Sloan finally calling these boys out

[outerspacefella]

...Sloan has a long history of whining about players and then having them shipped off to other teams (good luck having that happen with Kirilenko and hs massive contract) ...
The Jazz are not going to be a serious title contender with Jerry Sloan.......

Now that's funny... of course Sloan has a long history of whatever you can think of... he's been out there exposed for more than two decades!!! It's like saying "Earth is rounded"... of course it is truth, but you really are not helping any astronomical debate conclusion with it!!!

And this thing about being a contender... you know... players are the ones playing out there with the basketball... if players can think of anything that Sloan could be doing better, Sloan would hear them... are you telling me that if Koufos were throwed out there instead of Collins we would have beaten the Lakers or Denver or Portland or Dallas?? Our team lost those games in embarrasement!!! Thta's not a coaching thing. And the Warriors/Wolves at home.... coaching errors too???

[outerspacefella]

Let me tell you something... if Deron Williams and Andrei Kirilenko or Carlos Boozer give us the kind of performance Derrick Rose and Joaquim Noah put @Boston today, then we can beat the Lakers without a doubt... or any other team. Are they going to give us that? As long as they don't, there's no coaching fault other than the usual errors that any coach can have in any game.

[Soul Patch]

Someone posted on the board something along the lines of "Sloan doesn't know how to coach players with no heart" And I think that's exactly right.

Sloan has always worked hard and put effort into everything he did on the court, he has the same attitude as a coach, and wants that same attitude out of his players.

[red4hf]

Someone posted on the board something along the lines of "Sloan doesn't know how to coach players with no heart" And I think that's exactly right.

Sloan has always worked hard and put effort into everything he did on the court, he has the same attitude as a coach, and wants that same attitude out of his players.

Give me a break, this crap is just getting nauseating........ AK has heart, Sloan sure as hell doesn't know how to Coach him....... Deron has heart, Sloan burried him on the bench 3/4 of a season behind Palacio and McBrick....... Okur has heart, Sloan derided and complained about him his first year in Utah.......

People need to get of Jerr's jock, he's just not worth it.......

[red4hf]

Now that's funny... of course Sloan has a long history of whatever you can think of... he's been out there exposed for more than two decades!!! It's like saying "Earth is rounded"... of course it is truth, but you really are not helping any astronomical debate conclusion with it!!!

And this thing about being a contender... you know... players are the ones playing out there with the basketball... if players can think of anything that Sloan could be doing better, Sloan would hear them... are you telling me that if Koufos were throwed out there instead of Collins we would have beaten the Lakers or Denver or Portland or Dallas?? Our team lost those games in embarrasement!!! Thta's not a coaching thing. And the Warriors/Wolves at home.... coaching errors too???

Why do teams have Coaches then? I don't get it, why are the Jazz paying Sloan millions, to sit on his ass and twittle his thumbs? I can do that at 1/10 the price.......

Coaches are there to set up strategies, offensive as well as defensive, to set up plays and substitutions and to make adjustments....... When something's not working the Coach has to make adjustments, that's what he gets paid to do....... Instead, our Coach, just sits there and then complains about how his players "didn't play hard", instead of making a defensive adjustment or a substitution or taking a timeout to stop the other team's run, Sloan just sits there, and then goes complain to the media afterwards.......

That's not Coaching, or at least, that's not good Coaching....... Other franchises make changes, and yes, sometimes you have to make a Coaching change as well as getting different players, that's just a facet of being a good manager........

People around the league think having one Coach for 20 years is such a great thing, sometimes, it just shows how stale and predictable a franchise has become........ Is there any team that comes to play the Jazz that doesn't know EXACTLY what the Jazz are going to do, what substitutions they are going to make, and what plays they are going to run?

[outerspacefella]

What startegy can you set forth when your players miss a million layups in key games? Or when Boozer stay static on his feet when a rival goes to the basket? Or when your players just look scared? Or when your players go to the basket away from contact? Or when your star player don't protect the ball? Or when your bigs just don't box out people? Or when your players allow three no names to put like 60 points on you at home?
Look what Rose did to the Celtics @ Boston! Do you think that's ONLY TALENT? That's rage! That's toughness! That's not to be SCARED! That's to refuse to feel yoursel less than your rival!
People say Sloan can´t coach no heart players!!! And who can?
This basketball game is 40% talent and 60% guts and mental toughness. Our roster just fail the test for guts and toughness.

[Ern III]

There's blame on both sides of the ledger for the current state of the Jazz. Sloan's anything but a quitter, but he's an old man by anyone's standards, and I suspect he'd like to spend some quality time doing whatever the hell he wants with his money and the people he loves and whom love him all year round before he drops off the perch. Perhaps that's a little caustic, but it's a decision and a reality we all get to face eventually.

Now, admittedly, I'm very cynical, but questions were raised with me when Jerry extended his deal nowhere near close to its end back in January. His history is one of offseason decisions and (at least public) procrastination when it comes to contracts and future commitments. So, was his out-of-kilter extension a dying wish of the late, great LHM fulfilled? Or, was it Sloan simply envisioning the not too distant end of his days on the Utah bench and thus guaranteeing what money he could before it was taken out of his hands or he'd grown too tired of his roster's lacking capacity to carry out his coaching dreams to continue?

[Ming Kong!]

Let me tell you something... if Deron Williams and Andrei Kirilenko or Carlos Boozer give us the kind of performance Derrick Rose and Joaquim Noah put @Boston today, then we can beat the Lakers without a doubt... or any other team. Are they going to give us that? As long as they don't, there's no coaching fault other than the usual errors that any coach can have in any game.

