Would anyone do this trade?

Pappyman · Post #1 » by **Pappyman** » Thu Apr 16, 2009 7:12 am

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Utah Trade Breakdown
Change in Team Outlook: +10.2 ppg, +5.3 rpg, and -0.2 apg.

Incoming Players
Chris Bosh
6-10 PF from Georgia Tech
22.7 ppg, 10.0 rpg, 2.5 apg in 37.9 minutes
Joey Graham
6-7 SF from Oklahoma State
7.7 ppg, 3.7 rpg, 0.6 apg in 19.8 minutes
Shawn Marion
6-7 SF from UNLV
12.0 ppg, 8.7 rpg, 1.8 apg in 36.1 minutes
Outgoing Players
Matt Harpring
6-7 SF from Georgia Tech
4.4 ppg, 2.0 rpg, 0.4 apg in 11.0 minutes
Carlos Boozer
6-8 PF from Duke
16.2 ppg, 10.3 rpg, 2.1 apg in 32.3 minutes
Andrei Kirilenko
6-9 SF from Russia (Foreign)
11.6 ppg, 4.8 rpg, 2.6 apg in 27.3 minutes

Toronto Trade Breakdown
Change in Team Outlook: -10.2 ppg, -5.3 rpg, and +0.2 apg.

Incoming Players
Matt Harpring
6-7 SF from Georgia Tech
4.4 ppg, 2.0 rpg, 0.4 apg in 11.0 minutes
Carlos Boozer
6-8 PF from Duke
16.2 ppg, 10.3 rpg, 2.1 apg in 32.3 minutes
Andrei Kirilenko
6-9 SF from Russia (Foreign)
11.6 ppg, 4.8 rpg, 2.6 apg in 27.3 minutes
Outgoing Players
Chris Bosh
6-10 PF from Georgia Tech
22.7 ppg, 10.0 rpg, 2.5 apg in 37.9 minutes
Joey Graham
6-7 SF from Oklahoma State
7.7 ppg, 3.7 rpg, 0.6 apg in 19.8 minutes
Shawn Marion
6-7 SF from UNLV
12.0 ppg, 8.7 rpg, 1.8 apg in 36.1 minutes

Depth Chart for Next Season:
PG: Deron Williams, Brevin Knight, Ronnie Price
SG: C.J. Miles, Kyle Korver, Morris Almond
SF: Ronnie Brewer, Shawn Marion, Joey Graham
PF: Chris Bosh, Paul Millsap, Kosta Koufos
C: Mehmet Okur, Kyrylo Fesenko, Jarron Collins

Batu7 · Post #2 » by **Batu7** » Thu Apr 16, 2009 7:16 am

Why in the world would Toronto do this trade? If they're complaining about Bosh's defense, wait till they see Boozer. Also, I don't think anybody would want to take on Kirilenko's contract.

OC Jazzfan · Post #3 » by **OC Jazzfan** » Thu Apr 16, 2009 7:52 am

I'd jump on it like a fat guy on a tripple whopper. I wasn't aware that Toronto's front office was comprised of toothless hillbillies produced from generations of inbreeding. if we added a shiny coin, I'm sure they'd go for it.

CAE15 · Post #4 » by **CAE15** » Thu Apr 16, 2009 10:20 am

take away harp, add brewer and Millsap or the NY pick and then toronto would probably start listening.

Bosh really seems to be the only close to superstar player we could perhaps get.

dookieguy · Post #5 » by **dookieguy** » Thu Apr 16, 2009 12:38 pm

Hell Yeah, from the Jazz POV.

Pappyman · Post #6 » by **Pappyman** » Thu Apr 16, 2009 11:38 pm

Successful Trade Scenario
Congratulations on a successful trade.

Due to Utah and Toronto being over the cap, the 25% trade rule is invoked. Utah and Toronto had to be no more than 125% plus $100,000 of the salary given out for the trade to be accepted, which did happen here. This trade satisfies the provisions of the Collective Bargaining Agreement.
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Utah Trade Breakdown
Change in Team Outlook: +6.5 ppg, -0.3 rpg, and +0.4 apg.
Incoming Players
Chris Bosh
6-10 PF from Georgia Tech
22.7 ppg, 10.0 rpg, 2.5 apg in 37.9 minutes
Outgoing Players
Carlos Boozer
6-8 PF from Duke
16.2 ppg, 10.3 rpg, 2.1 apg in 32.3 minutes

