GM a Team Poll, 09 Draft or 08-09 trading

Post #21 » by **TMACFORMVP** » Mon Apr 6, 2009 10:47 pm

would think it would be...

trade 08/09 salaries
DRAFT
Free Agency
trade 09/10 salaries
etc...

I'd lean towards something like this as well.

deNIEd · Post #22 » by **deNIEd** » Mon Apr 6, 2009 10:59 pm

r0cd0gg wrote:^Agreed

I would think it would be...

trade 08/09 salaries
DRAFT
Free Agency
trade 09/10 salaries
etc...

Except for the fact that the real life teams already decided what will happen to 08/09 salaries. If you want to trade 08/09 salaries, then we should void everything that happened during the trade deadline.

Our league is to simulate what a real nba GM would face, so, why aren't we simply given that position. If the league hired 30 new GM's (us) and starting today, how could we change the given team's future.

Draft using real life standings/trading contracts allowed in the NBA -> Offseason/trading ->regular season/trading -> sim ->2010 draft ->2010 offseason.

By the time we get to the sim, 2k10 will already be out

Post #23 » by **roc** » Mon Apr 6, 2009 11:03 pm

Keeping this years records for the draft should be fine/fair/easy.

We would mos def need to sim the 09/10 season for draft rankings based on our new rosters though.

I'm fine with whichever option wins this poll for getting the game underway.

nba_addict · Post #24 » by **nba_addict** » Tue Apr 7, 2009 12:21 am

I am indifferent between the 3 options. My only wish out there is that we use the actual standings of NBA teams in determining the draft order.

skorff26 · Post #25 » by **skorff26** » Tue Apr 7, 2009 12:24 am

The 2009 draft order will be decided by the real life standings.

Also there will be a trading period prior to the draft, since the draft isn't going to start until we find out who is declaring for the draft this year (final day is April 27 so the draft will occur sometime after then).

-Now all that needs to be decided is, will the short trading period before the draft use 08-09 salaries or 09-10 salaries;
I was favoring 08-09 since then a GM has a chance to start putting his team in the direction that the new GM wants to go; but I can see why people want to use 09-10 salaries.

So if you have a real strong preference to using 08-09 salaries or 09-10 salaries, state your reasons in this thread and I'll make a decision tomorrow night.

SamBone · Post #26 » by **SamBone** » Tue Apr 7, 2009 12:57 am

skorff did you pick a team?

Mascot · Post #27 » by **Mascot** » Tue Apr 7, 2009 1:13 am

08/09 salaries because dealing expirings is a huge part of this game, no one wants to lose that chance im sure of it.

skorff26 · Post #28 » by **skorff26** » Tue Apr 7, 2009 1:19 am

SamBone wrote:skorff did you pick a team?

I'm only going to take one if we can't fill up all the teams; I don't really want to have to deal with my team and free agency.

SamBone · Post #29 » by **SamBone** » Tue Apr 7, 2009 1:22 am

Mascot wrote:08/09 salaries because dealing expirings is a huge part of this game, no one wants to lose that chance im sure of it.

yes but didn't the actual NBA team do that already. The real team prepaired for the off season and now we are taking over

Mascot · Post #30 » by **Mascot** » Tue Apr 7, 2009 1:27 am

well then ill have to change teams,

cause my idea was trading lee with curry to get rid of his contract, but now im going to have to resign lee for 10 mill a season, and keep curry.

kinda messes it up for people who have to sign key free agents at the beginning of the game.

Post #31 » by **Klomp** » Tue Apr 7, 2009 1:42 am

Whatever we do, I don't care. JUST MAKE A DECISION!

SamBone · Post #32 » by **SamBone** » Tue Apr 7, 2009 1:42 am

but you are taking over the Knicks now, I thought that was the point of this game. The trade deadline was in Febuary. Isn't that why Toronto has Marion? Using your thinking, should we use rosters from before the trade dealine? (wasn't that last game). Packing something to move Curry is what the current GM of the Knicks has to do

deNIEd · Post #33 » by **deNIEd** » Tue Apr 7, 2009 1:44 am

r0cd0gg wrote:Keeping this years records for the draft should be fine/fair/easy.

We would mos def need to sim the 09/10 season for draft rankings based on our new rosters though.

Agreed

skorff26 wrote:Also there will be a trading period prior to the draft, since the draft isn't going to start until we find out who is declaring for the draft this year (final day is April 27 so the draft will occur sometime after then).

