Tickets

Post #1 » by **Yuri Vaultin** » Fri Apr 17, 2009 11:18 pm

Hi guys, I didn't see a ticket thread, so, I figured I'd post one and ask. I heard the game for tomorrow, Saturday the 18th is sold out. Other than craigslist and scalpers is there any other way to get tickets for the game? I was hoping to take my two young lads to the game.

Cheers,

Yuri.

s e n s i · Post #2 » by **s e n s i** » Fri Apr 17, 2009 11:20 pm

sold out?! wow.

And sorry dude, I don't have a clue where else to get tix.

Post #3 » by **Yuri Vaultin** » Fri Apr 17, 2009 11:24 pm

Stupid lying ESPN... I think tickets are still available...

s e n s i · Post #4 » by **s e n s i** » Fri Apr 17, 2009 11:28 pm

ESPN of all sources said this?

evilRyu · Post #5 » by **evilRyu** » Sat Apr 18, 2009 6:32 am

Yuri, you gave my hopes up, I was excited to hear that the game was gonna be a sellout

zulu · Post #6 » by **zulu** » Sun Apr 19, 2009 8:01 pm

Hey, quick question here. I want to get some tickets for maybe tuesday or wednesday. Should I buy some off the website? Buy some at the door?

s e n s i · Post #7 » by **s e n s i** » Sun Apr 19, 2009 8:09 pm

zulu wrote:Hey, quick question here. I want to get some tickets for maybe tuesday or wednesday. Should I buy some off the website? Buy some at the door?

Uhh whatever works for you. There's never a line-up at the box office anyway. Rogers Plus also sells tickets.

Modern_epic · Post #8 » by **Modern_epic** » Sun Apr 19, 2009 8:59 pm

If you're going 500s, buying off the website lets you get better seats up there, I've found. But it's no trouble to just walk up; I've never waited more than 5 minutes in line.

RapsFanTO · Post #9 » by **RapsFanTO** » Mon Apr 20, 2009 3:59 pm

Modern_epic wrote:If you're going 500s, buying off the website lets you get better seats up there, I've found. But it's no trouble to just walk up; I've never waited more than 5 minutes in line.

I walked up 30 mins before the game and got 2 500 level tickets, row 3, for $11 each all taxes and fees in

Best i could find on the website an hour before was 500 level row 12 for $25 for both.

They must reserve some tickets for walk ups, because the row 3's were sick and they were a couple bucks cheaper.

victor page · Post #10 » by **victor page** » Mon Apr 20, 2009 7:13 pm

You can always find good lower level tickets for less than face value on craigslist or from scalpers outside the dome (unless it's a Yankees game).

I wouldn't pay face value to see the Jays - they're too cheap to field a legitimate starting rotation. Put a $150M payroll on the field and I'll mail order for tickets in January like I used to do from 1985-1994 (when the Jays payroll was at or near the top of MLB). Give me David Purcey as my no.3 starter and I'll get my tickets for half price on the grey / black market.

Modern_epic · Post #11 » by **Modern_epic** » Mon Apr 20, 2009 7:20 pm

RapsFanTO wrote:
Modern_epic wrote:If you're going 500s, buying off the website lets you get better seats up there, I've found. But it's no trouble to just walk up; I've never waited more than 5 minutes in line.

I walked up 30 mins before the game and got 2 500 level tickets, row 3, for $11 each all taxes and fees in

Best i could find on the website an hour before was 500 level row 12 for $25 for both.

They must reserve some tickets for walk ups, because the row 3's were sick and they were a couple bucks cheaper.

To get the good 500s on the web you need to order at least a few days in advance. With walk ups, sometimes you get lucky, but it's a crap shoot. I think it's when they decide to open another section of the OF that you score seats like you did.

The extra cost would be internet service charges, I think.

Modern_epic · Post #12 » by **Modern_epic** » Mon Apr 20, 2009 7:35 pm

victor page wrote:You can always find good lower level tickets for less than face value on craigslist or from scalpers outside the dome (unless it's a Yankees game).

