Start Powe

[threrf23]

We could use his rebounding in the starting lineup. Baby is better fit to guard Brad Miller off the bench, anyway.

[Legendary 33]

Bulls fan here. Powe was atrocious today, your better off with big baby & Perkins. They (especially big baby) were giving us problems all game.

[MVP16]

I agree. Doc really likes having a big who can shoot and he is right to a certain extent, but Powe is just flat out better and deserves to start IMO. Baby played 40 minutes and has 3 rebounds to show for it. Powe got 8 rebounds in 17 minutes, plus 8 points. We got outrebounded by 8. I think the weakness of not having a jumpshooter at 1 of the big man spots in the starting lineup will be overcome by Powe/Perkins being able to dominate the paint and push the Chicago starting bigs around since they are both skinny.

Also, there's no reason for Mikki Moore to play unless we are in foul trouble. We should stick to a 3 big man rotation of Perk/Powe/Baby.

[s1ickd]

Bad idea. Perk and Powe canot shoot from outside 5 feet. Rondo is a shaky shooter at best. It's not going to be pretty when 2 out of your starting 5 are actually reliable shooters.

You need to start Baby for his mid range shot.

Powe comes into a second unit that has marbury, House, and Moore... who all can also shoot outside 5 feet. Powe and TA are the unreliable shooters in the 2nd unit. It's better balance that way.

[Rocky5000]

Well I don't know about starting, but definitely play him more. Same goes for TA. If you take Ben Gordon out of the game, we win.

[threrf23]

For clarification, I'm not necessarily even saying play him more, just start him and use Baby off the bench.

Also, even if Powe doesn't stretch the offense (does Baby really do that much to free up open jump shots, anyway? I know it helps free Rondo perhaps, but), we can afford to miss more shots without one of him/Baby on the high post as we should be better on the O boards, and he is also more likely to draw fouls and be more productive on a per shot basis.

Baby is the better defender rebounding aside, and a bigger/stronger body. We have sufficient defense in the starting lineup without him, particularly against the Bulls. All things considered I feel like Powe is a better fit for the starting lineup and Baby makes more sense off the bench. Right now we have our two best Centers starting and a couple of relatively weak big men off the bench, whereas Brad Miller is arguably the Bulls' strongest C and he is used off the bench.

[MVP16]

Bad idea. Perk and Powe canot shoot from outside 5 feet. Rondo is a shaky shooter at best. It's not going to be pretty when 2 out of your starting 5 are actually reliable shooters.

You need to start Baby for his mid range shot.

Powe comes into a second unit that has marbury, House, and Moore... who all can also shoot outside 5 feet. Powe and TA are the unreliable shooters in the 2nd unit. It's better balance that way.

If you really want to spread the floor, then you can start House and play Pierce at pf - that will spread the floor even more. I'm sure House can get 3 rebounds in 40 minutes of play and you don't have to worry about Thomas posting you up so Pierce can handle him.

Sure, have a pf who can spread the floor is a nice luxury to have - but it is a luxury. The more important aspect is the rebounding, post up ability, finishing inside and Powe is much better at that then Baby.

And the spacing that Baby provides is overrated IMO. He doesn't have the range of a KG, his range is 15 feet or so. In addition, he is short for a pf so many times even though he has an open at first, a guy like Thomas can recover and still bother the shot. Scalabrine provides more spacing because he has 3 point range so this argument is much more valid in his case(if he comes back).

If you take out the game against Chicago when Powe got injured in the first few minutes, he has averaged 16 points and 8.2 rebounds in 5 starts. He is a better player when he gets to start and has been a much more productive starter then Big Baby. Just because Baby is a better jumpshooter doesn't mean he should start.

[mrblunt]

Trust me if we started Powe and play him more minutes than Davis we win this series.

[Fencer reregistered]

Trust me if we started Powe and play him more minutes than Davis we win this series.

And if we start Davis and play him more minutes than Powe we also win this series.

And the same would probably go for an if-healthy Scalabrine.

Your point?

[Jughead]

Bad idea. Perk and Powe canot shoot from outside 5 feet. Rondo is a shaky shooter at best. It's not going to be pretty when 2 out of your starting 5 are actually reliable shooters.

You need to start Baby for his mid range shot.

Powe comes into a second unit that has marbury, House, and Moore... who all can also shoot outside 5 feet. Powe and TA are the unreliable shooters in the 2nd unit. It's better balance that way.

Yeah, well, Baby can't rebound or defend within 5 feet and defense trumps offense. Pick and roll defense was horrible yesterday and the finger points squarely at Davis. I'm generally a Doc supporter, but his blind support of Davis because he "spread the floor" is getting under my skin. They needed rebounding, Powe gave them rebounding, and Doc yanked him in the fourth as soon as Bulls packed it in on Perk and Powe on one play. Rondo was the only one using any of the lanes created thanks to Davis' "supposed" ability to space the floor. Davis also hogged the ball on offense and was as guilty as anyone for the lack of ball movement. How many times did he hold onto the ball in the post, draw a double and then make his move. Not smart for an undersized and overweight power forward. He drives me nuts...

[wigglestrue]

Yeah, well, Baby can't rebound or defend within 5 feet and defense trumps offense. Pick and roll defense was horrible yesterday and the finger points squarely at Davis. I'm generally a Doc supporter, but his blind support of Davis because he "spread the floor" is getting under my skin. They needed rebounding, Powe gave them rebounding, and Doc yanked him in the fourth as soon as Bulls packed it in on Perk and Powe on one play. Rondo was the only one using any of the lanes created thanks to Davis' "supposed" ability to space the floor. Davis also hogged the ball on offense and was as guilty as anyone for the lack of ball movement. How many times did he hold onto the ball in the post, draw a double and then make his move. Not smart for an undersized and overweight power forward. He drives me nuts...

Quoted for truth.

[Hemingway]

I think Baby's game on the offencive end is more like KGs in that he can ht the outside shot. This is important because Pierce and Rondo are in there. Powe is better served when we can go into him in the paint, the second unit is idea for this because someof our stars are resting and he typically will be up against a lesser defender.

[return2glory]

BBD and Perkins are a better fit together because BBD has a outside game. However, I would like to see Powe get more minutes. BBD played 40 minutes, while Powe only played 16. Perkins played 42.

I would like to see BBD play 34 minutes, Perkins to play 35, and Powe about 30 minutes a game. This way the minutes lind of even out and the players are fresher. I felt that Doc overlayed Perkins and BBD. They seems tired. Perkins is not used to playing more than 35 minutes per game.

[Prue]

I'm on board with the start Powe movement... we need rebounding right now.

[billfromBoston]

BBD and Perkins are a better fit together because BBD has a outside game. However, I would like to see Powe get more minutes. BBD played 40 minutes, while Powe only played 16. Perkins played 42.

I would like to see BBD play 34 minutes, Perkins to play 35, and Powe about 30 minutes a game. This way the minutes lind of even out and the players are fresher. I felt that Doc overlayed Perkins and BBD. They seems tired. Perkins is not used to playing more than 35 minutes per game.

That's the answer right there...the minutes should have been more evenly distributed with Davis/Powe playing more together in order to keep the 3 best bigs on the court the most...Powe was better than his 16 mins and Davis was not good enough to warrent 40 mins...

I think Doc got cold feet because Rondo was the only one doing anything and when they tried to play Powe/Perk at the same time neither wanted to pull the trigger on the kick-out jumper...this can be addressed via film session and also via better shooting from Pierce/Allen/House...

[perfectblack999]

is anyone else tired of watching BBD getting his sh*t swatted on every layup


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