New GM a Team Sim Possibility

JordanL · Post #1 » by **JordanL** » Thu Apr 9, 2009 7:11 am

Hey all, I'm new a newcomer this time.

I noticed that the options for simming the season basically equated to waiting until 2k10 came out, then adjusting rosters. If we were planning on waiting a few months to sim the season, I would like to offer an alternative.

I'm a programmer. It's what I do for a living. I'd be willing to make an online simulator for us to use to sim the season using whatever specifications we all agreed on. It could be as simple or as complex as we want, bounded only by the amount of time it would take to develop.

We could just put in the players and teams and have it calculate averages, or we could include things like training camps, development, chemistry, coaching decisions (i.e. fast break, defense, sets, etc.) It could simply estimate average wins, or it could go through a season schedule and calculate the actual shot attempts and makes in each game. It could allow for player growth or it could be static.

Basically, I'm the programmer, and what we all decide we want, we can build. I'd open source the code, so that we can all be sure I'm not building in a "Spurs win" script or anything.

It's an option. We don't have to take it, but I thought I'd put it out there.

EDIT:

If you're interested, please build me a wishlist of features you'd like to see, and features you'd like to NOT see.

skorff26 · Post #2 » by **skorff26** » Thu Apr 9, 2009 11:56 am

I like the idea; anyone else have any feelings towards this?

Post #3 » by **Gremz** » Thu Apr 9, 2009 11:58 am

Well it would save ME a hell of a lot of time :lol:

You know me, I'm all for the majority vote, sounds very interesting though.

BlackIce · Post #4 » by **BlackIce** » Thu Apr 9, 2009 12:01 pm

Sounds good, I like it.

bcortell · Post #5 » by **bcortell** » Thu Apr 9, 2009 3:31 pm

God I hate programming.

With that said, sure have at it. Then spend days debugging it and let us know how it turns out.

bigpimpdave · Post #6 » by **bigpimpdave** » Thu Apr 9, 2009 6:09 pm

It sounds like a huge project, but if you're up for it, that would be fantastic!

SamBone · Post #7 » by **SamBone** » Thu Apr 9, 2009 11:08 pm

SOUNDS AWESOME (i HATE SMART PEOPLE!) BUT HOW DO WE KNOW HOW TO RANK THE ROOKIES?

Post #8 » by **MadNESS** » Fri Apr 10, 2009 1:13 am

like the idea

SamBone · Post #9 » by **SamBone** » Fri Apr 10, 2009 12:05 pm

If you can actualli input the rookies and readjust the teams, and give stats on how the teams are doing(amaizind if you can pull it off), here would be my suggestion to make the sim interesting.

1. Everyone posts their lineup with how many minutes each player would play
2. Sim the first 1/4 of the season and post stats and records
3. Teams readjust lineups and playing time off of stats provided
4. Sim the second 1/4 of the season and post halfway stats and standings, this would let people see were their teams stand
5. Allow a couple days for teams to make some trades and try and fix their teams
6. then sim the third 1/4 of the season and post stats and standings.
7. Allow a week of trade deadline moves for teams to dump expirings or good teams to improve
8. Then sim the rest of the season and then playoffs

LeQuitterNotMVP · Post #10 » by **LeQuitterNotMVP** » Fri Apr 10, 2009 7:31 pm

^^^No, no, no...

This is NOT a sim league... the sim would ONLY be there to determine the draft order.

BlackIce · Post #11 » by **BlackIce** » Fri Apr 10, 2009 7:49 pm

LBJ4MVP23 wrote:^^^No, no, no...

This is NOT a sim league... the sim would ONLY be there to determine the draft order.

Aren't we using the standings to determine draft order this year? Or are you talking about 2010?

SamBone · Post #12 » by **SamBone** » Fri Apr 10, 2009 7:57 pm

We are using actual standings for the 2009 draft, I am talking about the 2009/2010 season!

LeQuitterNotMVP · Post #13 » by **LeQuitterNotMVP** » Fri Apr 10, 2009 8:04 pm

Ya, I'm talking about for the 2010 draft.

SamBone · Post #14 » by **SamBone** » Fri Apr 10, 2009 8:09 pm

if we do not sim 2010, how do you do standings?

BlackIce · Post #15 » by **BlackIce** » Fri Apr 10, 2009 8:20 pm

SamBone wrote:if we do not sim 2010, how do you do standings?

Assume the clippers will again be a bottom 5 team? Thats a start

LeQuitterNotMVP · Post #16 » by **LeQuitterNotMVP** » Fri Apr 10, 2009 8:21 pm

No, I'm saying it's fine to do the sim, but it should not be a lengthy process. Its ONLY purpose is to determine the draft order. That's it. That is NOT how it it determined who wins the game.

BlackIce · Post #17 » by **BlackIce** » Fri Apr 10, 2009 8:38 pm

Yes I agree OP shouldn't have to put in all of this work.

SamBone · Post #18 » by **SamBone** » Fri Apr 10, 2009 8:39 pm

I never said it would determine the winner of the game. I know how this works. The guy was offering to design a program that would kick out stats and games foe everyone. I just said it would be cool if we make adjustments along the way (like in the NBA) and then teams see how the team they created actually does on the court. Then we can all adjust our teams (add pieces or tear it apart) before the 2010 draft and the much anticipated 2010 free agency.

SamBone · Post #19 » by **SamBone** » Thu May 21, 2009 8:27 pm

have we made a discission on how we will sim yet?

Post #20 » by **Miller4ever** » Sat May 23, 2009 8:36 am

I am interested in seeing how my team fares in '10 through sims, just to see how it's going so far, but most importantly we should get the draft order, which would require simming based on how good our teams are, which would require either 2k or a good sim program. The results of the 09-10 simmed season will have no bearing on final judgement.