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This has been mentioned on other threads (*DSW) but lets get it on one.
Pending a trade, we will have a top-8 pick. So what does your draft board look like? Where is your drop off? What are our biggest needs at the end of the season?
1.) Trade
2.) Griffin/Rubio/Thabest/Evans/Harden*/
3.)then a drop-I would need to be sold on these guys--Clark/Curry/Derozan/Lawson/Jennings/
4.) Guys I do not want--Hill, henderson, likely Jennings.
So my board right now begs for a major trade, then it is 5 deep but 9 overall. There are 3 guys I do not want, but a lot of question marks. I feel that 3 things need to happen this offseason
1.) Get a 3rd big that focuses on defense to fill the 30min with Love/Al.
2.) Add a playmaking guard that can get in the paint and keep Foye at the SG. I prefer if this guard is big enough to defend the 2.
3.) Talent is added/developed that keeps Gomes/Bassy on the bench. I think those guys could be very good bench players, but they hurt as starters.
1.) Will be hard to do, maybe Thebeast?
2.) Easier to do, but perhaps our biggest need?
3.) The fan-homer in me wants Brewer to come back and able to beat-out Gomes.
Pending a trade, we will have a top-8 pick. So what does your draft board look like? Where is your drop off? What are our biggest needs at the end of the season?
1.) Trade
2.) Griffin/Rubio/Thabest/Evans/Harden*/
3.)then a drop-I would need to be sold on these guys--Clark/Curry/Derozan/Lawson/Jennings/
4.) Guys I do not want--Hill, henderson, likely Jennings.
So my board right now begs for a major trade, then it is 5 deep but 9 overall. There are 3 guys I do not want, but a lot of question marks. I feel that 3 things need to happen this offseason
1.) Get a 3rd big that focuses on defense to fill the 30min with Love/Al.
2.) Add a playmaking guard that can get in the paint and keep Foye at the SG. I prefer if this guard is big enough to defend the 2.
3.) Talent is added/developed that keeps Gomes/Bassy on the bench. I think those guys could be very good bench players, but they hurt as starters.
1.) Will be hard to do, maybe Thebeast?
2.) Easier to do, but perhaps our biggest need?
3.) The fan-homer in me wants Brewer to come back and able to beat-out Gomes.
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My draft board (1-8):
Griffin
Rubio
Evans
Harden
Derozan
Jennings
Henderson
Lawson
Re: Trade
I don't know if the best case scenario is to make a trade right now that uses up a lot of our assets. A better scenario may be to wait until next summer when we will have more options. Next season will best be used developing our pups, old and new, and waiting for Al to get back to full strength.
Ideally, in the next two offseasons I would like to get starting caliber players in the 1-3 positions. In this draft I hope to get two of those filled-- preferably the 1 and 2 because I am willing to give Brewer one more year to see if he can be our 3.
So basically, I do not expect us to fill all our holes next season, or to try and field a playoff team overnight. What I want us to do next season is devlop our talent and get several questions answered. The hope is that after next season---(1) we will have an idea how good the players we drafted in '09 are going to be, (2) we will know whether Pekovic is going to be our third big, (3) we will know whether Love and Jefferson is a good long term fit, and (4) we will know what we have in Brewer. Once all these questions are answered we will know exactly where the team needs improvement. At that point in time we can make trades or sign a free agent. If we be patient one more year and watch another losing season, the hope would be we would have AL/Love/Brewer/Pekovic/Foye (6th man)/All of our draft picks this year. Then we would have cap space plus our own pick (assuming we our bad), plus the Utah pick, all to package for elite talent to add to our core.
Griffin
Rubio
Evans
Harden
Derozan
Jennings
Henderson
Lawson
Re: Trade
I don't know if the best case scenario is to make a trade right now that uses up a lot of our assets. A better scenario may be to wait until next summer when we will have more options. Next season will best be used developing our pups, old and new, and waiting for Al to get back to full strength.
Ideally, in the next two offseasons I would like to get starting caliber players in the 1-3 positions. In this draft I hope to get two of those filled-- preferably the 1 and 2 because I am willing to give Brewer one more year to see if he can be our 3.
