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The Three Reasons Why Suddenly Glen Davis Performs

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Re: The Three Reasons Why Suddenly Glen Davis Performs 

Post#21 » by Kids Are Alright » Mon Apr 6, 2009 12:19 pm

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Given a choice I'd like to keep Powe over Davis. Powe can't shoot, but I'd trust him to stay consistent after getting paid. That said, unless we magically find a Center [praying for Rasho] Glen Davis may be much more valuable for the Celtics then Powe this offseason.


Powe has the liability of multiple knee surgeries on one knee in his past and an injury to his other knee this season, the reason he was a 2nd rounder. I respect his game but he can't be relied on with those knees unless there's a good backup for him.

Baby's weak final college season and his weight and height kept him from first round, so the outside shot and the weight loss seems to help.

They both are pretty hopeless against young, athletic bigs as they're just too short.
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Re: The Three Reasons Why Suddenly Glen Davis Performs 

Post#22 » by MyInsatiableOne » Mon Apr 6, 2009 12:49 pm

^If you think Powe has knee problems, wait till you see what's in store for Davis if he continues to stay overweight...
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Re: The Three Reasons Why Suddenly Glen Davis Performs 

Post#23 » by humblebum » Mon Apr 6, 2009 3:29 pm

I just think it's funny how every theory that Insatiable and GuyClinch have stated about Glen has turned out to be false yet they still are hanging tough. Not only has he developed the jumper now but the owner has now clarified any questions about weight and work ethic. He worked hard on his game, he's developing, the team believes in him. But maybe if you guys keep talking and typing and hoping, just maybe he'll fail and you'll get to tell everybody how right you were. We ALL can only hope. ;)
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Re: The Three Reasons Why Suddenly Glen Davis Performs 

Post#24 » by GuyClinch » Mon Apr 6, 2009 3:48 pm

I just think it's funny how every theory that Insatiable and GuyClinch have stated about Glen has turned out to be false yet they still are hanging tough. Not only has he developed the jumper now but the owner has now clarified any questions about weight and work ethic. He worked hard on his game, he's developing, the team believes in him. But maybe if you guys keep talking and typing and hoping, just maybe he'll fail and you'll get to tell everybody how right you were. We ALL can only hope.


I think its funny that C's fans love em some short overweight poor rebounding, poor defending "center". Which of those theories do you care to "dispute"? LMAO.

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Re: The Three Reasons Why Suddenly Glen Davis Performs 

Post#25 » by cisco » Mon Apr 6, 2009 4:38 pm

humblebum wrote:I just think it's funny how every theory that Insatiable and GuyClinch have stated about Glen has turned out to be false yet they still are hanging tough. Not only has he developed the jumper now but the owner has now clarified any questions about weight and work ethic. He worked hard on his game, he's developing, the team believes in him. But maybe if you guys keep talking and typing and hoping, just maybe he'll fail and you'll get to tell everybody how right you were. We ALL can only hope. ;)


Yep. And they will keep trying. LMAO! :lol:
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Re: The Three Reasons Why Suddenly Glen Davis Performs 

Post#26 » by MyInsatiableOne » Mon Apr 6, 2009 4:53 pm

Glen Davis is fine for what he is...a short, overweight poor jumpshooting, poor rebounding, decent defending undersized forward who was a 2nd draft pick. As the 8th man off the bench, I would have NO problem with him on this C's team. As the 6th or 7th guy, a big one. But my biggest beef is the wild overrating of him by loads of y'all on this board...the next Barkley? Textbook post moves? A great shooter? Potential perennial All-Star? I want some of whatever y'all are smoking because it must be some fantastic ****!
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Re: The Three Reasons Why Suddenly Glen Davis Performs 

Post#27 » by celticfan42487 » Mon Apr 6, 2009 6:57 pm

Kids Are Alright wrote:
celticfan42487 wrote:
Given a choice I'd like to keep Powe over Davis. Powe can't shoot, but I'd trust him to stay consistent after getting paid. That said, unless we magically find a Center [praying for Rasho] Glen Davis may be much more valuable for the Celtics then Powe this offseason.


Powe has the liability of multiple knee surgeries on one knee in his past and an injury to his other knee this season, the reason he was a 2nd rounder. I respect his game but he can't be relied on with those knees unless there's a good backup for him.

Baby's weak final college season and his weight and height kept him from first round, so the outside shot and the weight loss seems to help.

They both are pretty hopeless against young, athletic bigs as they're just too short.


Good point. I forgot that since Powe still has better vertical then Baby. That makes them about equal overall then in potential consistency. Powe has a little solo ability, Baby has the range ability...

Hmph, yeah then I guess there equal in my mind? Yeah equal.
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Re: The Three Reasons Why Suddenly Glen Davis Performs 

Post#28 » by MyInsatiableOne » Mon Apr 6, 2009 7:34 pm

Equal? Hardly...both of them are bench guys at best...neither will ever start for a contending team. I just feel Powe has more upside and the potential for a longer career than Davis...
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Re: The Three Reasons Why Suddenly Glen Davis Performs 

Post#29 » by UGA Hayes » Mon Apr 6, 2009 8:46 pm

He's a fine backup, but if he asks for any kind of overpriced contract we should let him go.
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Re: The Three Reasons Why Suddenly Glen Davis Performs 

Post#30 » by humblebum » Mon Apr 6, 2009 9:54 pm

The stats over the last 40-50 games have already been posted by Sully in the last thread. But if you throw out the first 30 or so games of the season he's been much more effective and efficient. There's no denying that. And there's no denying the fact that he's lost weight since he got here. The team likes his work ethic. So the overall point is that the guy has been working at his game, improving, and the team likes what he brings and wants to bring him back on a value deal. So the theory that he's just a fat slob who doesn't work at his game or conditioning doesn't hold water, it's been proven wrong by the comments of Wyc Grousbeck on the subject.
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Re: The Three Reasons Why Suddenly Glen Davis Performs 

Post#31 » by GuyClinch » Mon Apr 6, 2009 11:33 pm

The stats over the last 40-50 games have already been posted by Sully in the last thread. But if you throw out the first 30 or so games of the season he's been much more effective and efficient. There's no denying that. And there's no denying the fact that he's lost weight since he got here


Anyone looks like a super star when you throw out games. See Mark, Blount for example. This was the 'argument" to resign Blount. Another 'center' that was a crappy rebounder and relied upon his jump shot.

And there's no denying the fact that he's lost weight since he got here.


Not only do I deny it - but I wil provide visual evidence to the contrary.

http://www.ganonbakerbasketball.com/new ... 0Ganon.jpg

That's a PREDRAFT shot baby. That's when he got in shape - ya know for the MONEY.

Do you want to see "championship" Baby?

http://yorkroberts.files.wordpress.com/ ... aby-11.jpg

Like most people with a weight problem (Oprah) his weight tends to yo/yo.
Is he skinnier now? Sure. But he will likely go back to what he was before (but probably not pre-draft status). I bet you can't hardly recognize him in that shot.

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Re: The Three Reasons Why Suddenly Glen Davis Performs 

Post#32 » by MyInsatiableOne » Tue Apr 7, 2009 11:37 am

UGA Hayes wrote:He's a fine backup, but if he asks for any kind of overpriced contract we should let him go.


Exactly. Same with Powe. I like Powe more than Davis but he's still a backup...
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