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Post#141 » by Rafael122 » Sat Apr 18, 2009 8:23 pm

Gilbert0Arenas wrote:Saw this coming from a mile away and people told me I was being a negative nancy.

No toughness + too much finesse = recipe for disaster in the playoffs. Great job GMGM. I laugh at all those who seriously believe this is one of the most talented teams in the league. Absolutely pitful roster. Look at all people acquired at the deadline and what they are doing for their teams.


This team is stacked bro, and it also helps to have the best player in hockey on your team.

I just came back from the Nats game, and you should have seen the faces of the Caps fans that were on Metro. It looked like their cat had just died.
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Post#142 » by WizBiz » Sat Apr 18, 2009 9:24 pm

Gilbert0Arenas wrote:Saw this coming from a mile away and people told me I was being a negative nancy.

No toughness + too much finesse = recipe for disaster in the playoffs. Great job GMGM. I laugh at all those who seriously believe this is one of the most talented teams in the league. Absolutely pitful roster. Look at all people acquired at the deadline and what they are doing for their teams.

Whoa there, let's not overreact. I do believe that the Caps are one of the most talented teams in the league, but as we all know, it takes more than just talent to win games. They are a young team with very little playoff experience and no true number one goalie going up against a team that has been there the past 4 years. This might not be their year, but some day they'll pull it together.
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Post#143 » by long suffrin' boulez fan » Sat Apr 18, 2009 9:29 pm

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Gilbert0Arenas wrote:Saw this coming from a mile away and people told me I was being a negative nancy.

No toughness + too much finesse = recipe for disaster in the playoffs. Great job GMGM. I laugh at all those who seriously believe this is one of the most talented teams in the league. Absolutely pitful roster. Look at all people acquired at the deadline and what they are doing for their teams.

Whoa there, let's not overreact. I do believe that the Caps are one of the most talented teams in the league, but as we all know, it takes more than just talent to win games. They are a young team with very little playoff experience and no true number one goalie going up against a team that has been there the past 4 years. This might not be their year, but some day they'll pull it together.


I agree. This is a really talented team that is a little young. The only thing I fault the front office for is letting Huet get away and possibly not bringing in another goalie at the deadline.

I still think we are going to win this series.
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Post#144 » by Wizards2Lottery » Sat Apr 18, 2009 10:03 pm

This team is not stacked and I hate to put it this way, but if you guys really believe that then you are completely clueless about how hockey works. There's Ovechkin, Green, Varlamov, Laich Alzner and Backstrom. Backstrom relies totally on Ovechkin to be effective. Green thrives on the PP (which cracks down in the playoffs). Everybody else on this team is vastly overrated, with Semin leading the pack.

This team is not young either. They went to the playoffs last year and had seven games worth of experience. It doesn't take rocket science to figure out that you need to grow a pair and play a physical game and attack the goalies crease in the playoffs.

The blue line is absolute crap. Jeff Schultz is horrible, Jurcina is horrible, Poti is horrible, Pothier is 5-6 guy at best. Erskine on a good team would be a #4. Besides Green and Erskine, none of these guys would crack the top 4 or even top 6 of majority of the playoff teams.

There one gritty tough player willing to attack the net on the top 3 lines: Laich. Kozlov has never been a playoff player in his career. Semin is quite possibly the most boneheaded player in the league. Fedorov is done. Nylander never should have been signed. Flash and Fehr are total busts.

Finesse and playing in a crap division makes you win games in the regular season. Won't do anything in the playoffs. This team is the new Ottawa Senators. Except the Sens actually made the finals which doesn't seem anywhere in the future for this team unless drastic changes are made on the blue line and the top two lines like finding a new 2nd line center, finding a new first line partner for Ovie and Backstrom and finding gritty players who screen the goalies and play tough.

long suffrin' boulez fan wrote:I agree. This is a really talented team that is a little young. The only thing I fault the front office for is letting Huet get away and possibly not bringing in another goalie at the deadline.