I wouldn't pay face value to see the Jays - they're too cheap to field a legitimate starting rotation. Put a $150M payroll on the field and I'll mail order for tickets in January like I used to do from 1985-1994 (when the Jays payroll was at or near the top of MLB). Give me David Purcey as my no.3 starter and I'll get my tickets for half price on the grey / black market.

So did you also have season's tickets in 1997? Or 2001/2002? They've tried ramping up payroll to get people out a few times since the glory years, and it hasn't worked too well for them. So this time they are waiting until the team can be a contender before ramping up payroll. (And if you are going to claim you knew they would be great this year: congratulations, I guess. But it's not an opinion a rational mind was going to hold with $65M on the line.

Also, considering this more, you're desired payroll just makes me feel stupid for responding to you. If the jays sold out the dome every game, they still couldn't afford a $150 million payroll. Only one team in MLB had a payroll over $140M last year, and that was before the downturn. $120M is the max you'll see the jays at for any season soon unless Mark Cuban buys them.

victor page · Post #13 » by **victor page** » Tue Apr 21, 2009 3:36 pm

The Rogers family has ten times more money than Mark Cuban. Counting all of Canada, Toronto's TV market is one of the biggest in MLB. Same goes for merchandising. The corporate base accessible to the Blue Jays is behind only a very small handful of MLB teams. It's a big market with cheap ownership as has been the case since Labatt sold the team.

If the team was regularly winning 90-100 games, there would be 45,000 + every night at the Dome.

I didn't have season tickets in 1997. Although we had Clemens in the rotation then, and some other big money guys like Canseco, Green, Delgado and others I've probably forgotten, they still had a small market closer like Mike Timlin or Tony Castillo and a few other weak links (that Garcia dude in the outfield who couldn't hit a tee ball) that made them a huge longshot to make the playoffs.

4 years earlier the Jays had Al Leiter, David Wells, Duane Ward and Tom Henke pitching out of the bullpen for crying out loud! Fans are not going to fill the seats to see the crap they had on the field in 1997.

Jays fans are smarter than they're given credit for I guess - they know when the team is for real and when it isn't. I am pleasantly surprised by the way they've started this year but with a patchwork starting rotation, and with a non-hitter at first base, I fear that it's only a matter of time before their luck runs out.

Post #14 » by **Alfred** » Tue Apr 21, 2009 3:52 pm

I have a tickets for tonight's game through work. If you are over 20, and not morbidly obese, and want to hang out with literally the coolest Toronto Blue Jays Realgm mod there is, say something.

They are good tickets. They are row 1 of section 228 (right behind home plate).

s e n s i · Post #15 » by **s e n s i** » Tue Apr 21, 2009 3:58 pm

Alfred wrote:I have a tickets for tonight's game through work. If you are over 20, and not morbidly obese, and want to hang out with literally the coolest Toronto Blue Jays Realgm mod there is, say something.

They are good tickets. They are row 1 of section 228 (right behind home plate).

Haha, I'm gonna come over there and say what up. I'm in 130, Row 2. Serious foul ball, television territory.

Damn! Shouldn't have said!

Post #16 » by **Alfred** » Tue Apr 21, 2009 4:38 pm

chocolatesensi wrote:Haha, I'm gonna come over there and say what up. I'm in 130, Row 2. Serious foul ball, television territory.

Damn! Shouldn't have said!

You'll notice me as the linebacker-looking guy with tatoos all over my body and the crazed look in my eyes. You can introduce yourself by punching me in the face.

s e n s i · Post #17 » by **s e n s i** » Tue Apr 21, 2009 4:45 pm

Alfred wrote:
chocolatesensi wrote:Haha, I'm gonna come over there and say what up. I'm in 130, Row 2. Serious foul ball, television territory.

Damn! Shouldn't have said!

You'll notice me as the linebacker-looking guy with tatoos all over my body and the crazed look in my eyes. You can introduce yourself by punching me in the face.

Will do!

Post #18 » by **Alfred** » Tue Apr 21, 2009 6:11 pm

The tickets are off the table unfortunately!