The Celtics were missing KG, that's a big difference, the Lakers are healthy.

I think we have a chance, it's the playoffs, and the Jazz play up to the level of the competition. For the most part, while they lose on the road so much, many of those loses are close games, we just need hang around in every game and steal what we can on the road. Luckily LA has a pretty weak home crowd, and the Jazz need to give the fans something to yell about. To me this is like the WCF, cause if we get past the Lakers, we don't have to worry about SA or Portland, while Denver is TBD. If we make it to the 2nd round, or give LA a nice run for their money (6-7 games, competitive games on the road), then I'm happy.

[red4hf]

What startegy can you set forth when your players miss a million layups in key games? Or when Boozer stay static on his feet when a rival goes to the basket? Or when your players just look scared? Or when your players go to the basket away from contact? Or when your star player don't protect the ball? Or when your bigs just don't box out people? Or when your players allow three no names to put like 60 points on you at home?
Look what Rose did to the Celtics @ Boston! Do you think that's ONLY TALENT? That's rage! That's toughness! That's not to be SCARED! That's to refuse to feel yoursel less than your rival!
People say Sloan can´t coach no heart players!!! And who can?
This basketball game is 40% talent and 60% guts and mental toughness. Our roster just fail the test for guts and toughness.

What do you do? You yank that player who doesn't move his feet on defense, you make him work in practice until he starts moving his feet....... You switch up defensive assignments, for example I've never understood why Boozer guards Aldrich whenever we play Portland (and especially the last game we played Portland)...... Wouldn't Memo be a much better choice? Aldrich is taller than Boozer, but not Memo, he can shoot over Boozer anytime he wants, but not over Memo....... And he's usually out there with Przbilla, someone we don't have to worry about posting (and embarrassing) Boozer, so wouldn't it make that much more sense to make that defensive adjustment?

If our roster "just fail (sic) the test for guts and toughness" then isn't it time we fire the GM? And what does that say about Sloan's ability to make players "tough", sin't that also part of Coaching?

[outerspacefella]

This is getting ridiculous... you jusn don't MAKE PEOPLE TOUGH.... players are tough or they aren't...

About Aldridge... man... he would be smiling ear to ear if we put Okur on him; Memo is taller but he's slower than Boozer, much more slower... ALdridge would destroy Memo at will. The thing is., may be, Boozer should not be playing so much minutes when we play big agile froncourts... I can admit it... but... do you seriously think Koufos is ready? I'm ok with Kosta, and the kid has the tools to help us and could be great in a couple years, but do duçyou seriously think Koufos would have been the difference? Sorry, but IMO it's not serious to think such way. The guy's just a rookie learning the real game.

[BarneyGumble]

I like Jerry but he'll never beat teams coached by guys like Pop or Jackson because he refuses to make adjustments and they are simply smarter than him. Sloan is like the cook on a Navy ship....he'll go down with the sinking ship before he jumps and tries something new.

His big mistakes this year were: playing Knight ahead of Price even when Knight was killing us; allowing Boozer to play big minutes when it became clear Boozer wasn't even attempting to play defense anymore; allowing AK to give away the game against the Heat on the road (the game that broke our spirit) with no repercussions; and keeping Koufos on the bench/D-league in favor of players not nearly as capable. Also, the fact that we have more fast break uncontested layups scored on us than I've ever seen this season HAS to be partly due to coaching.

[red4hf]

This is getting ridiculous... you jusn don't MAKE PEOPLE TOUGH.... players are tough or they aren't...

About Aldridge... man... he would be smiling ear to ear if we put Okur on him; Memo is taller but he's slower than Boozer, much more slower... ALdridge would destroy Memo at will. The thing is., may be, Boozer should not be playing so much minutes when we play big agile froncourts... I can admit it... but... do you seriously think Koufos is ready? I'm ok with Kosta, and the kid has the tools to help us and could be great in a couple years, but do duçyou seriously think Koufos would have been the difference? Sorry, but IMO it's not serious to think such way. The guy's just a rookie learning the real game.

What games have you been watching? Memo is NOT slower than Boozer, not this year at least.......

I don't know if Koufos is ready, but I do know he'll never be ready playing in the NBDL.......

[outerspacefella]

This is getting ridiculous... you jusn don't MAKE PEOPLE TOUGH.... players are tough or they aren't...

About Aldridge... man... he would be smiling ear to ear if we put Okur on him; Memo is taller but he's slower than Boozer, much more slower... ALdridge would destroy Memo at will. The thing is., may be, Boozer should not be playing so much minutes when we play big agile froncourts... I can admit it... but... do you seriously think Koufos is ready? I'm ok with Kosta, and the kid has the tools to help us and could be great in a couple years, but do duçyou seriously think Koufos would have been the difference? Sorry, but IMO it's not serious to think such way. The guy's just a rookie learning the real game.

What games have you been watching? Memo is NOT slower than Boozer, not this year at least.......

I don't know if Koufos is ready, but I do know he'll never be ready playing in the NBDL.......

You got a point with the NBDL thing; our young bigs will not be ready playing there. Koufos should have been playing some minutes down the stretch, and Fesenko too; we were getting embarrased so there would have not been any major damage playing them...

I didn't register it, but I think I watched something like 70 Jazz games this season, and about 35-40 Blazer's games... and I know Aldridge moves too much around for Memo to go at him...

[jmgambino24]

why would anyone want to fire sloan? This guys an amazing coach who has instant credibility. If you bring in some lame coach maybe youll remember what it was like to have one of the elite coaches in the league. Sloan should stay as long as he wants.Plus Phil Johnson should take over team when Sloans retires if he wants the job. How he isnt a head coach on another team yet ill never know.