I still think we are going to win this series.


The great Huet is sitting on the bench right now watching a goalie who was waived earlier in the season start in net. Huet is as good as Theodore and goal tending is far from the problem. Not resigning Huet also had long term ramificiations. Bringing him back meant less money to resign Alzner, Backstrom and Semin.

The Capitals have perennially stunk in the playoffs because of McPhee's flawed philosophy of building a team. HIs playoff record speaks for itself and his teams penchant for choking isn't a new thing.
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Post#145 » by Wizards2Lottery » Sat Apr 18, 2009 10:06 pm

and yes this team can still win this series if Varlamov continues to be a wall.
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Post#146 » by Scabs304 » Sun Apr 19, 2009 1:12 am

Caps will win this series. Yes there blue line is some crap, but even thinking that thier frontline isn't the best in the league is just complete pessimism. Stats prove it and if they can just grow a pair as you say it form here out they will pose there will and win the series.
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Post#147 » by Rafael122 » Sun Apr 19, 2009 1:26 am

Eh, honestly I think its over. This is going to be a long summer.
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Post#148 » by mohammed10 » Sun Apr 19, 2009 2:56 am

Rafael122 wrote:Eh, honestly I think its over. This is going to be a long summer.


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Post#149 » by Wizards2Lottery » Sun Apr 19, 2009 2:58 am

Scabs304 wrote:Caps will win this series. Yes there blue line is some crap, but even thinking that thier frontline isn't the best in the league is just complete pessimism. Stats prove it and if they can just grow a pair as you say it form here out they will pose there will and win the series.


The frontline is good for the regular season but not playoffs. We need to find a 2nd and 3rd line center. We need a player to replace Kozlov on the first line.

Ovechkin-Backstrom-???
Semin-???-Laich
Fehr***-???-Flash
Steckel-Gordon-Bradley

Could be replaced by Clark if the franchise gives up on the Fehr project.

Osala is the only forward in the teams farm system that projects to be a player in the NHL. Maybe even Aucoin, he was impressive in his few games up here.
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Post#150 » by tkunit » Sun Apr 19, 2009 2:03 pm

rangers goalie was out of his mind early in that game. He got into the caps heads and it was down hill from there. Not looking good
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Post#151 » by Tyrone Messby » Sun Apr 19, 2009 7:35 pm

Gilbert0Arenas wrote:This team is not stacked and I hate to put it this way, but if you guys really believe that then you are completely clueless about how hockey works. There's Ovechkin, Green, Varlamov, Laich Alzner and Backstrom. Backstrom relies totally on Ovechkin to be effective. Green thrives on the PP (which cracks down in the playoffs). Everybody else on this team is vastly overrated, with Semin leading the pack.

This team is not young either. They went to the playoffs last year and had seven games worth of experience. It doesn't take rocket science to figure out that you need to grow a pair and play a physical game and attack the goalies crease in the playoffs.

The blue line is absolute crap. Jeff Schultz is horrible, Jurcina is horrible, Poti is horrible, Pothier is 5-6 guy at best. Erskine on a good team would be a #4. Besides Green and Erskine, none of these guys would crack the top 4 or even top 6 of majority of the playoff teams.

There one gritty tough player willing to attack the net on the top 3 lines: Laich. Kozlov has never been a playoff player in his career. Semin is quite possibly the most boneheaded player in the league. Fedorov is done. Nylander never should have been signed. Flash and Fehr are total busts.

Finesse and playing in a crap division makes you win games in the regular season. Won't do anything in the playoffs. This team is the new Ottawa Senators. Except the Sens actually made the finals which doesn't seem anywhere in the future for this team unless drastic changes are made on the blue line and the top two lines like finding a new 2nd line center, finding a new first line partner for Ovie and Backstrom and finding gritty players who screen the goalies and play tough.

long suffrin' boulez fan wrote:I agree. This is a really talented team that is a little young. The only thing I fault the front office for is letting Huet get away and possibly not bringing in another goalie at the deadline.

