Rockets Medical Staff Strikes again.

[tmacformvp07]

Yao listed day to day with a BONE BRUISE

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl...kn/6369491.html

Yao listed day-to-day with bone bruise in right foot
By JONATHAN FEIGEN Copyright 2009 Houston Chronicle
April 11, 2009, 6:47PM

Rockets center Yao Ming was listed as day-to-day with a bone bruise in his right foot following additional X-rays and a CAT scan Saturday.

Rockets athletic trainer Keith Jones said Yao would be evaluated further at Sunday’s practice.

Yao has experienced soreness in the foot during games Tuesday and Thursday, but was not limited in any way. When it had not improved by Friday, he was held out of Friday’s game following his pregame warmup.

jonathan.feigen@chron.com

Is there more of a reason for the rockets to fire the training staff. Yao out at the worst possible time.

I don't think he'll be playing the next 2 games and who knows how healthy he would be by the time playoffs start.

[Iggyemu]

Overreacting.

First of all he started feeling pain early last week. He played through it with no limitations but it didn't get better pain wise. This in fact has nothing to with the Rockets training staff and more to do with Yao playing through pain. Everybody at this time of year has some issue. Yao's isn't serious and in fact it will earn him a full week of rest. This isn't the worst possible time..this is the best possible time. We pretty much are where we want to be playoff wise which is the 3 or 4 seed with HC in the first round. And now we can rest Yao for a whole week. I call that good timing. I admit that I am worried about his foot but everybody has some injury that they will have to deal with in playoffs...its too late in the season for any player to be a 100%.

[stockmarketgod]

I mentioned this on another thread... but I wanted to say it again.... and tie it in with another thread...

RA knew Yao was feeling discomfort with his foot before the Sucramento game... yet with a 13 point lead with 5 minutes to go... he puts Yao back in....

a few people have mentioned what a average defender Yao is... so as I said in another thread... why are were we not using Deke more? we put chuck in every time... and the other team drives to the hoop
and starts there layup drill....

when you have a 19 point lead with 10 minutes to go... you dont need to score points like you were doing the first 3 quarters... you need to get stops... and Deke as old as he is is a way better defender than Yao...

like I said before... if deke can play for Yao when he is injured he could have played at least 5 minutes a game the last 3 weeks.... give Yao rest... get deke ready for the playoffs...

not saying 5 minutes a game.....would have kept Yao from getting a bone bruise.... but alot of times... when we get a big lead in the 4th.... the play goes away from Yao anyways... so he is running up and down the court for no reason.... put deke in and let him finger wag

[N1ckyPoo]

Stockmarketgod....I was going to say the same thing! ITS SO F#CKING FRUSTRATING TO WATCH YAO PLAY WHEN HE IS NOT NEEDED IN GAMES! We were up 13 in Sactown with 4 minutes left, while Yao was at the scorers table to get back in...it ballooned to 16! What the hell is Adleman thinking? Deke is more than servicable and yet he never ever releaves Yao. And Yao is 7'6 coming off a major foot injury....a repeat of which would be devastating to him, the team, his marketablilty, and trade value...and fan base.......those are all things that shouldn't be gambeled with. I was hoping his minutes would be around or just under 30 this year, especially seeing how deke proved his agelessness last year as the center for 12 games of the 22 game run. Instead he doesn't get signed until half way in the season...and has been worked in oh...4-5 games max. Adlemans job is to work with what he's got and know his players. Not put them in harms way...not not use Yao's relief. Coach of the year my ass. Just toying with Yao's health is unforgivable after last year...37/38 minutes per last year...lol...only center with more was Dwight Howard. Bigger centers like Big Z are averaging 27 minutes a game this year. Yao's still up around 34 last I checked. If you divided deke's minutes out over every game he was available to relieve Yao ...it would probably be around 10 seconds per game, if it wasn't for yesterday. Adleman and the training staff are **** idiots. Great system, but the pig headedness has to go.

Now...this of course (and I'm hoping) is just all jockeying for position....we probably want to have the excuse to rest our guys and choose where we fall in the playoffs. BUT if this **** is real...and Yao is hurt...wow...I don't even know what to type. Unforgivable.

[TMU]

Maybe Yao needs to do a better job monitoring his own health. Maybe Keith Jones needs to do a better job monitor Yao's health. How's RA supposed to know if Yao's foot is doing okay?

