Wiretap: Senate OKs Stadium Rescue Plan For Pacers

TJFordisGod · Post #1 » by **TJFordisGod** » Thu Apr 2, 2009 7:31 pm

An Indiana Senate committee voted 10-2 Thursday to adopt a bill that will double alcohol taxes while also increasing hotel, food and beverage taxes in Marion County to bail out the Capital Improvement Board, which runs Indianapolis's professional stadiums.

M4E: Good find. Just remember to not copy and paste the article. Link to articles in the future.

Here's the link to the full article

Post #2 » by **Scoot McGroot** » Thu Apr 2, 2009 11:13 pm

See? Posturing to get a more favorable deal from Indy. They got it.

cdash · Post #3 » by **cdash** » Thu Apr 2, 2009 11:48 pm

Scoot McGroot wrote:See? Posturing to get a more favorable deal from Indy. They got it.

Scooty McScooterson called it. Well done sir.

Post #4 » by **APerna** » Fri Apr 3, 2009 12:42 am

Scoot is right 60% of the time, every time.

Post #5 » by **Miller4ever** » Fri Apr 3, 2009 12:45 am

"The game is half mental, 90% of the time"

-Actual John Madden quote; Madden 06-??

TJFordisGod · Post #6 » by **TJFordisGod** » Fri Apr 3, 2009 1:17 am

Whoops, I didn't know we weren't aloud. I've been copying and pasting wiretap articles for a while now.

Post #7 » by **count55** » Fri Apr 3, 2009 1:40 am

PacerPerspective wrote:Scoot is right 60% of the time, every time.

Oddly enough, he also stings the nostrils and is illegal in nine states.

Post #8 » by **Scoot McGroot** » Fri Apr 3, 2009 2:13 am

TJFordisGod wrote:Whoops, I didn't know we weren't aloud. I've been copying and pasting wiretap articles for a while now.

Ignorance is not always bliss.

Post #9 » by **APerna** » Fri Apr 3, 2009 2:34 am

count55 wrote:Oddly enough, he also stings the nostrils and is illegal in nine states.

Even stranger, Scoot smells like Big Foot's....oh...

Post #10 » by **count55** » Fri Apr 3, 2009 2:56 am

PacerPerspective wrote:
count55 wrote:Oddly enough, he also stings the nostrils and is illegal in nine states.

Even stranger, Scoot smells like Big Foot's....oh...

Just how do you know what that smells like?

cdash · Post #11 » by **cdash** » Fri Apr 3, 2009 3:27 am

count55 wrote:
PacerPerspective wrote:
count55 wrote:Oddly enough, he also stings the nostrils and is illegal in nine states.

Even stranger, Scoot smells like Big Foot's....oh...

Just how do you know what that smells like?

Don't ask questions you don't want the answer to...

chatard5 · Post #12 » by **chatard5** » Fri Apr 3, 2009 8:48 am

I heard they might build a casino downtown, is that not going to happen anymore? I think it would've been a crappy casino anyway. They are the "Indiana" Pacers. Scoot or Count may know this answer, but are we allowed to tax the whole state since they are the Indiana Pacers instead of the Indianapolis Pacers? I thought the whole point was for taxing stuff. I am probably completely wrong and one of you will give me an awesome history or what it is and why, and I appreciate it.

Is it the NY Knicks or the NY, NY Knicks?

Post #13 » by **Scoot McGroot** » Fri Apr 3, 2009 4:08 pm

chatard5 wrote:I heard they might build a casino downtown, is that not going to happen anymore? I think it would've been a crappy casino anyway. They are the "Indiana" Pacers. Scoot or Count may know this answer, but are we allowed to tax the whole state since they are the Indiana Pacers instead of the Indianapolis Pacers? I thought the whole point was for taxing stuff. I am probably completely wrong and one of you will give me an awesome history or what it is and why, and I appreciate it.

Is it the NY Knicks or the NY, NY Knicks?

You're probably thinking of the "Race"ino's that have opened at Hoosier Park in Anderson and the Indiana Downs in Shelbyville. Basically, they have slot machines at the horse racing tracks.

As for taxing the whole state, that would be up for the governor and the state assembly to decide, not the city of Indianapolis. It doesn't matter whether they're named the Indiana or Indianapolis Pacers, basically the city of Indianapolis can't tax the whole state. They don't have the power. Now, if the state assembly wants to do that, then they could. But, in order for that to happen, they better damn well offer some major benefits to the rest of the state, or else all those lawmakers would be voted out of office in a hurry.

That would be like the US Government taxing just the entire country because just Texas is having financial issues. How well do you think that would go over?

If you're going to tax anyone, it's going to be just the surrounding counties, much like the tax that was offered when Lucas Oil Stadium was being funded. Marion County added a stadium tax to food and dining, as well as hotel rates (I believe), and offered to the surrounding counties (like Hamilton, Boone, etc.) to also tax those restaurant and hotel guests, but if the surrounding counties agreed to the tax, they then got to keep 1/3 of all tax monies gathered as part of that stadium tax. Basically, the counties kept 1/3 of the tax, and the stadium got the other 2/3 of the taxes.

You gotta give something back in order to take tax money from everyone else.

Thus, it's highly unlikely you'd be able to tax a majority of the state of Indiana just to fund the Capital Improvement Board (the CIB).

Post #14 » by **Miller4ever** » Fri Apr 3, 2009 7:31 pm

Funny. I was under the impression that CIB stood for Capital Idiot Buffoons, by the way some people were talking about them.

chatard5 · Post #15 » by **chatard5** » Sat Apr 4, 2009 1:02 am

Thanks Scoot. Yeah it wouldn't be fair to tax the whole state, I just thought there was a reason they were named Indiana instead of Indianapolis.

I have heard about the casinos nearby Indianapolis, but there was talk of a casino in downtown Indianapolis. Talks may not have gotten far at all, but I know there was some sort of talk about a downtown Indianapolis casino. I remember this a couple years ago and heard they decided against it, but my brother said he heard something on the radio recently, but it could've been the hosts just BSing around some ideas.