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Post#1 » by PeTBuLL » Fri Apr 3, 2009 5:07 am

Unfortunately, Denver will be AGAIN a 1st round exit team, Carmelo is hopeless, yeah i know, the team is winning and Melo are making 40 points/game, but the dude is just a black role when Denver play´s National TV, and Important games.

Carmelo simply cant play a overall game, he always will try to win by himself (and he is not gifted for that), he will not involve his teammates, and you know, this team will LOSE.

I told earlier that the Iverson experiment whould be a fail, and Carmelo will be too, when this CANCER go out, denver will be a contender for a title.
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Post#2 » by maxwellcu » Fri Apr 3, 2009 5:38 am

This is one of the worst posts ever. Denver will reach title contention by... getting rid of the best player on the team? Ok...
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Post#3 » by PeTBuLL » Fri Apr 3, 2009 5:42 am

I just want to say first, expect my thread to make sense when the playoffs come...

But i accept new posts, just to make fresh!

Im not riding with any wave, i just want to say, I TOLD YOU GUYS!
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Post#4 » by JRMelo15 » Fri Apr 3, 2009 6:01 am

Yeah getting rid of our best player and feeding the ball to Nene every time on offense will give you an explosion in your pants, but it will definitely take us nowhere in the playoffs.
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Post#5 » by eathy » Fri Apr 3, 2009 6:10 am

Well if Nene wants more of the ball, he should rebound better and not lose the ball when he gets double teamed.
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Post#6 » by Shady08 » Fri Apr 3, 2009 6:12 am

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Post#7 » by J Smitty » Fri Apr 3, 2009 6:46 am

I'm a little curious.....do you even watch the Nuggets on a regular basis? Not asking to discount your basketball knowledge at all. I just assume you're from outside the country, so that is why I ask.
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Post#8 » by el loco » Fri Apr 3, 2009 6:58 am

J Smitty wrote:I'm a little curious.....do you even watch the Nuggets on a regular basis? Not asking to discount your basketball knowledge at all. I just assume you're from outside the country, so that is why I ask.



He is from Brazil and has been supporting Nene and Barbosa for quite a few seasons.
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Post#9 » by Nutty Nats Fan » Fri Apr 3, 2009 7:25 am

PeTBuLL wrote:Unfortunately, Denver will be AGAIN a 1st round exit team, Carmelo is hopeless, yeah i know, the team is winning and Melo are making 40 points/game, but the dude is just a black role when Denver play´s National TV, and Important games.

Did you even watch the game tonight? He had 4 assists and a few more that could have been. That's not being a black hole.
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Post#10 » by pickaxe » Fri Apr 3, 2009 7:40 am

Yeah Carmelo didn't fit the ideal role anybody and everybody wanted him to fill, but he fought. You can't say that about a lot of players.

I can see how he came from a game where he couldn't miss a shot and wasn't ready to adjust to it immediately in this game when his shot didn't fall as much. Adjusting would mean letting passing and rebounding consume much more of his time. That is part of the maturing process, and I would agree if he can't figure that out and quickly we could very well see the exit. At the same time, how many players make that mistake and just give up entirely. Melo won't.

Nene....same boat tonight he had terrible moments. He had one very good turn around layup toward the end and that is the small grain of success that his teammates need to see. As fans we all want to see Nene make every single one of those, but for whatever reason we won't.

We can't forget that Nene shot 60% or higher for a good part of the early season. Dude helped us get here. It's all about teamwork.
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Post#11 » by el loco » Fri Apr 3, 2009 2:18 pm

meloivynene wrote:Yeah Carmelo didn't fit the ideal role anybody and everybody wanted him to fill, but he fought. You can't say that about a lot of players.

I can see how he came from a game where he couldn't miss a shot and wasn't ready to adjust to it immediately in this game when his shot didn't fall as much. Adjusting would mean letting passing and rebounding consume much more of his time. That is part of the maturing process, and I would agree if he can't figure that out and quickly we could very well see the exit. At the same time, how many players make that mistake and just give up entirely. Melo won't.