Keith Jones needs to get his ass fired not doing his job. An athletic trainer is supposed to communicate with the players in regard to any discomfort that they're experiencing. This is becoming a never-ending cycle and they need to get rid of his ass.

[N1ckyPoo]

Maybe Yao needs to do a better job monitoring his own health. Maybe Keith Jones needs to do a better job monitor Yao's health. How's RA supposed to know if Yao's foot is doing okay?

Keith Jones needs to get his ass fired not doing his job. An athletic trainer is supposed to communicate with the players in regard to any discomfort that they're experiencing. This is becoming a never-ending cycle and they need to get rid of his ass.

You can't really asked that of a someone who wants to win and is asked every day to compete and get better. It's the coaches and trainers job to be aware. Any warrior is going to play sick/hurt...coaches and trainers are there to monitor players. You can't ask a player for his all and then ask him to question himself at the same time. If you are not convinced RA is atleast (if not more than half) resposible explain to me why Yao went in with 4 minutes left in the sactown game and we were up 16? Keith Jones didn't make that call...it's not often (ever) trainers are out there making coaching decisions. Thats on Rick. Not relieving Yao for a few more minutes a game is on RA, he knows what he did to him last year...running him to death for more minutes than any other center except the young and athelitc freak of nature that is Dwight Howard, and even D12 only got one more minute than Yao a game. YAO IS 7'6 and is naturally stiff. But hey...I do agree with you too...it seems our training staff is more reactive than proactive regarding injuries...and the **** needs to change, I like RA...but he needs to be aware of the fact that he has a player that shouldn't be over 30 minutes per...especially after last years injury....especially when looking at his size/stature/stiffness...and especially when you have a servicable back-up...that judging by yesterdays game proved he can run the court just as good as yao...with better D. I just assumed Deke was out of shape...thats why he wasn't getting PT, but I realized yesterday that it was RA that was out of his fcking mind.

[dunleavyjr]

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[TMU]

You can't really asked that of a someone who wants to win and is asked every day to compete and get better. It's the coaches and trainers job to be aware. Any warrior is going to play sick/hurt...coaches and trainers are there to monitor players. You can't ask a player for his all and then ask him to question himself at the same time. If you are not convinced RA is atleast (if not more than half) resposible explain to me why Yao went in with 4 minutes left in the sactown game and we were up 16? Keith Jones didn't make that call...it's not often (ever) trainers are out there making coaching decisions. Thats on Rick. Not relieving Yao for a few more minutes a game is on RA, he knows what he did to him last year...running him to death for more minutes than any other center except the young and athelitc freak of nature that is Dwight Howard, and even D12 only got one more minute than Yao a game. YAO IS 7'6 and is naturally stiff. But hey...I do agree with you too...it seems our training staff is more reactive than proactive regarding injuries...and the **** needs to change, I like RA...but he needs to be aware of the fact that he has a player that shouldn't be over 30 minutes per...especially after last years injury....especially when looking at his size/stature/stiffness...and especially when you have a servicable back-up...that judging by yesterdays game proved he can run the court just as good as yao...with better D. I just assumed Deke was out of shape...thats why he wasn't getting PT, but I realized yesterday that it was RA that was out of his fcking mind.

It's the trainer's job to tell the coach that Player X is having Y issues. No coach dismisses a player's injury especially when the playoffs are around the corner. Yao played 33 minutes against the Kings, which is his season average. His mpg this season is the lowest he's had in the past 4 seasons. If anything, overall, Adelman understands Yao's medical history and has learned to cope with his minutes. I also don't think the bruise emerged from the Kings game. It was probably a stress reaction that resulted from a series of games. Had the athletic trainer done a better job monitoring Yao's status, Adelman would have cut down his minutes late in these stretches and this would have been a non-issue.

We should give Yao plenty of rest before the playoffs. This means Deke should get some playing time. Hopefully he can keep up his opponents, grab rebounds and block some shots. It will be interesting to see how the seeding turns out.