So basically, I do not expect us to fill all our holes next season, or to try and field a playoff team overnight. What I want us to do next season is devlop our talent and get several questions answered. The hope is that after next season---(1) we will have an idea how good the players we drafted in '09 are going to be, (2) we will know whether Pekovic is going to be our third big, (3) we will know whether Love and Jefferson is a good long term fit, and (4) we will know what we have in Brewer. Once all these questions are answered we will know exactly where the team needs improvement. At that point in time we can make trades or sign a free agent. If we be patient one more year and watch another losing season, the hope would be we would have AL/Love/Brewer/Pekovic/Foye (6th man)/All of our draft picks this year. Then we would have cap space plus our own pick (assuming we our bad), plus the Utah pick, all to package for elite talent to add to our core.
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part of the trade idea is that teams are trying to prepare themselves for 2010, so they are more likely to make a move that gives up value.
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I am really low on us drafting Harden. He is undersized with Foye at 6'4, unathletic, and just seems dull and sleepy from watching interviews.
I would rather us play Brewer at guard for his defense, hustle, and athleticism. We already have a solid scorer in Al, and I'm hoping scoring option A/B will be the new point guard.
Also I am not high on Evans, he seems really thick like Jennings. I would much rather us draft one of the high potential long SF's in Clark and Aminu.
I would rather us play Brewer at guard for his defense, hustle, and athleticism. We already have a solid scorer in Al, and I'm hoping scoring option A/B will be the new point guard.
Also I am not high on Evans, he seems really thick like Jennings. I would much rather us draft one of the high potential long SF's in Clark and Aminu.
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Aminu's not declaring. I wouldn't mind Clark but we have 34987397983 SFs. Our backcourt is what needs an infusion of talent... big time.
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My only hope is that Jordan Hill is drafted 4th. If that happens, someone good will fall to us, assuming we don't move up.
1. Griffin
2. Rubio
3. Thabeet
4. Hill
5. Evans
6. DeRozan
7. Harden
8. I just pray we don't fall this far.
I don't consider Hill on our draft board, I just want him to go 4th to the Wizards, Clippers, Thunder, or Kings. He's the one guy in the top 10 that we definitely shouldn't be considering.
Hoping casey, MnWI, or J-Dub checks this thread cause I'm curious about Craig Brackins. I read somewhere, forget where, but they talked about Brackins being moldable into a SF. I'm pretty sure it was a legit source, what are your thoughts on that? Was the guy smokin the good stuff, or is Brackins a potential SF option at #18 for us?
My ideal, perfect, conspiracy theorist, Stern's a d-bag, belief on how the lottery will turn out...
1. Thunder - Blake Griffin
2. Knicks - Ricky Rubio
3. Kings - James Harden
4. Wizards - Jordan Hill
5. Clippers - Brandon Jennings
6. Wolves - Hasheem Thabeet
7. Grizzlies - Tyreke Evans
8. Warriors - Earl Clark
9. Raptors - Demar DeRozan
10. Bucks - Gerald Henderson
11. Nets - Terrence Williams
12. Bobcats - Stephen Curry
13. Pacers - Jeff Teague
14. Suns - Chase Buddinger
1. Griffin
2. Rubio
3. Thabeet
4. Hill
5. Evans
6. DeRozan
7. Harden
8. I just pray we don't fall this far.
I don't consider Hill on our draft board, I just want him to go 4th to the Wizards, Clippers, Thunder, or Kings. He's the one guy in the top 10 that we definitely shouldn't be considering.
Hoping casey, MnWI, or J-Dub checks this thread cause I'm curious about Craig Brackins. I read somewhere, forget where, but they talked about Brackins being moldable into a SF. I'm pretty sure it was a legit source, what are your thoughts on that? Was the guy smokin the good stuff, or is Brackins a potential SF option at #18 for us?
My ideal, perfect, conspiracy theorist, Stern's a d-bag, belief on how the lottery will turn out...