Nene....same boat tonight he had terrible moments. He had one very good turn around layup toward the end and that is the small grain of success that his teammates need to see. As fans we all want to see Nene make every single one of those, but for whatever reason we won't.

We can't forget that Nene shot 60% or higher for a good part of the early season. Dude helped us get here. It's all about teamwork.


As a team we fail to recognize, go to, and exploit mismatches quite a bit. The couple of times that Nene got the ball a little further out from the block with Boozer on him, Nene went right by him, he did the same thing with Okur and got an offensive foul called on him for swiping Okur's arm away, which he didn't need to do because it had no effect on the outcome of the play. I used to get mad that Nene didn't get a lot of offense run through him, but part of it not happening is on Nene himself. A center should get rewarded for working hard, and Nene doesn't work hard on the boads. If he would work the boards he could get another 3 to 4 shots a night and help his team more in the process.
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Post#12 » by PeTBuLL » Fri Apr 3, 2009 5:34 pm

J Smitty wrote:I'm a little curious.....do you even watch the Nuggets on a regular basis? Not asking to discount your basketball knowledge at all. I just assume you're from outside the country, so that is why I ask.


Yes, i have NBA League Pass and i watch Denver in every game... I´m pretty sure about what i am saying, but my statement will make sense just when we start to play in the playoff´s...

If, big IF, i being wrong, i will came here and will apologize...
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Post#13 » by Nuggets18 » Fri Apr 3, 2009 5:48 pm

PeTBuLL wrote:Unfortunately, Denver will be AGAIN a 1st round exit team, Carmelo is hopeless, yeah i know, the team is winning and Melo are making 40 points/game, but the dude is just a black role when Denver play´s National TV, and Important games.

Carmelo simply cant play a overall game, he always will try to win by himself (and he is not gifted for that), he will not involve his teammates, and you know, this team will LOSE.

I told earlier that the Iverson experiment whould be a fail, and Carmelo will be too, when this CANCER go out, denver will be a contender for a title.


Show me some stats that prove your case, and i might read it twice.. Ofc are Melo playing better against worse defensive teams, everyone does so, but i wouldn't say he play bad against quality teams.. not at all
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Post#14 » by el loco » Fri Apr 3, 2009 6:17 pm

PeTBuLL wrote:
J Smitty wrote:I'm a little curious.....do you even watch the Nuggets on a regular basis? Not asking to discount your basketball knowledge at all. I just assume you're from outside the country, so that is why I ask.


Yes, i have NBA League Pass and i watch Denver in every game... I´m pretty sure about what i am saying, but my statement will make sense just when we start to play in the playoff´s...

If, big IF, i being wrong, i will came here and will apologize...


Hopefully your'e wrong and I can look forward to your apology. Petbull has been through the playoffs with Denver before, and I am sure he basing this line of thinking off of what Melo did last year in the playoffs.
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Post#15 » by pickaxe » Fri Apr 3, 2009 7:47 pm

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meloivynene wrote:Yeah Carmelo didn't fit the ideal role anybody and everybody wanted him to fill, but he fought. You can't say that about a lot of players.

I can see how he came from a game where he couldn't miss a shot and wasn't ready to adjust to it immediately in this game when his shot didn't fall as much. Adjusting would mean letting passing and rebounding consume much more of his time. That is part of the maturing process, and I would agree if he can't figure that out and quickly we could very well see the exit. At the same time, how many players make that mistake and just give up entirely. Melo won't.

Nene....same boat tonight he had terrible moments. He had one very good turn around layup toward the end and that is the small grain of success that his teammates need to see. As fans we all want to see Nene make every single one of those, but for whatever reason we won't.

We can't forget that Nene shot 60% or higher for a good part of the early season. Dude helped us get here. It's all about teamwork.