Toronto Trade Breakdown
Change in Team Outlook: -6.5 ppg, +0.3 rpg, and -0.4 apg.
Incoming Players
Carlos Boozer
6-8 PF from Duke
16.2 ppg, 10.3 rpg, 2.1 apg in 32.3 minutes
Outgoing Players
Chris Bosh
6-10 PF from Georgia Tech
22.7 ppg, 10.0 rpg, 2.5 apg in 37.9 minutes

Reasons:

Bosh is younger, taller, and more athletic than Boozer. Toronto might take the trade because Boozer has an expiring contract (if he doesn't option out). The Raptors would only have to deal with Boozer for one season before they could let him go. He would give them decent production and a lot of salary cap space when his contract expires. I believe that Utah is in more of a "win-now" mode of operations and Bosh would help with this cause. When Boozer is healthy, his and Bosh's numbers are pretty similar.

The Sheik · Post #7 » by **The Sheik** » Fri Apr 17, 2009 12:27 am

and you really that Bosh is practically expiring as well...so what would be the point?

Post #8 » by **The Duke** » Fri Apr 17, 2009 2:26 pm

Toronto rejects both of these...

cougarfan · Post #9 » by **cougarfan** » Sat Apr 18, 2009 3:35 am

What about AK for Hinrich. Just throwing things out there. could he get 20 minutes a game between the 1 and 2

Ming Kong! · Post #10 » by **Ming Kong!** » Sat Apr 18, 2009 3:44 am

The Sheik wrote:and you really that Bosh is practically expiring as well...so what would be the point?

Having him on a contract year would be far better than what Boozer gave us this year.

Could you imagine:

Okur/Koufos/Fesenko
Bosh/Millsap/Collins
Marion/Miles
Brewer/Korver/Almond
Williams/Knight/Price

Aint going to happen, so forget about it.

CAE15 · Post #11 » by **CAE15** » Sat Apr 18, 2009 9:58 am

cougarfan wrote:What about AK for Hinrich. Just throwing things out there. could he get 20 minutes a game between the 1 and 2

ak will make like 9 more million then kirk next year.

The Sheik · Post #12 » by **The Sheik** » Sat Apr 18, 2009 4:05 pm

Ming Kong! wrote:
Having him on a contract year would be far better than what Boozer gave us this year.

Could you imagine:

Okur/Koufos/Fesenko
Bosh/Millsap/Collins
Marion/Miles
Brewer/Korver/Almond
Williams/Knight/Price

Aint going to happen, so forget about it.

Im saying whats the point for Toronto? I would do it in a heartbeat.

Post #13 » by **FJS** » Sat Apr 18, 2009 7:53 pm

I would do both trades, but I doubt Toronto would do it.

Post #14 » by **bleu** » Sat Apr 18, 2009 8:33 pm

I'd do it in a heartbeat, but I don't think that Toronto would.

Plastered · Post #15 » by **Plastered** » Sun Apr 19, 2009 9:10 am

Pappyman wrote:Reasons:

Bosh is younger, taller, and more athletic than Boozer. Toronto might take the trade because Boozer has an expiring contract (if he doesn't option out). The Raptors would only have to deal with Boozer for one season before they could let him go. He would give them decent production and a lot of salary cap space when his contract expires. I believe that Utah is in more of a "win-now" mode of operations and Bosh would help with this cause. When Boozer is healthy, his and Bosh's numbers are pretty similar.

This is not a valid argument - Bosh is also an expiring contract so if that was what the raptors were looking for then they could just let Bosh walk..... Teams aren't in the business of helping other teams that are in "win-now" mode if it doesn't benefit them as well.... As this trade is proposed it doesn't benefit the Raptors at all. And I'm sure that Collangelo can get a lot more for bosh than Boozer.

David Ginola 14 · Post #16 » by **David Ginola 14** » Mon Apr 20, 2009 11:08 am

If Boozer opt out we don't trade him...
Marion must sign with Toronto...because is a Free Agent...

drivewayball · Post #17 » by **drivewayball** » Mon Apr 20, 2009 9:12 pm

And the reason you could get more for bosh than boozer would be??? I'm really curious.
Boozer shoots a higher percentage and rebounds better. Neither one is much of a factor defensively. How do you figure Bosh is an upgrade over Boozer??

BiggMann · Post #18 » by **BiggMann** » Thu Apr 23, 2009 8:02 pm

I still like the Boozer and AK for Shaq deal.