM...and yet it was called a charge.

you need to review the rules concerning the under-basket circle. That circle does not exist if the offensive player receives a pass in the lower box (as defined by the median slashmarks-extended on the outside of the key). That is where Millsap caught that pass making an offensive foul inside the circle possible. Pryzbilla was stationary as well. An offensive player can't charge into a stationary defensive player, chest, side, or back. It was a close call, but your interpretation is incorrect.

[seejaydeja]

Any Jazz fan that thinks this game was decided in anyway by the refs is completely blind.

The Blazers wanted to win more. That is all. The jazz had no hustle, heart or effort. They played with the same pussy ass pushover attitude they've been playing with on the road all season. I've never seen a Sloan coached team in my life that plays with such little physicality and determination to win. With the exception of a handful of guys, on the team (dwill, korver, sap and brew) I don't give a **** about anyone else, because from the kind of effort they put into last nights game, it's obviously they don't give a **** about winning.

[GOBlazers]

LOL, the officiating was horrible for both sides. PERIOD.

I called it in the first quarter that Sloan was going to get ejected, Boozer and Przybilla surprised me though.

[Racer X]

LOL, the officiating was horrible for both sides. PERIOD.

I called it in the first quarter that Sloan was going to get ejected, Boozer and Przybilla surprised me though.

Dont get us wrong. The officiating was not what decided the game, even though the Blazers were definitely getting the benefit of the calls (even if some got missed for them). The reason the Jazz lost the game was because the Blazers hit them in the mouth in the first couple of minutes of the game and the Jazz players folded like a bunch of pussies.

[erudite23]

As to the game, any Blazer fan who honestly tries to excuse that joke of officiating that went on last night should be taken out and strung up.

The charging call against Paul Millsap was perhaps the worst call I have ever seen, homerism aside. Joel P was standing in damn near the very middle of the circle and had his back turned a second before the contact. HE WAS TURNING AROUND AS MILLSAP CAME INTO HIM...and yet it was called a charge.

you need to review the rules concerning the under-basket circle. That circle does not exist if the offensive player receives a pass in the lower box (as defined by the median slashmarks-extended on the outside of the key). That is where Millsap caught that pass making an offensive foul inside the circle possible. Pryzbilla was stationary as well. An offensive player can't charge into a stationary defensive player, chest, side, or back. It was a close call, but your interpretation is incorrect.

1) Link? Or are you just going to throw stuff out there that sounds good without backing it up? My understanding of the rule is that the only circumstance in which the circle does not apply is if the defender is engaged in man-to-man defense with the offensive player. I could be wrong, but I'd like to see some evidence.

2) Even if that is the case, Pryzbilla was turning around and shifting to the right. I don't care if that play occurs at mid court, it's still a blocking call 99.999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999% of the time.

3) There were some really bad calls that went against the Blazers, but for the most part they all came after the game was decided. I would not say that Oden got "every call" like some of my fellow Jazz posters have asserted, but he certainly got away with a lot of pushing and shoving. Had the referees called him like they should have, he would have fouled it with on 6 minutes played. He was basically pushing and shoving illegally every second he was in the paint.

4) Even if the game had been called fairly, it still likely would not have mattered. Any team shooting like that is going to win unless they are getting killed in every other aspect of the game. It's really that simple.