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Chisholm's Year in Review: Phoenix Suns 

Post#1 » by bballCT » Sun Apr 19, 2009 1:33 am

Article from TSN.ca:
http://www.tsn.ca/blogs/tim_chisholm/?id=275170

In terms of the trade market, it's hard to tell what's out there. Stoudemire has a very tarnished image right now and can choose to opt-out of his contract at season's end, making him less-than-appealing as a player to a team looking to inject talent into their roster. Plus, it's difficult to get a read on what (read: how much money) Phoenix wants in return in such a scenario. Cheap young players that are high on potential and draft picks? Who is going to give that up for a guy who has missed 112 regular season games in the last four years and who can terminate his deal at the end of the season? The same basically applies to Shaq, so there is a very real chance that both are still on the Phoenix payroll when training camp tips off in October.
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Post#2 » by eastsidecrossover » Sun Apr 19, 2009 4:37 am

To me it looks like you are a Chris Bosh fan wanting to point out how bad people think Amare is. First of all, this is a blog, and who the hell is this guy??? We don't give a crap what a Toronto moron has to say what he has no idea about. yeah, anyone can blog about anything. Second, why do you care and come to this board to post this crap?

For some reason people want to tear down Amare all the time. They want to blame him, say he is a horrible player, he is hurt all the time etc. The moronic thing this guy talks about is how these things are usually overcome in a trade. The guy came back from one of the worst injuries and the next year made the 1st team all nba. He gets poked in the eye twic and missing games for that is a stupid reason to even talk about how many he has missed. The team that trades for will ask if he will do a sign in trade etc. Most likely they will not put themselves up for that failure of him walking away.

Second of all, the suns would be stupid to trade their best player. Im getting sick of these stupid blogs and people devaluing amare and hating on him. Maybe it will light a fire under his arss to play harder next year.
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Post#3 » by Miklo » Sun Apr 19, 2009 5:07 am

eastsidecrossover wrote:To me it looks like you are a Chris Bosh fan wanting to point out how bad people think Amare is. First of all, this is a blog, and who the hell is this guy??? We don't give a crap what a Toronto moron has to say what he has no idea about. yeah, anyone can blog about anything. Second, why do you care and come to this board to post this crap?

For some reason people want to tear down Amare all the time. They want to blame him, say he is a horrible player, he is hurt all the time etc. The moronic thing this guy talks about is how these things are usually overcome in a trade. The guy came back from one of the worst injuries and the next year made the 1st team all nba. He gets poked in the eye twic and missing games for that is a stupid reason to even talk about how many he has missed. The team that trades for will ask if he will do a sign in trade etc. Most likely they will not put themselves up for that failure of him walking away.

Second of all, the suns would be stupid to trade their best player. Im getting sick of these stupid blogs and people devaluing amare and hating on him. Maybe it will light a fire under his arss to play harder next year.


+1 I'm sick of hearing that crap how do people forget we were all saying he was the best center in the league when he was playing C , he was ROY, All Star, Olympic, First team NBA etc etc ...Amare is a beast

And who the hell is this Chisholm? I went on and read some more "entries" of his "blog" - they are practicallly all hating on other teams and other teams' stars.

CHISHOLM: THE SUN IS SETTING IN PHOENIX


Well Tim, the Raptors aren't really flying in Toronto either but do you hear us talking ish about Chris Bosh?
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Post#4 » by ihateginobili » Sun Apr 19, 2009 7:51 am

The best thing the Suns can do this off-season is try to unload jrich to someone. Hopefully there is another Isaiah Thomas out there to take him. Keep Shaq, Nash and Amare for another season. Amare opts out, Shaq and Nash are gone, and you have a ton of money to go after a d-wade or someone of that caliber in 2010. Whatever you get for Shaq that is beyond next season is just flat out stupid, unless you get a superstar for him, which isn’t going to happen. Nash can play out the remainder of his contract and will probably sign in NY or Toronto. My point is, for the future of this team let all these old guys just come off the damn books because any trade you can possibly make isn’t going to get us a title anyway next season.
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Post#5 » by eastsidecrossover » Sun Apr 19, 2009 2:32 pm

I see your point ihateginobili, and felt the same. However, this could be the biggest set back and blow to this franchise. suns saved all that money to go after Kobe, did not happen. Even before that in the lock out year, suns had the most money to spend and did not land any big contract names. I would love for them to go after a D-wade type, but why would he leave south beach to go to tempe beach park? Thing is, if all of our good players leave, such as Amare, why would anyone come to phx just for the money with a horrible team?

CB4rules is just being an Amare hater and no one reads this lame fool up in Toronto.
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Post#6 » by rsavaj » Sun Apr 19, 2009 3:59 pm

Amare's PHX's best player? Really?

I like IHG's plan. Blank slate in 2010.
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Post#7 » by lilfishi22 » Sun Apr 19, 2009 4:13 pm

Blank slate sounds good in theory. The downside to having a blank slate is that often GM's would give expensive contracts to players to fill out the roster. What I don't want is for us to turn into the Clippers, where we have talented players but because we are trying to fill the roster we forget about team chemistry. I don't want a team that's just "put together." Also we will not attract any top tier FA's in 2010 regardless of how much cap space we got.

Which is why I would support Kerr giving Amare a near max contract. As sucky as the guy is on defense, he put up numbers every night on the offensive end. We should build a defense team around him ala Pistons covering Big Ben's offensive deficiency.
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Post#8 » by gumpspeed » Sun Apr 19, 2009 4:14 pm

rsavaj wrote:Amare's PHX's best player? Really?

I like IHG's plan. Blank slate in 2010.


Buyout Nash and resign him to a back loaded contract. Sign Trevor Ariza, draft T.Willams.

Start

Nash/Goran
T.Willams/LB
Ariza/Hill/Dud
Amare/Lou/Stro
Shaq/Lopez

let Shaq expire in 2010 and go from there.
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Post#9 » by rsavaj » Sun Apr 19, 2009 5:09 pm

gumpspeed wrote:
rsavaj wrote:Amare's PHX's best player? Really?

I like IHG's plan. Blank slate in 2010.


Buyout Nash and resign him to a back loaded contract. Sign Trevor Ariza, draft T.Willams.

Start

Nash/Goran
T.Willams/LB
Ariza/Hill/Dud
Amare/Lou/Stro
Shaq/Lopez

let Shaq expire in 2010 and go from there.


We can't sign Ariza b/c we're not going to use anything more than the vet min this offseason. And I'm not sure why we'd buyout Nash before re-signing him; we can just sign him to an extension this summer.
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Post#10 » by pidi » Sun Apr 19, 2009 5:14 pm

is it possible to buy shaq out and resign him on the vet´s minimun??
so many teams did that. which part of salarie will be count against us? the buy out money or the money from the new contract??
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Post#11 » by rsavaj » Sun Apr 19, 2009 5:30 pm

pidi wrote:is it possible to buy shaq out and resign him on the vet´s minimun??
so many teams did that. which part of salarie will be count against us? the buy out money or the money from the new contract??


That's a good question, but I don't think Shaq would re-sign for the vet min.
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Post#12 » by pidi » Sun Apr 19, 2009 5:33 pm

if he would, we would be able to add another fa to this roster and win a championship, haha
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Post#13 » by DaDragicShow » Sun Apr 19, 2009 5:44 pm

pidi wrote:if he would, we would be able to add another fa to this roster and win a championship, haha


Championship? Are we talking about championships? :evil:
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Post#14 » by pidi » Sun Apr 19, 2009 6:06 pm

i can see us the next world heavyweight champion. triple h u better watch out, haha
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