As a team we fail to recognize, go to, and exploit mismatches quite a bit. The couple of times that Nene got the ball a little further out from the block with Boozer on him, Nene went right by him, he did the same thing with Okur and got an offensive foul called on him for swiping Okur's arm away, which he didn't need to do because it had no effect on the outcome of the play. I used to get mad that Nene didn't get a lot of offense run through him, but part of it not happening is on Nene himself. A center should get rewarded for working hard, and Nene doesn't work hard on the boads. If he would work the boards he could get another 3 to 4 shots a night and help his team more in the process.




Well, there are two Nenes. One I remember him playing for Brazil in the Worlds and he looked awful. He never seemed to move and waas not capable of scoring the ball (I think) because he was flat footed. Then there's the Nene we saw at the start of this year, just beasting inside and hitting a very decent amount of mid range js.

I want to see the early season Nene from this season, with an unshakable confidence down low. A lot of that just at this point is poise. He needs to take a deep breath, realize where he's at, and WHO he is (huge with speed), and let his game come to him. If he's hungry for the ball, box out, grab rebounds. I almost question how hungry he is compared to early on.
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Post#16 » by el loco » Fri Apr 3, 2009 8:10 pm

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meloivynene wrote:Yeah Carmelo didn't fit the ideal role anybody and everybody wanted him to fill, but he fought. You can't say that about a lot of players.

I can see how he came from a game where he couldn't miss a shot and wasn't ready to adjust to it immediately in this game when his shot didn't fall as much. Adjusting would mean letting passing and rebounding consume much more of his time. That is part of the maturing process, and I would agree if he can't figure that out and quickly we could very well see the exit. At the same time, how many players make that mistake and just give up entirely. Melo won't.

Nene....same boat tonight he had terrible moments. He had one very good turn around layup toward the end and that is the small grain of success that his teammates need to see. As fans we all want to see Nene make every single one of those, but for whatever reason we won't.

We can't forget that Nene shot 60% or higher for a good part of the early season. Dude helped us get here. It's all about teamwork.


As a team we fail to recognize, go to, and exploit mismatches quite a bit. The couple of times that Nene got the ball a little further out from the block with Boozer on him, Nene went right by him, he did the same thing with Okur and got an offensive foul called on him for swiping Okur's arm away, which he didn't need to do because it had no effect on the outcome of the play. I used to get mad that Nene didn't get a lot of offense run through him, but part of it not happening is on Nene himself. A center should get rewarded for working hard, and Nene doesn't work hard on the boads. If he would work the boards he could get another 3 to 4 shots a night and help his team more in the process.




Well, there are two Nenes. One I remember him playing for Brazil in the Worlds and he looked awful. He never seemed to move and waas not capable of scoring the ball (I think) because he was flat footed. Then there's the Nene we saw at the start of this year, just beasting inside and hitting a very decent amount of mid range js.

I want to see the early season Nene from this season, with an unshakable confidence down low. A lot of that just at this point is poise. He needs to take a deep breath, realize where he's at, and WHO he is (huge with speed), and let his game come to him. If he's hungry for the ball, box out, grab rebounds. I almost question how hungry he is compared to early on.



He has logged a lot of minutes this season, and last year wasn't a great year for him health wise. GK's short rotation seems to wear big men down by seasons end. But that doesn't really hold true because he recently had a few days off :lol:
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Post#17 » by pickaxe » Sat Apr 4, 2009 12:46 am

He's done a great job. I think now the consensus should be that all that hard work should not be for naught. It might be rough for him now.....but there's also the alternate scenario where he never comes back from injury. If I were him, it's time to run with it.

One things players should always do to get more out of a game is just make more quality minutes....true GK rotations wear big guys down. Well, if he's tired, there's always the first round exit waiting.....
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Post#18 » by dis4ryan » Sat Apr 4, 2009 12:48 am

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Post#19 » by PeTBuLL » Fri Apr 10, 2009 5:15 am

Someone on my bandwagon already?
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Post#20 » by Shady08 » Fri Apr 10, 2009 5:38 am

PeTBuLL wrote:Someone on my bandwagon already?


It's one **** game against the second best team in the NBA. Are you seriously (Please Use More Appropriate Word)?

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