I don't think we should wait that long. I think we should find a date before then and use that as our deadline. That way we can leave some players for 2010 draft as well.

Also, I think judging criteria should be determined before anything begins. There should be more categories for each team, and to an extent an original team's situation vs final situation should be taken into account. For example it'll be a lot easier to rebuild Lakers than it would be to rebuild Memphis. There shouldn't be 1 overall winner, but instead of 2-3 winners for multiple categories.

Deadlines should also be put in place ahead of time, and make it much shorter than the last game (a vast majority of people stopped being activity or as active as they once were, simply because it dragged on for so long)

My suggestions.

Mascot · Post #34 » by **Mascot** » Tue Apr 7, 2009 2:13 am

SamBone wrote:but you are taking over the Knicks now, I thought that was the point of this game. The trade deadline was in Febuary. Isn't that why Toronto has Marion? Using your thinking, should we use rosters from before the trade dealine? (wasn't that last game). Packing something to move Curry is what the current GM of the Knicks has to do

we have never had a damn trade deadline in this game, so trade deadline means nothing!

Garmfay · Post #35 » by **Garmfay** » Tue Apr 7, 2009 2:41 am

SamBone wrote:
Mascot wrote:08/09 salaries because dealing expirings is a huge part of this game, no one wants to lose that chance im sure of it.

yes but didn't the actual NBA team do that already. The real team prepaired for the off season and now we are taking over

Agreed

bcortell · Post #36 » by **bcortell** » Tue Apr 7, 2009 3:12 am

Mascot wrote:
SamBone wrote:but you are taking over the Knicks now, I thought that was the point of this game. The trade deadline was in Febuary. Isn't that why Toronto has Marion? Using your thinking, should we use rosters from before the trade dealine? (wasn't that last game). Packing something to move Curry is what the current GM of the Knicks has to do

we have never had a damn trade deadline in this game, so trade deadline means nothing!

That's not true. You trade 2010 expirings so teams trying to get into the frenzy can try to sign Free Agents. In every game, we have had a trade deadline.

deNIEd · Post #37 » by **deNIEd** » Tue Apr 7, 2009 3:34 am

Theres always been a trade deadline.

Like Bcortell said, I dunno 2010 contracts are now the expirings. Otherwise, we should simply start w/ rosters before the NBA trade deadline or even the season.

Mascot · Post #38 » by **Mascot** » Tue Apr 7, 2009 3:36 am

deNIEd wrote:Theres always been a trade deadline.

Like Bcortell said, I dunno 2010 contracts are now the expirings. Otherwise, we should simply start w/ rosters before the NBA trade deadline or even the season.

we have never used the real nba trade deadline like u guys are suggesting.

Post #39 » by **TMACFORMVP** » Tue Apr 7, 2009 3:49 am

I'd personally prefer 08/09 contracts because it feels as there's more control heading into the 09 FA with the general idea that you pictured at the start, like had I been the Pacers GM before, I'd have probably tried to get something for my expirings rather than letting them expire, one reason I ended up choosing the Pacers.

But I understand the other side as well, as we'd take over the team in the off-season, which it's essentially right now. Not to mention it'd likely require a simulation of draft picks if one bottom dweller team were to become much better, and ALSO get Blake Griffin due to their real life record. Though depending on how long we'd have an 08/09 deadline, I doubt a team would improve that much - 3/5 day deadline perhaps? I wouldn't mind either way, let's just start the game ASAP, but my preference would lean to 08/09 trading week to shape the roster heading into the 09 Free Agency, but again, I'm fine either way.

xxSnEaKyPxx · Post #40 » by **xxSnEaKyPxx** » Tue Apr 7, 2009 3:54 am

TMACFORMVP wrote:I'd personally prefer 08/09 contracts because it feels as there's more control heading into the 09 FA with the general idea that you pictured at the start, like had I been the Pacers GM before, I'd have probably tried to get something for my expirings rather than letting them expire, one reason I ended up choosing the Pacers.

But I understand the other side as well, as we'd take over the team in the off-season, which it's essentially right now. Not to mention it'd likely require a simulation of draft picks if one bottom dweller team were to become much better, and ALSO get Blake Griffin due to their real life record. Though depending on how long we'd have an 08/09 deadline, I doubt a team would improve that much - 3/5 day deadline perhaps? I wouldn't mind either way, let's just start the game ASAP, but my preference would lean to 08/09 trading week to shape the roster heading into the 09 Free Agency, but again, I'm fine either way.

Agreed, teams who had expirings are useless, and its dumb to start during the FA period.