Modern_epic · Post #19 » by **Modern_epic** » Tue Apr 21, 2009 8:11 pm

victor page wrote:The Rogers family has ten times more money than Mark Cuban. Counting all of Canada, Toronto's TV market is one of the biggest in MLB. Same goes for merchandising. The corporate base accessible to the Blue Jays is behind only a very small handful of MLB teams. It's a big market with cheap ownership as has been the case since Labatt sold the team.

If the team was regularly winning 90-100 games, there would be 45,000 + every night at the Dome.

I didn't have season tickets in 1997. Although we had Clemens in the rotation then, and some other big money guys like Canseco, Green, Delgado and others I've probably forgotten, they still had a small market closer like Mike Timlin or Tony Castillo and a few other weak links (that Garcia dude in the outfield who couldn't hit a tee ball) that made them a huge longshot to make the playoffs.

4 years earlier the Jays had Al Leiter, David Wells, Duane Ward and Tom Henke pitching out of the bullpen for crying out loud! Fans are not going to fill the seats to see the crap they had on the field in 1997.

Jays fans are smarter than they're given credit for I guess - they know when the team is for real and when it isn't. I am pleasantly surprised by the way they've started this year but with a patchwork starting rotation, and with a non-hitter at first base, I fear that it's only a matter of time before their luck runs out.

The Jays aren't owned by the Rogers family, they are owned by Rogers Communications. Which is a publicly traded company. So you can call them cheap all you want, but they are not about to run the team for no profit, let alone at a loss like Cuban. They need to know fans might return to the levels of old before they will spend the money on payroll, and (at least with Beaston at the helm now) they know they need a promising young team before money being injected will make the team good enough to bring fans back.

As for them being Canada's team? Claiming the support of all of Canada is a great gimmick, but not a realistic buisness plan. Lots of Canadians don't like Toronto. Geographically, we are way further away than many American teams to lots of Canadians. Windsor is right next to Detroit; Vancouver is about 20 times closer to Seattle; Minneapolis is 4 times closer to Winnipeg. But most importantly, it ignores the fact that most of the country could care less about baseball. Outside of the Jays, is there even a team above A-ball in in the country? I don't think so.

Anyway, it's too bad fans wouldn't fill the seats for 1997's team, because if they had, then the Jays could have afforded replacing Mike Timlin in 1998. And you can rant about the Jays having David Wells and Al Leiter in the bullpen in '92 all you want, but that's like talking about the Jays having Escobar, Carpenter and Halladay in the rotation in '99. (Henke and Ward are impressive though, don't get me wrong.)

To get back to the point, though: I have no doubt that with all of the Jays bandwagon fans aboard, the team could be in the LA/Philly/Detroit/Chicago payroll area. But under this economic climate, that's closer to $100M than $150M.

(Also, ownership got cheap when Interbrew bought Labbat, not when the Jays were sold.)

victor page · Post #20 » by **victor page** » Tue Apr 21, 2009 9:02 pm

I agree with a lot of what you're saying - though the Rogers family owns a controlling interest in Rogers Comm. so it's a half dozen of one and six of the other. The Dallas Mavericks do not operate profitably but Cuban pours money into it because he chooses to do so. And while baseball is nowhere close to hockey in Canada, there are a ton of Jays fans in both western Canada and the Maritimes.

I guess where we differ is on fan support. The fans never let down the Jays; it was the other way around. The stars of the early 90s were allowed to leave for nothing or get old with no replacements. A new core emerged (Delgado, Green, Sprague, Carpenter, Gonzalez) but instead of supplementing them with elite free agents, Interbrew went cheap and fielded a deeply flawed roster year after year.

The existing core (Wells, Rios, Halladay, Hill, Snider, Lind) is in the same boat. Why not spend a little bit and get a first baseman that hits like a first baseman, and maybe a replacement for AJ Burnett, and then watch fans snap up the tickets?

I don't agree that the onus is on the fans to fill the seats for a mediocre team, then wait for the team to spend like a big market team again. I can't think of an example of where that has ever worked in any sport.