I still think we are going to win this series.


The great Huet is sitting on the bench right now watching a goalie who was waived earlier in the season start in net. Huet is as good as Theodore and goal tending is far from the problem. Not resigning Huet also had long term ramificiations. Bringing him back meant less money to resign Alzner, Backstrom and Semin.

The Capitals have perennially stunk in the playoffs because of McPhee's flawed philosophy of building a team. HIs playoff record speaks for itself and his teams penchant for choking isn't a new thing.


Man, where do I even start with this nonsense.

1. This team does have talent on offense. They have 3 first line talents in Ovechkin, Backstrom, and Semin. Sem can be frustrating at times, but he was also our best player last year in the playoffs, if you don't remember. Maybe you gave up on them after the 3-1 deficit so you didn't seem him play outstanding hockey. :roll: Nylander and Kozlov are deadweight, I agree. McPhee needs to find a way to move Nylander over the offseason. Fedorov is growing old, but if he is willing to come back on a much cheaper contract, I wouldn't mind McPhee signing him again.

2. Flash and Fehr are busts? After two seasons? Flash improved this year in case you didn't notice, and Fehr is just now getting legit playing time. Hardly busts so far.

3. The defense is mediocre. Poti is not a terrible defenseman though, he has been hobbled my injuries lately and it has really made a difference in his play. Erskine would not be a top 4 dman on a contender. He is perfect for the 5-6 role. Schultz is terrible, I agree. Jurcina is only effective when paired with Alzner. Alzner, Carlson, and Green are the future on D. I pray Alzner and Carlson work out. Alzner looks to be on his way.

4. Theodore is terrible but Varlamov looks like he could potentially be the franchise goaltender for this team for years to come. Hopefully he'll get to play for the rest of the series.

5. If this team is indeed swept in the first round or hell..even loses the first round, McPhee SHOULD be fired. This team does lack grit and they need more players like Laich. The skill is already there on the team. I still don't Flash and Fehr are already busts though.


In conclusion, the team needs more experience and talent on D, and more grit, net-crashing forwards. But both of those problems are relatively fixable in the coming years. This team has a very great young nucleus, that should only get better. I haven't lost hope on Green yet, he just needs to settle his game down a bit. There is still hope for this series, and I personally think they come back to Verizon with a 2-2 tie in the series.
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Post#152 » by Wizards2Lottery » Sun Apr 19, 2009 9:41 pm

Flash maybe not but Fehr is indeed a bust. Dude has had his chances and hes stunk it up besides a one week period of steady play. All you have to do is look who was drafted around him. Zach Parise, Mike Richards, Ryan Getzlaf.... ugghhhh. Flash needs to prove that the beginning of this season wasn't a fluke. He's sucked for a good portion after the All Star break. This team needs to retool the offense big time. Two new centers, new wing player for Ovechkin and Backstrom and give up on the Fehr project and start the Osala one.

I don't agree with your defense assessment one bit. The group is not mediocre. It flat out sucks. Alzner will make it better but we still need more. Outright replace Jurcina, Schultz and Pothier. All three have no business on this roster. Pothier was useful when Green was still an unkown. Carlson is going to be in Hershey next year so I doubt he has much of an impact. Probably in the same way as Alzner this year. Sporadic call ups to prevent his rookie year status to kick in...

The way this team has laid an egg so far and if it continues to do so, Ted has to fire McPhee. The guy has had an abysmal playoff record for a reason. He still believes finesse wins over toughness which is really surprising because he wasn't that type of a player in his days.
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Post#153 » by fishercob » Mon Apr 20, 2009 1:06 pm

While I don't approach the situation with quite the passion/anger that G0A does, I think he's basically right.