1. Thunder - Blake Griffin
2. Knicks - Ricky Rubio
3. Kings - James Harden
4. Wizards - Jordan Hill
5. Clippers - Brandon Jennings
6. Wolves - Hasheem Thabeet
7. Grizzlies - Tyreke Evans
8. Warriors - Earl Clark
9. Raptors - Demar DeRozan
10. Bucks - Gerald Henderson
11. Nets - Terrence Williams
12. Bobcats - Stephen Curry
13. Pacers - Jeff Teague
14. Suns - Chase Buddinger
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Definitely not 18. 28 at the earliest
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Rubio
Griffin
Harden
Evans
Henderson
DeRozan
Lawson
Jennings
Griffin
Harden
Evans
Henderson
DeRozan
Lawson
Jennings
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Griffin
Rubio
DeRozan
Clark
Evans
Harden
Jennings
Thabeet
Rubio
DeRozan
Clark
Evans
Harden
Jennings
Thabeet
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Assuming that Rubio comes out:
1. Griffin
2. Rubio
3. Thabeet
4. Harden
5. Jennings
6. DeRozan
7. Evans
8. Lawson
9. Clark
10. Mullens
1. Griffin
2. Rubio
3. Thabeet
4. Harden
5. Jennings
6. DeRozan
7. Evans
8. Lawson
9. Clark
10. Mullens
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How can you have Thabeet third on your list? Just cause Randy Foye wants him?
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How can you have him on your list at all? You don't pick that high for a backup. Love exceeded expectations. Ergo, Wolves can't pick a post player.
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deeney0 wrote:How can you have him on your list at all? You don't pick that high for a backup. Love exceeded expectations. Ergo, Wolves can't pick a post player.
I think you could make the argument that we spent last years pick on a back. Jefferson is a PF, Love is a PF, Thabeet actually plays a different position than those guys.
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What is this back-up talk? 96-32(love)-36 (Al)=28. We need to draft a 3rd big that has legit size. Thabeet would fill that role fine. if anything, limiting his minutes would keep him and the other bigs, in better conditioning and help prevent injury.
Mchale won on some boston teams that did the 3 man big rotation with Parish/Bird/Mchale. Put love into the 6th man Mchale role and make it work. This scenario is also pausable with Griffin instead of Thabeet.
The only argument against drafting a big for this role is that our backcourt needs a slashing penetrator incredibly bad.
Mchale won on some boston teams that did the 3 man big rotation with Parish/Bird/Mchale. Put love into the 6th man Mchale role and make it work. This scenario is also pausable with Griffin instead of Thabeet.
The only argument against drafting a big for this role is that our backcourt needs a slashing penetrator incredibly bad.
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Wouldn't this thread be easier if Devilz just tells everyone who they should pick, he seems like he's the most in tune with player talent anyway---ie, kevin love
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Worm Guts wrote:deeney0 wrote:How can you have him on your list at all? You don't pick that high for a backup. Love exceeded expectations. Ergo, Wolves can't pick a post player.
I think you could make the argument that we spent last years pick on a back. Jefferson is a PF, Love is a PF, Thabeet actually plays a different position than those guys.
Nonetheless, no turning back now unless one of them is traded.
revprodeji wrote:What is this back-up talk? 96-32(love)-36 (Al)=28. We need to draft a 3rd big that has legit size. Thabeet would fill that role fine. if anything, limiting his minutes would keep him and the other bigs, in better conditioning and help prevent injury.
Mchale won on some boston teams that did the 3 man big rotation with Parish/Bird/Mchale. Put love into the 6th man Mchale role and make it work. This scenario is also pausable with Griffin instead of Thabeet.
The only argument against drafting a big for this role is that our backcourt needs a slashing penetrator incredibly bad.
I wouldn't be against it if the Wolves had talent elsewhere, but they don't - quite unlike those Boston teams. There are so many players available that could be upgrades in the backcourt. If Thabeet were the only valuable player available that would be one thing, but he is not.
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Those boston teams did most of the work with decent back-court players.If a team has a dominate front-court we only need a decent backcourt. Unfortunately, we do not even have that. My only thought is that if Thabeet is the BPA we can grab him because he would fill a serious role. If there is a guard we have as a BPA above him then grab the guard. It puts us in a position where we do not need to draft a position because we have a role for both. That is why i fully advocate going BPA in this draft with the first pick if we are nothing working a trade.
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If necessary, trade up to get Rubio.
We definitely have attractive pieces with expirings and picks.
We definitely have attractive pieces with expirings and picks.
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If Thabeet lasts til pick 5. Then it's kinda obvious that he'd give you a better value than anyone available. I would say we should trade down a couple picks and maybe try to grab that back-up PG that could compete with Telfair since many people don't like him. Trading down one or two spots could get us a good piece and then we could go after whoever your fav sg prospect is after that.
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We can get a back-up pg with the Miami pick.
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