[N1ckyPoo]

Fair enough. And surely the injury didn't come at the end of that Sactown game (Yao was pulled with a minute left after all). My point was is that it's just that mentality that I hate. Why put him back in? Why risk it? Deke is right there and hasn't played a minute and is more than servicable. There's no reason Yao shouldn't be at or under 30 minutes per with Deke on the bench. Those three or four extra minutes off per game will take a ton of miles of Yao over a season, and a career. Right now that 33 minutes he averages is probably at the league average for regular big men...the fact that he has been playing more than that over the last few years of his career is a crime. Yao's 7'6 and coming off a major injury. Camparable big men...like Big Z for example (plus 7 footer with a history of foot problems) is at 27 minutes a game right now. Our bench is deep. Deke can fill in minutes...especially when we put our running crew in and stop running through Yao anyways. Deke is probably just as offensively capable as Chuck, and doesn't get drived passed like Chuck(Chucks better one on one on the block, Deke's help D and inside presence is way better...something we need when our fast crew is out and over playing on the defensive end). Deke's veteran status gives him the benefit on calls. Deke is electric for the fans and game energy at home. He can still block with the best of them. He's just as fast as Yao. No excuse for Yao to be at 33 miuntes this year. you can't tell me you looked at his minutes last year when he went down and didn't think "Damn, he should really be about 30...we're really over using the guy". Anyways...I respect your stance and agree with you completely...I'm just passing the blame to those who are in a position to protect Yao from himself and his drive to win. And I'm just frustrated that this is happening to us right now, when we could very well take the two spot, and have home court for two rounds. I still like our chances with Deke in both of the coming games though. With Landry back for offensive rebounding and Deke getting PT, plus Chuck on the block against Dirk...and Chandler likely a no go Monday...I'd pick us to win both. Unless we have an alterior motive to loose the Dallas game, for matchup reasons. anyways...here's to Yao's health and us getting out of the first round and making some noise.

[grond]

I too respect your stance, TMU.

Keith Jones is the DEVIL.

edit: oh yeah, and i would have liked to have seen more of deke too. looks like cookie monster can still play a bit! good to have him ready if we meet a team that plays two offensive 7ftrs at the same time in the playoffs somewhere down the line. if we get out of the first round that is.

[albatrosskismet]

Got to agree with you, N1ckyPoo . VG has blundered before, how come Adelman is making the same mistake. I mean, seriously 32 MPG can be too much for Yao at times. Hope he is back soon.

[YaoZaii]

i've said it b4 and will again.

keith jones is looking like a quack. so what if you got all those honors with the US team? we need to trade our trainers.

[kam_soluusar]

I am currently riding the pine pony, as I have severe Marrow Adeaema, in my left foot. So I can relate to this sort of injury. A while ago, I rolled the ankle, and continued playing on it. it gradually got worse, and I had to bench myself for the time being. I had X-rays, that showed nothing, and it wasn't until I got an MRI done, that the damage was obvious. I am lucky that I work in a Hospital, and am lucky to work with some of the best surgeons in Victoria, as they were able to help me along the right road to recovery. I played a game last week, was still not okay, and have subsequently shut myself back down again for two weeks. This sort of injury, left untreated has the potential to develop into a stress fracture.

Now I wasn't told to stop playing. I was told to reduce minutes, and the pounding I might take. as I play anywhere from 1-5 man, I had to take myself out until the injury gets better. It took four weeks just to walk without a limp.

Yes, we can all argue as to whether Yao's minutes should have been reduced. Then again, we might not be jockeying for #2 in the West if we did.

[kam_soluusar]

I am currently riding the pine pony, as I have severe Marrow Adeaema, in my left foot. So I can relate to this sort of injury. A while ago, I rolled the ankle, and continued playing on it. it gradually got worse, and I had to bench myself for the time being. I had X-rays, that showed nothing, and it wasn't until I got an MRI done, that the damage was obvious. I am lucky that I work in a Hospital, and am lucky to work with some of the best surgeons in Victoria, as they were able to help me along the right road to recovery. I played a game last week, was still not okay, and have subsequently shut myself back down again for two weeks. This sort of injury, left untreated has the potential to develop into a stress fracture.

Now I wasn't told to stop playing. I was told to reduce minutes, and the pounding I might take. as I play anywhere from 1-5 man, I had to take myself out until the injury gets better. It took four weeks just to walk without a limp.

Yes, we can all argue as to whether Yao's minutes should have been reduced. Then again, we might not be jockeying for #2 in the West if we did.