This team is in desperate need of some playoff nastiness, a la Dale Hunter, Esa Tikannen, Sean Avery, Darren McCarty, etc. The cross-check penalty that Semin took was inexcusable. But I could live with a goaltender interference minor or two if someone would actually try to create some havoc in front of the net.

By the same token, Erskine is our only defenseman who will police this stuff in front of our net, and he's not that good (he's played well in the series though). Green will mix it up, but that's not his role -- or it shouldn't be. You can't expect the guy to be Paul Coffey and Scott Stevens.

I like Fehr and Flash, but agree that they're disappointing so far. They may not be busts, but looking at the other names G0A put up there, I mean jeez. Those guys are studs.

I hate Nylander. I think Schultz is completely useless. I don't understand why Pothier got the call up instead of Alzner.

I'm still hopeful that the Caps end up winning this thing, but I agree with G0A that they need some serious re-tooling to be playoff ready. Neither Kozlov nor Feds will be brought back at close to their current numbers. Hopefully GMGM finds someone to take Nylander. We're going to need at least one center (Aucoin may have earned a shot between Fehr and Flash), and a legit power forward, as well as at least one major upgrade on D.

It's important to remember though, that this regular season was way ahead of schedule. Perhaps it created some false hope . Either way, the Caps are on the right path and I think they'll get there.
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Post#154 » by Wizards2Lottery » Mon Apr 20, 2009 3:43 pm

The Capitals will definitely get there. I'm willing to wager it's going to be without McPhee. Dude simply doesn't get it. This team has enough firepower and all he looks to add is more. His scouting of defenseman is pathetic. Even a blind squirrel finds a nut... in this case McPhee found Green. He missed big time on Finley, Pokulok, Schultz and maybe even Godfrey.
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Post#155 » by Tyrone Messby » Mon Apr 20, 2009 10:34 pm

I still argue that the defense is mediocre, thanks to Green super-star like status in the regular season. He needs to show up on the postseason level however. Anyway, I think Poti and Green are both legitimate blueliners. Green is set for 1st line duty while Poti is set for 2nd line duty (when healthy). The rest of the bunch are no better than 3rd pair duty. I have no problem with a Poth-Jurcina 3rd line pairing. Schultz is just downright terrible. I pray this team can package him and get rid of him soon. I too think Carlson has alot more grooming to do, but I expect him to be very valuable to this team in a few years. The great thing about this team is that the majority of the talent is YOUNG. They need a gritty-second line center to muck it up and score gritty goals. Backstrom is a worthy 1st line center, but he needs to add a little bit more of a scoring touch to be considered top class. He is young, hopefully it will come in time. I think our 3rd and 4th lines could use a little bit more of a mean streak there, but I like some of the players already in position, such as Gordon, Laich, and Steckel. I'm hoping Flash can eventually make the jump to a legitimate second liner. I haven't given up hope on Fehr, but yes it is depressing to think we could have had Getzlaf. I still remember being pissed that NJ took Parise right before us. Would've been an awesome additon.

Anyway, where I do agree with you whole-heartedly is that GMGM is a LOSER. We have yet to win a playoff series since 98, PATHETIC. I still have confidence in this team to bring this back to Verizon 2-2. I can't wait to see how Varlamov plays for the rest of the series.

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Post#156 » by fishercob » Mon Apr 20, 2009 11:21 pm

YEAH!
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Post#157 » by ZonkertheBrainless » Mon Apr 20, 2009 11:23 pm

SWEET!!!!

Now my throat is going to be totally sore tomorrow.
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Post#158 » by ZonkertheBrainless » Mon Apr 20, 2009 11:25 pm

Brashear's back! game over.
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Post#159 » by ZonkertheBrainless » Mon Apr 20, 2009 11:33 pm

YYYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!

man, my neighbors are gonna call the cops now i bet
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Post#160 » by WizBiz » Mon Apr 20, 2009 11:35 pm

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